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[EZ2BJZ]

Just like when Adrian Clayborn committed assault. He was Iowa's best player, so naturally he played an entire following season and bowl game before ever facing any sort of punishment.

Just like if one of your players is involved in a rape....just send the team to the scene of the crime and "move in" and try to handle the investigation in house.

In fairness to Clayborn, a cabbie called him the "n-word."

To be honest, as far as the bantering about whose "student athletes," or coaches in this case, have the worst rap sheets, I think every one is missing the point. It's so highly ingrained in our culture to promote winning above nearly everything else, that bad behavior is too often excused, rationalized, or minimized. That is not a Nebraska issue. Nor is it an Iowa issue. It is a nationwide issue.

As far as history is concerned, I would add that without history there is no rivalries. However, my great grandmother was born in 1900. So bringing up sports history when she would have been two seems a tad bit on the ridiculous side. But that's just me.

 

[Blackhawk6]

From 1960-1999, you could replace ISU, KSU,KU and Okie State with Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin plenty of wins for Michigan and tOSU to feast on that were guaranteed wins year after year. by the way Missouri had a 0.517 winning percentage to Iowa's 0.479 during that time.

The BIG teams you list won a total of ten BIG championships during the period specified, with each winning at least one. During the same period the "big" 8 clubs listed won a total of ZERO league titles. Iowa's record compared to Missouri's is immaterial; the Hawkeyes were the worst team in America during that time--but only played OSU and Michigan in less than half those seasons. What counts is how regularly and often Missouri was rolled by Nebraska--every single year during that entire period. If a team is that easy to beat, then the numbers you stack up against them are hardly impressive.

 

[HVHusker]

Lots of those "all-time wins" were virtually guaranteed year after year after year against ISU, KU, KSU, Okie State and Missouri. From 1960 thru 2010, Nebraska played a total of 250 games against mostly chump teams from those schools. The Huskers' all-time wins hardly are as bona-fide as the all-time wins of Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan and USC.

Really? Well if we're going to use fuzzy Iowa math we can just eliminate all of Iowa's wins for the first 100 years that weren't against Ohio State, Michigan, or the 20 years when Minnesota was good. The rest of the Big Ten was garbage!

 

[WORTHYWISH]

Raise your hand if you owned a cell phone the last time Nebraska was relevant.

I didn't.

Car Phones were the big thing when Nebraska was relevant.

 

[glathar15]

Car Phones were the big thing when Nebraska was relevant.

Had Henry Ford come out with the model T the last Iowa played in a national championship game?

 

[WORTHYWISH]

Had Henry Ford come out with the model T the last Iowa played in a national championship game?

There have been only 2 NCAA sanctioned national champions and Nebraska isn't one of them.

 

[scarletred]

There have been only 2 NCAA sanctioned national champions and Nebraska isn't one of them.

When you beat the # 2,3,4 teams in the country ( by the way only one team in college football history has done it 1971)it doesn't matter dittly squat about a playoff because they already beat the top 3 teams beneath them..

Would have loved to seen Nebraska and Oklahoma woodshed any Big 10 ten that year.

Some of you younger Hawks have no clue.

 

[RogerKint]

When you beat the # 2,3,4 teams in the country ( by the way only one team in college football history has done it 1971)it doesn't matter dittly squat about a playoff because they already beat the top 3 teams beneath them..

Would have loved to seen Nebraska and Oklahoma woodshed any Big 10 ten that year.

Some of you younger Hawks have no clue.

Keep living in the past. You guys suck now. Little red is heading in the wrong direction. Iowa has 5 top 10 finishes in the past 15 years. What have you done in the past 15 years little red? Nothing, besides lurking on other fans boards, hiding behind your keyboard talking smack.

 

[terrehawk]

Had Henry Ford come out with the model T the last Iowa played in a national championship game?

Exactly. Thanks for making the point. Good job gophers!

 

[WORTHYWISH]

When you beat the # 2,3,4 teams in the country ( by the way only one team in college football history has done it 1971)it doesn't matter dittly squat about a playoff because they already beat the top 3 teams beneath them..

Would have loved to seen Nebraska and Oklahoma woodshed any Big 10 ten that year.

Some of you younger Hawks have no clue.

Wow! That's almost as good as Nebraska beating that high school team in 1902.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

When you beat the # 2,3,4 teams in the country ( by the way only one team in college football history has done it 1971)it doesn't matter dittly squat about a playoff because they already beat the top 3 teams beneath them..

Would have loved to seen Nebraska and Oklahoma woodshed any Big 10 ten that year.

Some of you younger Hawks have no clue.

I think you would agree that 1971 was a much different era in college football. After all, Minnesota won a share of their last national championship 11 years before that season.

Anyone with any working knowledge of college football history knows Nebraska has had national championship caliber teams throughout history.

It's just most of us recognize that the 20th century is over.

