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Nebby vs. PSU

Penn state just got hosed. Multiple fouls on last shot. Officials really suck if it's a foul in the first 10 seconds it a foul in the last 10.
 
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If Nebby loses, Iowa loses a top 100 win and gains a 100+ loss.. GO Nebraska!!
 
Penn state just got hosed. Multiple fouls on last shot. Officials really suck if it's a foul in the first 10 seconds it a foul in the last 10.

LOL. No. It sounds nice, but it's not true. The closer the clock gets to zero (game clock or the shot clock) the smaller the margin is for error, so as an official you eliminate any marginal fouls that you possibly may get earlier in the game and do your best to only get 100% clear fouls. That's the actual philosophy, you don't have to agree with it, but that's the way games are officiated.

I watched the replay on the drive to the hoop, and, objectively, I was okay with no call.
 
LOL. No. It sounds nice, but it's not true. The closer the clock gets to zero (game clock or the shot clock) the smaller the margin is for error, so as an official you eliminate any marginal fouls that you possibly may get earlier in the game and do your best to only get 100% clear fouls. That's the actual philosophy, you don't have to agree with it, but that's the way games are officiated.

I watched the replay on the drive to the hoop, and, objectively, I was okay with no call.
So there are marginal fouls now? No, a foul is a foul no matter when it happens. Unfortunately what you said is what is wrong with the game.
 
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LOL. No. It sounds nice, but it's not true. The closer the clock gets to zero (game clock or the shot clock) the smaller the margin is for error, so as an official you eliminate any marginal fouls that you possibly may get earlier in the game and do your best to only get 100% clear fouls. That's the actual philosophy, you don't have to agree with it, but that's the way games are officiated.

I watched the replay on the drive to the hoop, and, objectively, I was okay with no call.
Agree, it looked like a foul based on the rule book, but live I would have a hard time calling some body contact on that drive.

Tyler Cook got mauled at the end of the Indiana game (IIRC), so it's not like this is a new development.
 
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So there are marginal fouls now? No, a foul is a foul no matter when it happens. Unfortunately what you said is what is wrong with the game.

So you've never heard the term? If you aren't familiar with the term, then I think you probably should talk to someone who officiates at HS level or higher before you begin your evaluation of division 1 basketball officiating.

There are three types of contact in basketball - incidental, marginal, and fouls. The marginal contact is where a crew establishes how it will call the game. It's the toughest part of the game to referee consistently. Ideally, laying off of marginal plays is a good idea (it's easy to get fooled with all the head bobbing dribblers do now) but it's not always easy to do if play moves in a way that you quickly get stacked on a play that a moment earlier you had a great look-through of, or your eyes are slow getting to a secondary defender, for examples. If you are consistent in your calls in the margins, your crew will have a good night.
 
Agree, it looked like a foul based on the rule book, but live I would have a hard time calling some body contact on that drive.

Tyler Cook got mauled at the end of the Indiana game (IIRC), so it's not like this is a new development.

If it had been Nebraska on the other end, I don't think I want that called a foul either. Players know that in end of shot clock and end of game situations, you have to be strong EVERYWHERE on the court because officials will not blow on a play unless its obvious illegal contact. Some people don't like this, but the other side of the coin is that your going to get whistles on plays that looked like fouls but actually weren't illegal contact, and no one wants that.

I'd much rather let marginal contact go than penalize it. Obviously, there are times fouls are flat out missed. Not making excuses for that. I didn't see the play your reference so it's hard for me to comment on it. I will say that at the end of game there are a lot of plays where defenders are pressuring the ball and officials are making sure they see a foul before they blow. Little bumps and things like that aren't going to get whistles because we understand the weight of our whistles - if you ask a coach or player away from the game if they want those called fouls, almost all of them would say no. They want to play through some of that stuff at the end. We want them to play through it too, and we want to make sure that we don't miss obvious fouls.
 
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