NBA Combine: Wieskamp's Draft Stock Rising, Dominates in Scrimmages. Luka SITS OUT w/ Groin Injury. Joe had 42" (Luka 29.5") Max Vertical Jump
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Did you ever think he might be better than you give him credit for? Oh I forgot, you’re the NBA expert and screw the fact that actual NBA people are praising him. Sometimes you bet on yourself to keep improving. Most would think being a mid round 1st rounder rather than an early 2nd rounder is better.
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Not interesting, depressing. Good luck Joe, you are about to prove all the NBA talent evaluators around here wrong
The vertical is measured from a rocker type step, not standing or running. It also does not include wingspan. Otherwise it would say, combination vertical and wingspan. Much to the contrary of the "experts" posting here. Good luck to Joe - I hope a 1st round slot is in his future.
I like how when people have a less-than-optimistic opinion of the Hawkeyes, they sarcastically get called ”experts” and “talent evaluators” like we aren’t all cheering for the players to have success at Iowa and beyond. Newsflash: this place is for sharing opinions, and everybody is allowed to have one even if it doesn’t align with yours.
Joe was borderline going undrafted until his performance at the combine, so all of you acting like you knew that he would raise his stock to be talked about as a borderline first round pick are talking out of your asses
Joe was borderline going undrafted until his performance at the combine, so all of you acting like you knew that he would raise his stock to be talked about as a borderline first round pick are talking out of your asses
The irony of course is that this combine performance is what convinced Joe to stay in so his thought process is exactly in line with what I said.
He accomplished exactly what he wanted to get out of this combine.
You dont hit a home run and then ask for a do over.
Maybe it doesn't take an expert to figure out the obvious?
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Actually, the reason many of those who are sarcastically labeled as "experts" is because they often do not understand the game (the big picture of it all) and double down on personal bias/opinion. See all the complaining about Fran when 99% have no clue what has to go into any particular decision that is made. And while I do not believe this is any way near the majority, there are people on here that are less than thrilled about JW because they spent three years complaining he wasn't all that he was supposed to be coming out of high school. He's not good enough so why is he wasting his time getting evaluated? I'm glad he's doing well and I hope it's been enough to get him into the 1st round or at least the top of the 2nd.
He's not going to be drafted simply because he did well in this 2 week period. The NBA isn't that short sighted. It will always be a combination of skill set, production against similar prospects, and projection. And as I have previously said, I don't think it's the worst plan to come back and build upon what you have started. You don't think he can continue to improve and think it's a flash in the pan type situation, I think he could and move up higher in the draft. Difference of opinion and if I wanted an expert opinion, I'll look elsewhere.
It’s pretty funny that you’re sarcastically calling people experts because they “don’t understand the game.” That must make you the “expert” then, huh?
I only find the remark irritating because people (usually the same couple) drop the condescending “expert” line on me all the time, even though I have never once claimed to have superior knowledge to anybody else. I post what I observe, and justify my opinions with statistics or examples, and am always open to being proven wrong or changing my mind
I think he took the opinions of these experts and stayed in the draft. I am Glad he didn’t listen to some turds like you
I disagree with you when it comes to Tyler Cook because many on here were not cheering his decision to leave early. There were a lot of people who thought he was dumb leaving early & thought there was no way he would play a game in the NBA. The comments were very negative and were more on how how dumb the decision was as opposed to wishing him success. I simply chuckle now because boy were these doubters wrong.
There also are many on here who make comments here and on the football board that they "watched the player's tape," where they act like experts when it comes to talent evaluation. Again, I just chuckle because the film they have watched only shows the good and not the bad.
You are correct in one aspect. Everyone is allowed an opinion, even when those with an an opinion have no idea what they are talking about or are simply just talking out of their ass.
I definitely think there was bias against Tyler Cook and his decision to leave early because he had a lot of low lights (turning the ball over too much) to go with his highlights.
And a lot of people downplayed (or did not believe) Joe's comments when he said that he had options & almost left after his sophomore year.
You can feel that the decision to go pro is dumb because your opinion is that a player isn’t ready while simultaneously hoping they do well in the NBA. I suspect that most people who posted negatively surrounding Tyler’s departure were just bitter that he was opting to leave Iowa early instead of coming back for his fourth year. There were similar comments from people who really didn’t want to see Joe go, and there will probably be similar comments when Keegan declares after next year
I also bet that if you asked those same people for their thoughts on TC now, they would tell you that they are happy he is finding success in the league and wish him the best. They would be either be silly not to considering his success is Iowa’s success, or they wouldn’t really be Iowa fans
Brandon is a Men's basketball beat writer. This is a good story/analysis.
I have seen others write about Joe's lack of handle. Note that Brandon writes that Joe's "leaping ability isn’t totally functional yet, as his lack of a handle doesn’t allow him to get downhill and use it."
What he says about Joe:
After a strong showing at the NBA Combine, Wieskamp is now getting some of that attention. His pure shot was on display in the shooting drills, hitting from all over the court. In the scrimmages, Wieskamp showed up in the second game. He caught fire from deep, draining six of seven threes, and used his size to snag 10 rebounds.
Another interesting data point was Wieskamp’s 42-inch max vertical jump, proving he’s more athletic than advertised. The leaping ability isn’t totally functional yet, as his lack of a handle doesn’t allow him to get downhill and use it. But when he does get to the paint, Wieskamp’s jumping helps him finish.
Between the second scrimmage, the shooting drills, and the measurements, the Iowa native certainly helped himself this week and is now in position to be selected in the second round of the draft.
The FULL Story:
I have seen others write about Joe's lack of handle. Note that Brandon writes that Joe's "leaping ability isn’t totally functional yet, as his lack of a handle doesn’t allow him to get downhill and use it."
What he says about Joe:
Joe Wieskamp (finally) gets some national love
Having seen Wieskamp live numerous times over the past few years, I was always confused why he wasn’t seen as a legitimate NBA prospect. He measured in at a little taller than 6’7 in shoes and shot 46% from three last season on good volume, yet the masses hadn’t come around.After a strong showing at the NBA Combine, Wieskamp is now getting some of that attention. His pure shot was on display in the shooting drills, hitting from all over the court. In the scrimmages, Wieskamp showed up in the second game. He caught fire from deep, draining six of seven threes, and used his size to snag 10 rebounds.
Another interesting data point was Wieskamp’s 42-inch max vertical jump, proving he’s more athletic than advertised. The leaping ability isn’t totally functional yet, as his lack of a handle doesn’t allow him to get downhill and use it. But when he does get to the paint, Wieskamp’s jumping helps him finish.
Between the second scrimmage, the shooting drills, and the measurements, the Iowa native certainly helped himself this week and is now in position to be selected in the second round of the draft.
The FULL Story:
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No recent mock drafts have Wieskamp anywhere near the 1st round. Not Garza either
Yeah, I think Weezy has moved up but not out of the 2nd round
Showing well at the combine is very likely the difference between getting drafted or not for second round guys.
Hence the reason Joe is now projected to be drafted and was not prior.
Its not about being short sighted. Its about differentiating between a multitude of options.
I don't think you take the risk of coming back to an unknown situation. Sure it could pay off. But ...bird in the hand. Obviously Joe agrees.
When you make statements about what my opinion is when I have not said anything to that effect...thats called a straw man. That's the how an idiot argues so my suggestion would be to stop that.
I don't give a fvck what you want or who you want to call an expert or not. Thats irrelevant to me.