 

[jgullicksen]

Interesting that you differentiate between having a problem and being out joy riding drunk. Wouldn't the being out joy riding drunk during camp, getting arrested be a pretty strong sign of a problem? As a recovering alcoholic you know that. There isn't such a thing as joy riding drunk without it being a problem. Employers can do both, kick them to the curb and give them the help they need, they aren't mutually exclusive things. The reality is that at Nebraska if he can still pull kids in he will stay and they will play the 'support card' if he can't pull kids in they will play the 'tough love' card. They have a consistently long track record of doing things that way.

Joy riding to me means you clearly know the mistake and risk you are taking cause you may have just been out having fun.
Having a true problem is knowing you have a problem but thinking you are ok to drive.
It is very hard to explain and I am not trying to make any excuses for him because it was wrong either way. But people with any addiction look at things completely different than people who don't or people who don't think they have a problem.
And the punishment he got was not strict enough in my opinion. He should have got atleast a year.

 

[J_Heater]

Hey he made a pledge and that's good enough for Lincoln. Especially when you can recruit like that. Always helps when the police force are friends of the program and your athletic department really don't care as long as they keep winning. The sad part is they aren't winning and they still protect the guilty. This guy could kill the AD's wife in a drunk driving accident and as long as he has a couple of 4 stars coming in nothing will happen to him.

The whole program needs to be burned to the ground and start over.

But as one tweeter said, maybe he will get 12 DUI's and then he will get suspended for a whole season. Only in Lincoln. LOL

 

[Stanley75]

Big Red was looking to get Jerry Sandusky, but he's all locked in at State Pen.

 

[ChiDoc]

People in this thread aren't kidding about the Nebraska fans and moderators being complete jokes on their board. I was banned for responding to a completely ridiculous troll post with factual information and a deal with it meme. What a bunch of losers, no wonder they are going to keep a slime ball like Keith Williams who clearly deserves to be fired after a ridiculous third DWI. I can see why their board is a complete joke that comes off as a bunch of 12 year old posters.

https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/lindsey-to-osu.144806/

 

[iahawkeyes17]

When you beat the # 2,3,4 teams in the country ( by the way only one team in college football history has done it 1971)it doesn't matter dittly squat about a playoff because they already beat the top 3 teams beneath them..

Would have loved to seen Nebraska and Oklahoma woodshed any Big 10 ten that year.

Some of you younger Hawks have no clue.

Seriously now you are pulling out something from 1971. To tell you how long ago that was Vietnam War was still going on. Nixon was in office but Watergate had not even happened yet. French Connection was topping the box office and 3 Dog Night on top of billboard with a gallon of gas costing $.40.

Yes some of us Hawkeye fans have no clue nor do we care about Husker football back in the 70s and their history. Yes you guys should be proud of how good you were then (past tense) but you are a complete idiot if you think Iowa fans give a crap about your history. Lot of people living in the present and we know why you keep going to the history card but to save you the time no one cares here because your husker history snooze fest has gotten redundant so save your glory day love fest for your husker board. Sorry to burst your bubble...

 

[Crafty Beaver]

The BAC came back at .08. Honestly not sure how that all works, but I believe charges are based on BAC and not what the breath test was.

And I would highly doubt any hospital or 3rd party examiner would falsify a test result.

I read that the BAC came back at .15 (which for 3rd arrest DUI, qualifies you for a felony), but that the prosecutor agreed to lower it to .08, so he would only be charged with a misdemeanor.

Where did you read otherwise?

 

[hatefulgreat]

I read that the BAC came back at .15 (which for 3rd arrest DUI, qualifies you for a felony), but that the prosecutor agreed to lower it to .08, so he would only be charged with a misdemeanor.

Where did you read otherwise?

Just as a means of clarification on the manner in which DUI/OWI work in most states: when it comes to alcohol and the breathalyzer, there is a margin of error of approximately plus or minus 0.03 with a breathalyzer and it is routine for any citizen who is close to that line and retains an attorney that it will be dropped to the misdemeanor. If the prosecutor goes with the higher count any defense attorney worth his salt can successfully argue the margin of error and if the prosecutor loses than the defendant cannot be charged with the lesser offense. Until we as, a country, allow lawmakers to take drunk driving as seriously as most countries in Europe we will never solve the drunk driving epidemic.

 

[WORTHYWISH]

 

[beatdahuskers]

Iowa player Nick Wilson was just dismissed from the team for a DUI.

UN coach with this third DUI gets two weeks without pay and misses four Saturdays.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

Iowa player Nick Wilson was just dismissed from the team for a DUI.

UN coach with this third DUI gets two weeks without pay and misses four Saturdays.

Yeah, you would think that coaches who are supposed to be role models for student athletes would be held to higher standards. I'm not trying to get into the pissing match about this being a Nebraska thing, but when you put that in light of the Iowa kid getting dismissed it adds perspective.

 

[Air Force Husker]

And THEN played in the Fiesta Bowl when they rolled Spurrier - so much for consequences.

You forgot the fact he was suspended for majority of the season to include the Colorado game, which was our "toughest" of the year. We didn't need LP to beat Spurrier.

 

[Air Force Husker]

We kick your ass in every sport. We are the bigger school, we are the more prestigious school.

