Next 3 months (and whether Oklahoma gets what it wants) could determine Big 12's Future
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I am so glad you are here to represent all the class isu has to offer. Pollard is "so proud" of you.
Clueless, just living by your adage, if one fan says it, must be true. What does Pollard have anything with what you are talking about? Oh, I get it, you hate ISU, so anything you must be true. Keep enjoying your favorite snack there Clueless.
More of that isu class please. Pollard is "so proud". To bad for you cry-clown fanatic exists.
I win again.
The only thing you have ever won is in your mouth. Quite sure you won a lot of those. You were the one that started this, you were the one that called me a dick, remember. I just turned the table on you. I get it, you hate ISU, I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem with your constant whining about any and everything about ISU. Remember, if you say it, that means EVERY Iowa fan thinks that way. The bible according to clueless Jeff.
Why would I hate isu? They are clowns and clowns are to be laughed at and not taken seriously.
No clue why you do, but everyone on this board knows you do. The clown comments are really getting old. Its cyclones, ok, I know, you say they act like clowns so I can call them clowns. What a joke you are, you are on what, your fifth name here. Clueless Jeff, if anyone is a CLOWN, it's you. Its the same with the little brother comments, it was ok for a while, but, now its your Schick, except you are the one always talking about ISU. Hell, you spend more time on cyclone fanatic than an ISU fan, just searching and looking for some slight against Iowa to call us out on. Jeff, we are all adults here, just start acting like one. Still waiting for how Oklahoma joining the big 10 helps Iowa, the money will be great, I am sure, but how about the extra loss every year? Just like when Sanderson joined Penn. State. Hurt ISU, but ended up hurting Iowa even more.
So I was a dick, now a puppet, clueless Jeff you still do not get it. Its hard to look in the mirror sometime, but man, you really need to. You have over 1200 posts in this reincarnation of the new you, almost all ripping ISU. What a sore life you led, its a game, and a university, nothing more. It does not define who I am or how I look at my life. Jeff, I have stated before, I am an ISU football season ticket holder, I am not a graduate of ISU, my children are. Nothing more, nothing less, I go to the games and cheer, and when its over, I play with my grandkids and have a great time of it. Its not about the winning and losing, I would take more wins, its about family and friends. That is the point you keep forgetting, your snide comments and talking about Pollard and ISU, it's just pure hate speech. I get it, you hate ISU, I dislike Iowa, I was rooting for Indiana tonight, but you know the difference, I figured out long ago, its just a game, played between young men. Nothing more, nothing less, its entertainment, nothing more. Unlike you, its not personal. Until you made it that way, now it is between you and I. So keep making your snide comments, if it makes you feel better, to me, I could care less.
Ah, clueless, I see my reasoning has not effected you, good to hear. Go back to your favorite snack in your mouth, and let the rest of us talk sports. I see you keep bringing Pollard into this, are you fantasying about having him next in your mouth?
Still pretending and ranting here?
The OU question has been answered several times. Simply because you are not able or refuse to comprehend that is a YOU problem, no one else's. It is completely understandable how a fan of isu is in complete denial about that. Any team that can only manage five wins over the course of eighty total games in the history of a series needs to find every excuse available to try to justify the failure. Think about it... there is not another team from the big xii/big 8 that has fewer wins against OU than does isu. The 'woe is me' fits you to a tee.
Keep fooling yourself about Iowa wrestling. Just this past November, Iowa hosted over 40,000 fans at a wrestling meet in Iowa City. Do you even realize how many meets over however many seasons isu would need to have to even come close to claiming 40,000 fans of wrestling? The clones epitomize 'hurting' in wrestling. It is both a shame and pathetic all at once.
You are a fool. Simple as that. Now that you have revealed your real self (past banned troll from HR), your motives are evident. You think that all is trending up in the world of cloneville when the rest of the world sees something different. Sanderson left isu for a much better opportunity - including an opportunity to not have to deal with the constraints of a misguided isu athletic administration (btw - Cael, nor any of the other former isu coaches are exchanging holiday greeting cards with Mr. Pollard.)
Carry on your little charade here while you still can. I have a feeling that you have this routine down to a fine art by now.
Another of Pollards minions has graced us with their presence. Who knew that when Pollad said he wanted to take isu to a new level what he meant was he wanted to take douchiness up a level at isu.
His plan seems to be working. More olease.
The idiot twin makes an appearance, ALL is right in the universe of Iowa. We had 40,000 at an outdoor wrestling meet, yada, yada, yade. No 5 you have not answered my question about how Oklahoma in the big 10 helps Iowa.
