ADVERTISEMENT

Never in my Life have I been so Ashamed to be an American

Holy shit. Which HBOTER is this

Michael McCune

Sdrtpesnoou39tact0u0g153u829581ia8l0hiu00a6tlihg9a326lg0t938 ·
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.
Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.
This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democratic support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
 
Holy shit. Which HBOTER is this

Michael McCune

Sdrtpesnoou39tact0u0g153u829581ia8l0hiu00a6tlihg9a326lg0t938 ·
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.
Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.
This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democratic support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.

They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
There's alot of truth in that. I don't agree that they knew what Zelensky was going to do. I think they thought he was going to sign the agreement and then he pull a fast one on them. The rest I pretty much agree with.
 
Diversity for diversity’s sake is constantly pushed.
Right wing propaganda.

There's a value to diversity. Exposure to different sorts of people, cultures and ideas leads to tolerance, cooperation and peace. These are desirable ends. Diversity is a useful means.

Those who oppose diversity are opposing those higher values of tolerance, cooperation and peace.
 
Right wing propaganda.

There's a value to diversity. Exposure to different sorts of people, cultures and ideas leads to tolerance, cooperation and peace. These are desirable ends. Diversity is a useful means.

Those who oppose diversity are opposing those higher values of tolerance, cooperation and peace.
lol, I said the happiest societies, and they’ve measured, are not very diverse
 
Maybe run a better candidate and don’t discount normal people having feelings about weird shit and the border
You're normal? I don't think so. It would be impossible to run a worse candidate than Trump...with the fascist agenda written down FOR YOU. Telling you every anti-democratic thing they planned. And you dismissed it because the Democratic candidate had a weird laugh. So yes...whine all you like. But you enabled what's happening now. You're the embodiment of FAFO. Just own it.
 
No offense my man but living in Clarinda Iowa doesn’t really give you much of a world view.
I’m using Google to look up the happiest nations on earth. I’m not saying diversity is bad, I’m saying let it happen naturally, don’t push it. Europe is going to have big problems with the diversity forced on them by their governments…. And soon.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GolfHacker1
I’m using Google to look up the happiest nations on earth. I’m not saying diversity is bad, I’m saying let it happen naturally, don’t push it. Europe is going to have big problems with the diversity forced on them by their governments…. And soon.
Slavery was natural? Native American reservations were natural? Redlining was natural? Internment camps were natural? If we waited for "natural", we'd still have slaves picking cotton. Listen to the white guy telling minorities it'll all be ok...someday. Just wait and keep your fvcking mouths shut.

You realize you sound like an idiot, right?
 
  • Like
Reactions: littlez
Slavery was natural? Native American reservations were natural? Redlining was natural? Internment camps were natural? If we waited for "natural", we'd still have slaves picking cotton. Listen to the white guy telling minorities it'll all be ok...someday. Just wait and keep your fvcking mouths shut.

You realize you sound like an idiot, right?
What’s natural is merit winning out, effort winning, being smart, being fit.
 
Earlier today I watched the entire 50+ minute press conference. Not just the clip of interest.

Z doesn't talk of peace. He stated over and over that he wants the US to help 'Stop Putin'. He stated over and over he wants the US support and arms. Including specific comments about air defense that he 'needs'. He talked of truce violations. He talked about cause and effect. He talked A LOT. If one saw just the Trump Z, JD 4 minutes at the very end, as I did prior, you'd think this was horrible. I did.

BUT I watched the entire thing. I agree with Trump and JD. Z does not want peace. He wants Russia pushed back and Ukrainian borders restored. Not once did I hear him talk about diplomacy in a real way. In fact, he derided JD's talk of it and tried to counter his points. I also think that Z thought he could take his case to Americans like he has to Europeans and out maneuver Trump. He has a history of trying the same with Biden reports have said. Just not in public.

Z wants all of Europe and the US to fight Russia back to the 2014 borders. I dont blame him but this is not tenable. Sorry it just isnt. We should not go to war with Russia over a small swatch of Ukraine. The current Russian occupied Ukrainian territories are not worth American lives or treasure. Russia has been shown to be weak and defeatable IMO. That is what we have gained. Intel on their capabilities.

What do Pro Ukraine Democrats want? We have 3 choices here.
1) Enter into all-out war with Russia to defeat them and gain back territory.
2) Each side grants concessions and the current front establishes the borders with some reduction of Russian held territory.
3) We don't commit troops and we and Europe continue to fight this war, and it goes like the last 3 have. Burning money and lives at an unacceptable rate and nothing changes. Why would this approach work? Its failed thus far to the tune of over a million lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. The only thing having been saved is most of Ukraine but that happened initially and here we are and here we will be.
 
Right wing propaganda.

There's a value to diversity. Exposure to different sorts of people, cultures and ideas leads to tolerance, cooperation and peace. These are desirable ends. Diversity is a useful means.

Those who oppose diversity are opposing those higher values of tolerance, cooperation and peace.
You can't legislate diversity.
 
Sure…and us normal white folk are just “naturally” smarter and more capable than those darkies. Well…except in sports, right?

