Newsome caught in another lie...
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Wait, wait, wait. So they had to shut it down for maintenance and you are blaming Democrats or Newsom for that? I mean, I don't know what more you want but the complaining is absolutely ridiculous. Hey, your name isn't Karen by chance, is it?
If that's what you're getting out of my post then it's pretty pointless to carry on the convo.
The point I clearly made is if the reservoir was functional, there would have been 100+ million gallons of water to help fight fires, which contradicts the excuses you keep making.
I acknowledged it was likely just bad luck and a coincidence the reservoir was down currently. We'll see in the coming days how accurate that is.
Because of a wildfire and Santa ana winds. Not because of one guy.
Translation = Menace must defend Newsome at all costs even if it make himself look like a dumbass.
‘They plan for putting out a random house fire, not putting out all the houses that are on fire at once.’
You make it sound like spontaneous combustion. That all of these houses started on fire at the same time. Maybe if there was enough water early that ‘all these houses’ wouldn’t have been on fire at the same time.
That's ok, you can just say you have no idea how fires work in dry, highly combustible environments with hurricane force winds blowing.
No these houses didn't catch fire all at once...but they DID spread very rapidly, faster than the firefighters could get to them.
They did, and could they have been contained better? Definitely. Would more water have helped? Probably, would the water pressure been better if they had been contained better? Fairly certain yes on that. It has been somewhat of a perfect storm with the winds and lack of prevention that occurred. Bio thinks that all of it was unavoidable, that anyone who thinks otherwise just doesn't get it.
If you can honestly answer that all or even a large amount of reasonable precautions were taken and this still happened than we will politely agree to disagree.
You’re truly a sipshit if you believe this! Newsome has run California into the ground. California is one of the few states that has a fire season. He cut budget to clean up the dead brush, knowing it’s a ticking timebomb. Water storage that was unused, budget cuts, etc. Newsome ha run California into the ground while homelessness has doubled under his watch. He’s a piece of shit and you are right there with him trying to defend him. This interaction with a disgruntled bystander who just lost everything shows his true colors as he lied to her face in front of the whole world.
Guys, guys like the retard above are why this country is in trouble. This idiot LOVES government cuts, unless he can blame a disaster created by a traditionally fire prone region + climate change + they have Democratic leadership. Yet here is the same MAGAt moron. This is your brain in a bubble of low IQ Trump Cult diqqsuckers..
I’m not sure these things are all mutually exclusive. I am not saying they’ve done everything perfectly - lord knows they’ve been doing this for long enough they’ve got plans for as much as they can anticipate…but things go wrong too. People screw up, local weather conditions hamper your preferred options, equipment fails.
California has a LONG history of wildfires obviously. I don’t buy that they haven’t taken as many precautions as they could.
From what I understand, the initial fire was caused by arson?
These MAGAt retards don’t know or want us not to know this is record a record HALF YEAR drought for California.
I think I saw that at least one of the fires was arson. Not sure if it was the first.
I don't buy that they did take as many precautions as they could. It is a challenging balance but the optics of cutting the budget, not doing routine under brush removal and having a reservoir not ready to go as the fire season approached seem like tragic missteps. I will not claim to know the details and the how/why but the outside view for some of this is not good. Misplaced values and appropriations. The people trying to blame it all on the historic drought/hurricane winds, etc. are just as wrong as the people blaming it solely on the democratic leadership. Unfortunately the way our society functions there will not be an objective analysis of the things leading up to this issue. It will be politicized on each side instead of just doing the right things.
Disagree. DeSantis does a phenomenal job especially given the frequency of his state's natural disasters.
These faires could have been managed better. Just because the leaders are Democrats does not mean they are immune to criticism. At least to normal people.
Get over it @BioHawk and @Menace Sockeyes. This comes with the territory. They should expect to be second guessed rather than expect not to be.
The difference between MAGAts and people with fully functioning brains is we don’t check a political affiliation of leadership to see if we start posting poutrage immediately.
You're simply upset your party is in leadership rather than Republicans. The story isn't "republicans pounce' the story is horrible leadership and shortsightedness. Lets stick to the topic at hand.
Were Democrat (or in fairness current California leadership) policies complicit in the disaster or not?
You forgot about DeathSantis wearing silly boots and destroying the insurance industry….Also being mean and not answering Kamala’s phone calls.
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Agreed. 100%. Except this debris in this forest served as fuel for fires in an area adjacent to millions of dollars in homes.
But sure, in a vacuum, in nature these fires are considered a normal part of renewal.
Listen, I know what I am talking about here, if a disaster happens and the city could have foreseen consequences of a disaster and didnt do mitigation they will be held at least at fault by the citizenry and at most liable by courts.
I love that I live rent free in your head. You even took the time to go back on my posts and do research.you either have a lot of time on your hands or I have a stalker. If you want my number just ask.
I stand by my statements. I have yet to hear a rebuttal on how Newsome miss management is not to blame?
I do know about governing yes. I am not about to mention why, no.
I also wrote this in a prior post, in this very thread.
"But again, I am not an expert here"
I have already admitted I am not a wildfire expert.
I do know when and how, on the local level, that there are responsibilities and failure to meet those responsibilities have consequences. City governments make policy, pass ordinances and set budgets and priorities. If funds were diverted for some priorities and removed from others, if that goes south, they are left holding that bag. And should they be. And the voters have every right to question why the officials they elected didn't do their jobs.
I also wrote this in a prior post, in this very thread.
"But again, I am not an expert here"
I have already admitted I am not a wildfire expert.
I do know when and how, on the local level, that there are responsibilities and failure to meet those responsibilities have consequences. City governments make policy, pass ordinances and set budgets and priorities. If funds were diverted for some priorities and removed from others, if that goes south, they are left holding that bag. And should they be. And the voters have every right to question why the officials they elected didn't do their jobs.
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