You are the gone on living in denial about Sanderson at Penn. State having no effect on Iowa. Except for the fact that Iowa had won three National titles before he got there, and Penn. State has won 4 titles in the last 5 years. Iowa zero. But you are right, has not hurt Iowa a bit.
Care to show me a link that states, Sanderson and Pollard are not on good terms, or is this more of I know the truth, when the two people involved disagree?
Iowa was a wrestling power, having 40,000 at a wrestling meet is a great stunt, the NHL as an outside game every year, and draws record crowds. But how many titles has Iowa won since Sanderson joined the conference? That is what matters, stop down playing it, stop trying to bring in his relationship with Pollard. Sanderson being at Penn. State, has hurt Iowa.
Yes, I would expect Iowa to do better against the Sooners than ISU has, you have a better program in football, but it will be just like Nebraska. Iowa is 2-3 against them since they joined the conference, Oklahoma is a better program, but the mighty Hawkeyes will take them down. Keep telling yourself that, as Iowa slides another rung down in the Western Big 10 after they would join.
Its so easy turning this around on you 5, what is next, take another pot shot at ISU, to get us off the fact, Oklahoma in the conference will not help Iowa on the playing field.
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Why oh why do you insist on making yourself seem absolutely without any sense at all?
Yes, I am the "won".... look, it is clear that you are devoid of any concept of marketing/business. Also known is your lack of any analytical or math skills. Now, you complete the trifecta by showing a mastery of butchering the English language. Is there any skill set you do possess that allows/allowed you to be a productive member of society?
Quit worrying so much about Iowa wrestling. The objective remains the same - to be the best. Unlike at isu where wrestling is now mostly pitied rather than revered, Iowa strives everyday to make itself better in order to achieve its goal. In less than one month, the Big Ten Conference meet will be held in Carver Hawkeye Arena. Another month following, the Olympic Trials will take place in the same venue. Pay very close attention to the energy/support/attendance at those events and tell me/us how 'hurt' Iowa wrestling is now.
Again, the football analogies scream "not us (isu).... we can never be successful playing anyone with 'Oklahoma' or 'Nebraska' on their jersey." Just how long has it been since you have been afraid of your own shadow? If any isu fan (or even non-fan, as the case may be) wants to see close up what hinders the potential advancement of isu athletics, he/she need only to read your rants here.
Be so very, very proud. You truly deserve everything that you have.
Been answered several times. OU brings more money to the conference which helps Iowa. Meanwhile isu is left to begging someone to take them. Maybe another power 5 conference is will to pay big bucks to lock up Story County.
Hey now Pollard is "so proud" of his curtain he uses for isu wrestling meets. They attract crowds in the hundreds.
Quit laughing isu grad is serious.
Not even close, and her is why, Texas will never join the SEC, with Texas AM there.
WV has begged to be included in the ACC twice, and were turned down, their academics are just too low for the conference. Why would the SEC take two schools from a state they already have a team in. Remember, the way this makes money is through tv, and getting states that you do not currently have in the conference to join. Texas, would be a great draw for the ACC or Pac 10, not the SEC. You also have the problem with what to do with the Longhorn network, Texas is not going to just give that up.
Clueless Jeff, the big money will be there for a conference, because you are getting the state of Iowa, not just Story County. That is the big 10 model, does not matter whether you like the team or support the team, everyone in the state pays. Why do you think the big 10 took Rutgers, for there great athletic programs? OU will bring money into the conference, but their addition will hurt Iowa on the field.
Clueless, I could care less about the ISU wrestling program, its in shambles, and few care.
Does anyone have a banana for Pollard's minion? He is trying so hard.
So when isu has a program in shambles isu grads give up and don't care.
You at least need to try to maintain some consistency to your argument....
In the first breath, the SEC won't ever take another Texas school/team because it already has A&M (which, btw, is 'head firmly planted in the sand' mentality). Then, isu becomes 'attractive' to someone else because they can provide the whole State of Iowa (and very little else).
This is all conjecture at best. Supposedly meetings within the big xii are or will soon be occurring. Let's see how this latest episode of 'the downtrodden and helpless' big xii soap opera turns out.
If YOU "could care less", then why don't you?
But, YOU are doing a magnificent job of displaying much of what is totally in the ditch regarding isu athletics.
Clueless Jeff, did you have a good night sleep dreaming about your dreamboat Pollard. You really have the hots for him, you mention him almost everyone of your posts. I am sure, you were lying in bed last night just dreaming of the things you could do to him.
Nebraska hasn't hurt Iowa on the field and I suspect with how soft the Texas Ten is OU wouldn't be any different.
