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Obviously Oblivious said:
OK, 9 Q1 wins but only 3 of them against teams that have a pulse currently (and all at home btw).

While ISU is likely in the tournament courtesy of one of the weakest fields in modern history of NCAA BB, the fact that their NET (42), Kenpom (43) and Sagarin (52) are falling like a lead balloon doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their prospects.
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Lunardi currently projects 7 of the teams that comprise ISU’s Q1 wins as NCAA tournament teams.

Don’t get me wrong. It would be epic if ISU would have failed to make the tournament after their start to the season. It would have made for a wonderful talking point with friends of mine who are obsessed with strength of schedule and CHA’s attendance.

That written, there isn’t an objective Iowa fan on this Board who would look at that resume - if it was Iowa’s resume - and conclude “meh, not tournament worthy.”
 
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AuroraHawk said:
Lunardi currently projects 7 of the teams that comprise ISU’s Q1 wins as NCAA tournament teams.

Don’t get me wrong. It would be epic if ISU would have failed to make the tournament after their start to the season. It would have made for a wonderful talking point with friends of mine who are obsessed with strength of schedule and CHA’s attendance.

That written, there isn’t an objective Iowa fan on this Board who would look at that resume - if it was Iowa’s resume - and conclude “meh, not tournament worthy.”
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You shut your logical mouth!
 
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The committee literally does not have the conference records on their team resume sheet for Selection Sunday, why do folks continue to talk about teams' conference records? Both Iowa and ISU are a lock (men and women), UNI and Drake have a fighting chance starting with Arch Madness today. It's been a hell of a year for hoops in our state, let's just enjoy it and see who shows up in a couple weeks.
 
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AuroraHawk said:
All that written, I don't have a problem with ISU's NCAA resume. What I do have a problem with is ISU fans who crow about their 9 Q1 wins (which is a NCAA NET metric) who also complain that Iowa being ranked above ISU in NCAA NET demonstrates that the NET rankings are flawed. Pro tip: you can't take the good with the bad. If ISU fans want to rely upon NET metrics to tout the number of Q1 wins (By contrast, RPI has ISU at 5-5 in Q1 games), you cannot then criticize the metric when Iowa is currently ranked 25 slots higher. Take the good with the bad.
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Here's what casual hoops fans don't understand - The NET is simply a team's analytical projection, it is not the resume. The quadrant wins are what is used for the resume - Houston being a great example at #4 in NET but not even in the top 16 seeds in the committee's most recent release.
 
I get that it's fun to forecast what teams should/should not belong in the NCAAs, and what seed they may get. That's part of what makes March Madness so awesome!

Having said that, none of us really know anything. NET? Conference records? Quad 1 wins? Last 10 games? Who the hell knows what they look at + value?

I would love to just sit in that room + listen. It would be fascinating, and probably irritating as hell. I've often wondered what (if any) politics come into play. Does a Duke (for example) really get preferential treatment? Does TV have an influence? Do they try to create "great matchups", or let the chips fall?

Anyway, I'm just gonna sit back + enjoy - hopefully ISU gets in and does well.
 
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stender72865 said:
I get that it's fun to forecast what teams should/should not belong in the NCAAs, and what seed they may get. That's part of what makes March Madness so awesome!

Having said that, none of us really know anything. NET? Conference records? Quad 1 wins? Last 10 games? Who the hell knows what they look at + value?

I would love to just sit in that room + listen. It would be fascinating, and probably irritating as hell. I've often wondered what (if any) politics come into play. Does a Duke (for example) really get preferential treatment? Does TV have an influence? Do they try to create "great matchups", or let the chips fall?

Anyway, I'm just gonna sit back + enjoy - hopefully ISU gets in and does well.
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ISU could be a tough out but I have a feeling that the second game will be a killer for them. Lack of depth will be their Achilles heel.
 
Still have no idea what to make of them. Flip over to watch their game, see they’re down 24, and then you watch Hunter’s passing pick apart Baylor.

Such a weird team.
 
Iafootballfan said:
Here's what casual hoops fans don't understand - The NET is simply a team's analytical projection, it is not the resume. The quadrant wins are what is used for the resume - Houston being a great example at #4 in NET but not even in the top 16 seeds in the committee's most recent release.
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The committee has released seeds already? I wasn't even aware that they met.🤔
 
eyesofhawk said:
Nothing makes a fanbase look weaker than talking crap about a team that beat your team.

Congratulations, you've all managed to sound exactly like the ISU football fans that every year lately claim they would have beaten Iowa if the game were played later in the season. My God, it's pathetic.

What don't you people get? They spanked Iowa. You don't get to talk crap about them until Iowa beats them again. It's called bragging rights; and they were earned on the court
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When an entire season is judged on the results of one game your point becomes relevant.
 
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Iafootballfan said:
Here's what casual hoops fans don't understand - The NET is simply a team's analytical projection, it is not the resume. The quadrant wins are what is used for the resume - Houston being a great example at #4 in NET but not even in the top 16 seeds in the committee's most recent release.
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You're right - I don't understand. What is Net used for?

What does "analytical projection" mean?
 
I think teams underestimated them early in the season because of their recent putrid history.
 
Iafootballfan said:
The committee literally does not have the conference records on their team resume sheet for Selection Sunday, why do folks continue to talk about teams' conference records?
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Iafootballfan said:
Here's what casual hoops fans don't understand - The NET is simply a team's analytical projection, it is not the resume. The quadrant wins are what is used for the resume - Houston being a great example at #4 in NET but not even in the top 16 seeds in the committee's most recent release.
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I love these "I more know about this stuff than everyone else" posts. Classic.

"Casual hoops fans" don't even know what a NET is or even care.

I thought the NET was literally a summary of a team's quadrant wins. Please explain this to all to us. You think committee members don't know what the teams' conference records are or consider the past 2 months of the season more heavily than the first 2 months? What years did you serve on the Committee? LOL.
 
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MeetTheFerentz said:
I love these "I more know about this stuff than everyone else" posts. Classic.

"Casual hoops fans" don't even know what a NET is or even care.

I thought the NET was literally a summary of a team's quadrant wins. Please explain this to all to us. You think committee members don't know what the teams' conference records are or consider the past 2 months of the season more heavily than the first 2 months? What years did you serve on the Committee? LOL.
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I mean ya, after reading through this thread it’s pretty clear most of you don’t understand the selection process or the NET formula.
 
eyesofhawk said:
Nothing makes a fanbase look weaker than talking crap about a team that beat your team.

Congratulations, you've all managed to sound exactly like the ISU football fans that every year lately claim they would have beaten Iowa if the game were played later in the season. My God, it's pathetic.

What don't you people get? They spanked Iowa. You don't get to talk crap about them until Iowa beats them again. It's called bragging rights; and they were earned on the court
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We can still lol at them all night long


Lolroflmao
 
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