43-36. Raveling beat Northwestern 42-39 once in 1984.
Nice job Cyclones
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Nothing makes a fanbase look weaker than talking crap about a team that beat your team.
Congratulations, you've all managed to sound exactly like the ISU football fans that every year lately claim they would have beaten Iowa if the game were played later in the season. My God, it's pathetic.
What don't you people get? They spanked Iowa. You don't get to talk crap about them until Iowa beats them again. It's called bragging rights; and they were earned on the court
Congratulations, you've all managed to sound exactly like the ISU football fans that every year lately claim they would have beaten Iowa if the game were played later in the season. My God, it's pathetic.
What don't you people get? They spanked Iowa. You don't get to talk crap about them until Iowa beats them again. It's called bragging rights; and they were earned on the court
Thank you for setting the ground rules, kind sir. With that said….**** ISU
So I wonder how this season would have gone for isu if TJ was coaching only the players he had from last year with the incoming freshmen? Like what Fran had to deal with when he took over.
That's impossible, isn't it? Although I did see a middle school girls game where something similar happened. LOL
BTW: How anyone can have ISU in the NCAA tourney and Drake and UNI out is beyond me. Try the eye test, among other criteria.
Was down in Florida over the holidays and there was this obnoxious dude and his wife telling everyone within earshot at the restaurant how great ISU was and how they were 14-1 after going 2-22 the year before. That great team has gone 6-10 since. I've gotta admit it was a hell of a start. 🙂
Lick’s final year at Iowa was 10-22 (4-14), Proehm was 2-21 (0-18) his final year at ISU. Fran inherited Lick’s mess and goes 11-20 (4-14), TJ inherited Proehm’s mess and right now is 20-10 (7-10). Both Fran and TJ have exceeded expectations this season. But the job TJ has done is remarkable given the mess he inherited. So they played a stinker last night, that happens. In case anyone forgot, the top six ranked teams lost last weekend.
I'll always talk sh*t about the Clowns......win or lose to those jokers. I usually won't claim to be better than them if we lose, but it's pretty obvious we have gotten a lot better since that game (& Keegan healthy) and it was a fluke that they shot that well.
Maybe their players were just really inspired by all the grown adults chanting F*ck Bohannon over & over again? Bunch of low-class dorks.
Difference though is Fran had to play with Lick’s mess and TJ didn’t.
I can respect the job TJ has done turning the program around while still finding their horrible losses pretty funny. However, I doubt TJ would have the same sort of success if the transfer rules that existed when Fran came to Iowa still existed today
If they lose @Baylor (which they will) and their first game of the B12T, then they should be relegated to a top seed in the NIT ...no way they deserve an NCAA bid at 20-12/7-11.
Going 4-6 in their final 10, with a first round conf tournament loss ...especially in that conference.
Going 4-6 in their final 10, with a first round conf tournament loss ...especially in that conference.
Iowa St is in. Period. Too many good wins. Their best bet is to fall to a 10 seed so they can avoid that 8/9 pit of hell.
That's sad.
How many of those "good wins" would happen today if the games were played again?
Committee has to start weighting more heavily how a team has played the past month when deciding tournament worthiness.
Iowa = definitely worthy
Iowa State = not so much
ISU benefitted from playing against teams early in the year that had no game plan vs a newly put together group of transfers.
What we've seen in the last several weeks is a team coming back to earth that had an early advantage.
But the humiliating losses at Hilton in the last month kind of dispel the idea of home court advantage. Last nite's blowout loss came against a team with a losing record with nothing to play for. Astounding.
What we've seen in the last several weeks is a team coming back to earth that had an early advantage.
But the humiliating losses at Hilton in the last month kind of dispel the idea of home court advantage. Last nite's blowout loss came against a team with a losing record with nothing to play for. Astounding.
Thank you for clarifying, I was a little confused about the official rules of trash talking. Can you point me in the direction of a rule book?
and TJ had the Portal to help him quickly rebuild. Huge difference.
I don't really think you can debate ISU is playing Worse in March than they were in December.
Boynton is a dick. When Okie St. was placed on probation, he publicly revealed the names of the NCAA Infractions Committee, who immediately started getting threatening messages.
BTW, the assistant coach who was accused of wrongdoing was one of Underwood's assistants when he was at Cowboy U in 2017. Of course, Underwood denied any knowledge of what was occurring in his program (what coach does?) and was not accused of any wrongdoing. He left for Illinois after this season. Again, before Illini fans start squawking, I will repeat, Underwood was not accused of any wrongdoing.
This whole affair just smacks of NCAA ineptitude for a variety of reasons.
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Given a certain segment of our society being still upright, there must be plenty to go around.
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I think it depends on how many choose to use a Covid year and return to isu. Theoretically all or none could return and anywhere in between.
'clones are still a big turnaround from last season. But really interesting when considering a tourney bid. Some of their early season wins that looked impressive, not so much now such as the memphis win when they were considered top 10 (somewhat similar to how Iowa's "big" football wins turned out to be less than spectacular once indy, 'clones and psu all shat themselves).
Lose to baylor in their finale and they will be well below .500 in league play. How does that factor in?
Lose to baylor in their finale and they will be well below .500 in league play. How does that factor in?
Gotta figure ISU will be forced to hit the portal really hard again for next season.
Really makes you appreciate having a solid, established program like Iowa has even though the results aren't always what we crave.
ISU is so lil bro.
Really makes you appreciate having a solid, established program like Iowa has even though the results aren't always what we crave.
ISU is so lil bro.
If you use NCAA NET as the metric, ISU's Q1 wins (and that team's current NET ranking):
Texas Tech (home) - #11
Texas (home) - #15
Iowa (home) - #17
Xavier (away) - #39
Memphis (away) - #41
TCU (away) - #44
Okie State (away) - #50
Creighton (away) - #62
Kansas State (away) - #64
FWIW, their losses will have come against #4, #46, #8, #11, #44, #8, #15, #81, #64 and #50. The loss to #81 WV is their "worst" loss.
Iowa's losses have come against #13, #14, #42, #20, #15, #13, #94 and #32. The loss to #94 PSU is their "worst" loss.
If ISU loses to Baylor, they'll be 7-11 in the Big 12. I seem to recall a number of ACC teams getting NCAA bids with losing records in the conference, but I simply don't recall whether there was ever a P5 team getting an at-large invitation to the NCAA tournament which lost 4 more conference games than it won.
All that written, I don't have a problem with ISU's NCAA resume. What I do have a problem with is ISU fans who crow about their 9 Q1 wins (which is a NCAA NET metric) who also complain that Iowa being ranked above ISU in NCAA NET demonstrates that the NET rankings are flawed. Pro tip: you can't take the good with the bad. If ISU fans want to rely upon NET metrics to tout the number of Q1 wins (By contrast, RPI has ISU at 5-5 in Q1 games), you cannot then criticize the metric when Iowa is currently ranked 25 slots higher. Take the good with the bad.
A cornerstone of the isu 5 Star Culture is that they can and do pick and choose what does and doesn’t count in their own reality. Anything that shows Iowa to be superior in any way will never count or be accepted by isu fans.
Even when the Hawks win it is a never ending stream of excuses as why it didn’t really count. The refs stole it. Lightning struck and kept the clowns from getting a full game in to work out the kinks before playing the Hawks. Turnovers are the only reason and therefore doesn’t really count. We would have won had we played. The game was played at night. The game was played early. The game was in September.
I can go on and on and on but you get the point. Just how isu fans roll.
I also don't have a problem with them being selected.
As for the NET, I continue to think it is very flawed(and that is completely independent of any 'clone fan whining about it). But agree with what you noted; got to take the good with the bad. There will always be arguments about any system put in place for use in selection as there is always a human(s) behind deciding what and how much various factors matter.
Oklahoma was 7-11 in 2019. I think there were a couple of other teams at 7-11 too that year.
Gee, you’re the first to mention THAT in this thread. Yes, I’m being sarcastic.
OK, 9 Q1 wins but only 3 of them against teams that have a pulse currently (and all at home btw).
While ISU is likely in the tournament courtesy of one of the weakest fields in modern history of NCAA BB, the fact that their NET (42), Kenpom (43) and Sagarin (52) are falling like a lead balloon doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their prospects.
