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$5,000,000 to fire Prohm. $5,000,000 to buy out TJ from UNLV, $2,000,000 in salaries for this season and last years assistants means isu is paying $600,000 per win.
Pollard the financial genius. Or is he “the bear”? So hard to keep the delusions of clown fans straight.
Pollard the financial genius. Or is he “the bear”? So hard to keep the delusions of clown fans straight.
Funny stuff ...Clone fans hoping to get a "10" seed in the Big Dance!
Lofty expectations.
Lofty expectations.
Look, ISU has a tournament caliber resume and a boatload of quad 1 wins.
But hear me out...if you had to make a shortlist of teams that MIGHT get snubbed by the committee - teams that should be in but get left out - does anyone have a better case than ISU?
7-11 in their last 18, 41 point and 36 point showings, 0 offensive identity.
I think they probably make it in still, but if the committee decided to leave out ISU - I wouldn't blame them. This team has no chance of making any noise with their putrid offense.
But hear me out...if you had to make a shortlist of teams that MIGHT get snubbed by the committee - teams that should be in but get left out - does anyone have a better case than ISU?
7-11 in their last 18, 41 point and 36 point showings, 0 offensive identity.
I think they probably make it in still, but if the committee decided to leave out ISU - I wouldn't blame them. This team has no chance of making any noise with their putrid offense.
It was a painful game to watch, after the first half I switched over to watch Penn State beat OSU. Tech played amazing defense in that first half and from the stats looked like they continued to do so in the second half. Much quicker, stronger and more physical. With 10 deep and the ability to switch everything, ISU got nothing easy. Now that they are finally healthy they will be a tough out in the tournament if they play defense like they did against. ISU.
Tech will be a 3 or 4 line seed, if they win the Big 12 Tourney 3 and a 4 if they lose.
I would be interested to know in this day and age, how often a team has a game where not one player scores in double figures.
I would have to think it would be a very low %.
I would have to think it would be a very low %.
Probably a 3, if they win the Big 12 tournament they could rise to #2, especially if they beat Kansas a second time.
Quad/smaud..All these metrics make for a nice piece of the puzzle when selecting teams but the old fashion method of selection should trump all of the others. The plain old eye ball test. What teams are playing well now?Teams like Michigan at 17-14 and Indiana have no business being selected. Indiana was listed as a first four out and then wins a game against a very mediocre Michigan team and they are magically back in the tourney? Crazy. ISU had a nice run before Christmas but is a below average team at this point and should be playing in the NIT.
ISU is a classic example of why the NCAA should go back to giving more weight to late season and conference wins vs. early season. ISU was a great December team, but they never improved. They should be picking the best teams at the end of the year, not teams that started hot and faded.
I think too much credit is being given to Texas Tech. They're a team Iowa State split with in the regular season.
Iowa State is just a really bad basketball team right now. No passing on offense and no attack. They made it really easy for Tech to guard them yesterday. The effort didn't seem to be there which is what struck me the most.
Iowa State is just a really bad basketball team right now. No passing on offense and no attack. They made it really easy for Tech to guard them yesterday. The effort didn't seem to be there which is what struck me the most.
Texas Tech was without 2 starters when they played in Ames.
There was a pretty exhaustive study done a few years back on whether a team that was "hot" down the stretch fared better in the NCAA tournament than those that did not. What they found was no difference. Teams are just as likely to play beyond to their seed or beyond if they stumbled at the end of the regular season or if they were red hot.
I would agree that it is hard to envision Iowa State beating anyone with a pulse right now with what they are putting on the floor. But the overall bubble is pretty weak, and one can't just ignore the wins that ISU did pile up in their hot start.
I’m sure you’re right, but I still say give the teams that play better in conference play, in games considered more meaningful, preference. Reward the teams that improve during the season. They deserve it more.
Took Tech and gave the points. Easy money.
I know, CSB. But ISU seems to be broken, like a bad case of the yips.
I know, CSB. But ISU seems to be broken, like a bad case of the yips.
The NET and other metrics used were created to eliminate the “eye ball test”. Lots of people out there with bad eye balls and some of them find their way onto the committee. Your entire resume should count. If you beat Duke in December, you still beat Duke and that shouldn’t be taken away from you just because of when it happened.
Tech had 15 turnovers and only made six 3 pointers. Good thing too, as it allowed the clowns to keep it under a 35 point loss.
I admit I have not watched a ton of Big 12 ball. Decided to check out the Baylor game and it was only one game, but I came away not very impressed...by either team in all honesty. (Oklahoma had a ton of turnovers it seemed like) Just curious from those of you that follow the Big 12 closer, was that just a "one game thing" or is the style of play been similar in other games?
Also, that ISU game was bloody ugly. TT has a very good defense but man that is about 4 or 5 times this year ISU has been under 50 points I think. I see they have 5 Seniors...what does next year look like for them?
Also, that ISU game was bloody ugly. TT has a very good defense but man that is about 4 or 5 times this year ISU has been under 50 points I think. I see they have 5 Seniors...what does next year look like for them?
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It would've been very interesting if they had lost either one between that close game at TCU or if WVU didn't piss away that game in last min at Hilton and ISU finished tied for 8th at 6-12. How much on the bubble would they'd be? Some of the teams they've beat non conf like Xavier and Creighton struggling down the stretch and Memphis was over rated as usual under Hardaway. Mizzou and Oregon St are complete garbage teams so those wins don't move the needle for anyone. Iowa by far their best non conf win and even then Keegan playing first game on bum ankle. Credit to them they beat us good but both are totally different teams right now heading in different directions. ISU if you hold Brockington in check and Kalscher isn't having his 1 out of every 4-5 games where he is hitting 3s they struggle to score big time. Meanwhile Iowa has shown, unlike earlier in the year, that multiple guys can step up and score besides Keegan.
Understand and I don't know what the perfect formula/answer would be, but seems to me that even if you beat Duke in December, if you are struggling to put 50 points on the board for a stretch at the end of the season, getting your doors blown off, and look like a bad pick-up game, that should factor in too. And I'm not just talking about ISU's case. If you're mediocre for 1/2 the season and then "figure it out" towards the end, versus the opposite, should either matter more?
Again, not saying I know the right answer, but if you objectively look at Iowa State right now, would many consider them to be one of the best 68 teams right now?
Yep, clown fans sure were chirping about Kalscher before the season started and awesome he was going to be. He was around a 30% shooter at Minnesota and has found a way to go lower at isu. I know must ignore anything that trashes a clown fan delusion.
Honestly, right now:
Who is more dangerous:
ISU, Penn State or Nebraska?
Two of those teams are not playing basketball during Spring Break and the clones might be easiest win right now.
Who is more dangerous:
ISU, Penn State or Nebraska?
Two of those teams are not playing basketball during Spring Break and the clones might be easiest win right now.
This is the time of year where the scout on your team from within your conference is as good as its gonna get. ISU is just so very limited now because opposing teams can lock down their strengths without giving up a ton of open or good shots. ISU just doesn’t have the shooting to make most teams pay for that
Yep, it could just be that isu is bad on offense and unless they get turnovers that result in layups they will struggle to score.
Any isu jump shot is a win for the other team. 30% shooting won’t score many points which will put even more pressure on their grab, hack and push defense.
The ISU fade is just another example of a HC/team with new players that can have a distinct advantage early in a season before other coaches get film on tendencies.
Since the start of 2022, the ISU HC has shown an inability to adjust a game plan once people watch you play. He seems horrible in that respect.
Fortunately for TJ, ISU fans have pretty low expectations for their sports' programs. Beating Iowa once a decade and finishing above 500 most of the time is all that is required.
Since the start of 2022, the ISU HC has shown an inability to adjust a game plan once people watch you play. He seems horrible in that respect.
Fortunately for TJ, ISU fans have pretty low expectations for their sports' programs. Beating Iowa once a decade and finishing above 500 most of the time is all that is required.
Right now is ISU one of the best 68 teams in the country? Absolutely. The NCAA tournament doesn't take the best 68 teams, it takes a number of automatic qualifiers that are nowhere near the best 68 in the country, then adds in the at-large teams (this is where the committee does its job).
The fairest way is to consider the "body of work." Yes, things like injuries can be factored in too, but at least with the NET rankings they are taking into consideration the advanced metrics like efficiency margin to an extent, rather than RPI.
If Brockington can't score, the clowns are in serious trouble. The hilarious thing is that they think they are still the better team than Iowa and would beat us again.
BTW, KenPom has us 13th, ISU 49th. Lunardi has us as a 5 seed and ISU as a 9. NET rankings, Iowa 15th, ISU 47. So I guess everyone is on the same page when they think Clown U is the better team 🥴
BTW, KenPom has us 13th, ISU 49th. Lunardi has us as a 5 seed and ISU as a 9. NET rankings, Iowa 15th, ISU 47. So I guess everyone is on the same page when they think Clown U is the better team 🥴
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ISU - the landing place for misfit toys going back to Hoiberg…..
Exhibit A on why "let's go get a different coach" often times isn't the best idea. Exhibit B - Nebraska football. Exhibit C - Nebraska basketball.
"The grass is always greener..." syndrome. Some posters on this site have it, and don't like it when you point that out.
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