Who's this little brother you're talking about? I mean, even ISU is a bigger school than Nebraska.

EVERY sport?? TO include Women's Volleyball?? ISU is not bigger than us.

 

[Air Force Husker]

I don't care who you are or who you root for ... that's pretty freaking funny.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

EVERY sport?? TO include Women's Volleyball?? ISU is not bigger than us.

ISU is bigger than you, over 36,000 total students. Nebraska, less than 26,000 students. Resorting to womens volleyball,.......? No more to say after that.

Pathetic Nebraska is Pathetic.

 

[Air Force Husker]

ISU is bigger than you, over 36,000 total students. Nebraska, less than 26,000 students. Resorting to womens volleyball,.......? No more to say after that.

Pathetic Nebraska is Pathetic.

You're the one who said "... every sport" not me.

You were talking student enrollment not athletics. Okay .. that would mean Iowa State is bigger than Iowa, right?

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

You forgot the fact he was suspended for majority of the season to include the Colorado game, which was our "toughest" of the year. We didn't need LP to beat Spurrier.

Pure speculation, i.e. Bullshit.

 

[MITCH492]

This thread keeps on giving.

Will it keep its steam throughout the season?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

You're the one who said "... every sport" not me.

You were talking student enrollment not athletics. Okay .. that would mean Iowa State is bigger than Iowa, right?

Unfortunately yes, that has indeed become the reality here.

 

[Air Force Husker]

Pure speculation, i.e. Bullshit.

No, pretty much fact. Florida's "Fun and Gun" offense was beaten up by the 1st half. 62-24 against the #2 team in the Nation that year. Tommie Frazier was the key to that offense. Ahman Green, Clinton Childs, Damon Benning and even 4th string IB Jay Sims would have been more than enough.

 

[Air Force Husker]

Hey did you know in 1995 Murder She Wrote was a popular TV show, doesn't mean it is relevant in 2016

Angela Lansbury would think different ..

 

[cidhawkeye]

No, pretty much fact. Florida's "Fun and Gun" offense was beaten up by the 1st half. 62-24 against the #2 team in the Nation that year. Tommie Frazier was the key to that offense. Ahman Green, Clinton Childs, Damon Benning and even 4th string IB Jay Sims would have been more than enough.

Did LP play in that game?

 

[GBR_Atlanta]

Did LP play in that game?

He did. Was his first game back.

 

[cidhawkeye]

He did. Was his first game back.

So even in a game where he was so clearly not needed that program couldn't make the easiest disciplinary decision. When sending a message would have been so simple they defaulted to taking the low road on discipline. The more things change the more they stay the same. It's the culture that allows it.

 

[GBR_Atlanta]

So even in a game where he was so clearly not needed that program couldn't make the easiest disciplinary decision. When sending a message would have been so simple they defaulted to taking the low road on discipline. The more things change the more they stay the same. It's the culture that allows it.

Yeah man. I wasn't in the meeting room, so I don't know how that conversation went that ended with making LP eligible. That was a sucky situation for sure. I was 15 then, so just old enough to really start understanding how bad some of this stuff was. LP, Riley Washington, Christian Peter. Will be interesting to see how this is covered in the 30 For 30.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Angela Lansbury would think different ..

Awesome, simply awesome....touche my friend....touche

 

[Air Force Husker]

Awesome, simply awesome....touche my friend....touche

Thanks ... sometimes I hit the nail on the head .. other times I hit my thumb.

 

[Air Force Husker]

He did. Was his first game back.

Uhhh .. no. His first game back was home against Iowa State. LP missed 6 games in 1995, ASU, Pacific, Washington State, Missouri and our two toughest games of the year: K-State and Colorado. He then played in mop up duty against Kansas and Oklahoma. He then won the starting Iback position during practice leading up the National Championship game.

Tommie Frazier was the man that year for Nebraska. We didn't need LP to beat Florida. The Defense and Tommie did just fine on their own. Ahman Green, Damon Benning, Clinton Childs and Jay Sims would be more than enough to beat Florida.

 

[GBR_Atlanta]

Uhhh .. no. His first game back was home against Iowa State. LP missed 6 games in 1995, ASU, Pacific, Washington State, Missouri and our two toughest games of the year: K-State and Colorado. He then played in mop up duty against Kansas and Oklahoma. He then won the starting Iback position during practice leading up the National Championship game.

Tommie Frazier was the man that year for Nebraska. We didn't need LP to beat Florida. The Defense and Tommie did just fine on their own. Ahman Green, Damon Benning, Clinton Childs and Jay Sims would be more than enough to beat Florida.

That's right. I had forgotten that. We definitely didn't need him in that game. He was awesome none the less.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Well another case in point in character and discipline. Iowa dismisses player after his first OWI because there were some other minor infractions before that........it was his first OWI but had some other issues before this....mean while west of the Missouri River a grown ass man gets his 3rd OWI and is retained to help mentor young men.....do as I say not as I do doesn't work in my world ladies and gentlemen. Go Hawks!!!!!