Get another banana for Pollard's minion. His use of "won" vs "one" showcases his isu education.
To many fans look at conference expansion as its all about football. Football is pulling the train, brings in the most money, but its only one part of the equation. Iowa fans want the big 12 to implode, thereby hoping ISU will get left out in the cold.
The Big 10 model is what is being used, they stated this conference movement, and they have gotten it right. Here are the three components football tradition, academics and tv money.
Look at each example, Maryland and Rugters, they have little football tradition, but they had the other two, great Academics and new states to broadcast the big 10 network into. If the state has a member school, then BTN gets to charge more to the people in that state. Each school brought 40 million into the conference. Now it did help that each school was drowning in a sea of red ink, and therefore looking to move.
Nebraska was pissed off at the big 12, they checked the box and great football tradition, were an AAU school at the time, and again, in a state where the big 10 was not located. Thereby bring in another 2.9 million viewers. More money for the conference.
Now look at ISU, not for joining the big 10, they already have a school located in the state, so ISU will not bring any new money in. But to the ACC or Pac 12, ISU is an AAU school, research brings in 10 times the money athletics does to a conference. And you have 3 million people in the state that you get to charge more for the pac 12 network. Football will be the last thing that matters, just like it was for Maryland and U of NJ.
The Big 10 model is what is being used, they stated this conference movement, and they have gotten it right. Here are the three components football tradition, academics and tv money.
Look at each example, Maryland and Rugters, they have little football tradition, but they had the other two, great Academics and new states to broadcast the big 10 network into. If the state has a member school, then BTN gets to charge more to the people in that state. Each school brought 40 million into the conference. Now it did help that each school was drowning in a sea of red ink, and therefore looking to move.
Nebraska was pissed off at the big 12, they checked the box and great football tradition, were an AAU school at the time, and again, in a state where the big 10 was not located. Thereby bring in another 2.9 million viewers. More money for the conference.
Now look at ISU, not for joining the big 10, they already have a school located in the state, so ISU will not bring any new money in. But to the ACC or Pac 12, ISU is an AAU school, research brings in 10 times the money athletics does to a conference. And you have 3 million people in the state that you get to charge more for the pac 12 network. Football will be the last thing that matters, just like it was for Maryland and U of NJ.
Clueless is now the grammar police. So nice, still dreaming about what you would do to the mean old Mr. Pollard?
5 everything you post on here is conjecture. Do you think that the SEC will take Texas? The reason AM left the big 12 was to get away from Texas, and now they are going to push the conference into taking them? Go back to talking about wrestling smack, at least you were making some sense there. Or are you going to bring up ISU dropping baseball again, for the 100th time?
isu grad showing off his isu education.
Pollard is awesome, I mean between him and the meerkat, Jameel McKay the whole world knows exactly what it is to be a part of isu's douchy culture.
No wonder Hoiberg and Sanderson left, who would want to be associated with douches.
Replace isu geographically with say, Nebraksa and ask yourself all else being equal (isu maintains its hold on one of the worst major college football programs) if isu would now be a part of the Big Ten?
The answer would be a clear and resounding 'NO'.
It truly is as simple as that when it comes to discussing isu.
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Wait, isu is so awesome that they have had to drop sports? But but I thought God himself Jamie Pollard has doubled the amount of money coming into d-bag U for athletics.
Or, an even better question.... do you think A&M solely wields enough clout within the SEC to prevent that conference from inviting Texas should the other thirteen institutions (or a majority) ever decide to offer the invitation? Please.
(Oh, and as only YOU can do it... go ahead and provide all of the "links" for that one!)
Baseball? Show me where it is that anyone has mentioned baseball. But, now that you mention it - name all of the major college athletic departments that offer as few opportunities for student-athletes as does isu.
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Do you think that the SEC would take Texas as its first choice? They have the Texas market covered with AM, so how is taking Texas going to be bring more money? Oklahoma would bring in more revenue. I do think the SEC would also take Oklahoma St. if it gets them the Sooners.
Its not conjecture at all, ISU is an AAU school, so it checks two of the boxes, new market, good academics. Now it does not check any boxes for the big 10, but does for the AAC and Pac 12. But maybe you are right, I am sure those conferences will be lining up to take K-state, O-state, WV or TT over ISU. Football wise, all four are better get than Iowa State, but academically no conference will take them without their sister school. That is not conjecture, just fact.
This is the first time I have heard that Story County is attractive to any conference. There have been maps put together of fans and that is about all that isu brings to the table.
Have fun selling the SEC or any P5 that isu brings anything to the table as far as a new market that is worth paying for.