Got it.
There are scientifically proven differences between races. I’m talking about ending DEI. Letting merit win. While e we are at it though, if it’s ok to admit blacks tend to be more athletic, is it wrong to say whites aged Asians tend to have higher IQs?
 
  • Like
Reactions: RicoSuave102954
There are scientifically proven differences between races. I’m talking about ending DEI. Letting merit win. While e we are at it though, if it’s ok to admit blacks tend to be more athletic, is it wrong to say whites aged Asians tend to have higher IQs?
Can you share a link for some of these scientifically proven differences between races?
 
In 2003, Phase 1 of the Human Genome Project (HGP) demonstrated that humans populating the earth today are on average 99.9% identical at the DNA level, there is no genetic basis for race, and there is more genetic variation within a race than between them [2]. In addition, genetic isolation, sharp boundaries and distinct evolutionary lineages of ‘races’ do not exist. Thus, the idea of ‘race’ as a genetic category was presumably put to rest. The continued acceptance of ‘race’ as an appropriate biological category would have to be predicated on data indicating there are genes distinct to one ‘race’ that are transcribed in one ‘race’, but not another and human genetic variation is not continuous.

 
The press would not have been invited to oversee…. And hence 99.99% of the problem would have been eliminated!
WHO the phuque invites “the press” into a crucial and private negotiation like this….other than a couple of obtuse ignorant inexperienced puppy dogs?
How phuquin’ dumb are our President and vice-President? Obviously pretty phuquin stupid.
Team Trump believes the presidency is a trashy reality TV show. If you’re not embarrassed, it’s because you lack the intellectual capacity to be embarrassed.
Being embarrassed should be a natural state of being for you I imagine lol
Sick burn, Scrudster.
The United States was built on diversity.
Unfortunately, no it was not.
Normally, I agree with a lot of your stances, but this is next-level stupid. Namely, because there is no biological basis for “race.” It is entirely a made-up, social construct. Therefore, the research done to determine intrinsic levels of intelligence among the melanin spectrum is unequivocally an indictment of socio-economic factors and educational opportunities and NOT due to some inherent flaw in brain structure or capacity linked to melanin. Frankly, if you read your links closely, the researchers acknowledge as much.

Here is a link for further analysis if you are inclined to be better educated on the subject:

 
Did anyone take the 15 minutes to read the university of Delaware paper? Also, both studies show clear differences in ethnic groups, you can deny it’s genetic, I’ll go down that road, but for numerous reasons… they not like us
 
Elon Musk is a clown.

Here’s the thing, Buddy Scruddy, and I have been clear and consistent on my stance from the beginning: I am largely opposed to an open checkbook for wars in Ukraine and Palestine. That has never changed.

However, opposing a free-flow of foreign aid is not the problem. The problem is three-fold:

1. The American president should never be a puppet and bottom bitch for a ruthless dictator.

2. Siding with Russia, North Korea, and China while giving the middle finger to our traditional and closest allies is not strength. It is absolute ****ing idiocy.

3. The goddamn PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES should never turn a White House press meeting into a trashy, reality TV shit show. That is not diplomacy. That is not “negotiating” out of a position of strength. That is not characteristic of some “art of the deal” fancy maneuvering. That is absolutely and unequivocally nothing more than a dumb fat dickwad making an absolute mockery of the presidency while severely damaging the reputation of the United States of America as being a beacon of light for democracy in the free world.

The shit show, train wreck, dumpster fire the world witnessed on Friday is inexcusable and indefensible. Period.
 
Did anyone take the 15 minutes to read the university of Delaware paper? Also, both studies show clear differences in ethnic groups, you can deny it’s genetic, I’ll go down that road, but for numerous reasons… they not like us
Okay, so you’re sticking with your Klan talking points and refuse to learn. Duly noted.

I appreciate the honest admission. I now know not to take you seriously.
 
Did anyone take the 15 minutes to read the university of Delaware paper? Also, both studies show clear differences in ethnic groups, you can deny it’s genetic, I’ll go down that road, but for numerous reasons… they not like us
Are you claiming that skin color/race determines IQ?
 
Elon Musk is a clown.

Here’s the thing, Buddy Scruddy, and I have been clear and consistent on my stance from the beginning: I am largely opposed to an open checkbook for wars in Ukraine and Palestine. That has never changed.

However, opposing a free-flow of foreign aid is not the problem. The problem is three-fold:

1. The American president should never be a puppet and bottom bitch for a ruthless dictator.

2. Siding with Russia, North Korea, and China while giving the middle finger to our traditional and closest allies is not strength. It is absolute ****ing idiocy.

3. The goddamn PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES should never turn a White House press meeting into a trashy, reality TV shit show. That is not diplomacy. That is not “negotiating” out of a position of strength. That is not characteristic of some “art of the deal” fancy maneuvering. That is absolutely and unequivocally nothing more than a dumb fat dickwad making an absolute mockery of the presidency while severely damaging the reputation of the United States of America as being a beacon of light for democracy in the free world.

The shit show, train wreck, dumpster fire the world witnessed on Friday is inexcusable and indefensible. Period.
With respect rags, I don't think you have a clue on anything you just typed up
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT