I think we continue to step on your throat. Bo games were close, for the most part. Recent games have exposed a trend. Trends continue until stopped. Initeria. Stop us. Prove it.
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I think we continue to step on your throat. Bo games were close, for the most part. Recent games have exposed a trend. Trends continue until stopped. Initeria. Stop us. Prove it.
Yawn, I really like the two linebackers we have committed better than Heinrichs, although he is a good prospect. Who else are we looking at at LB ?
Better line play on both sides of the ball, improved Iowa skill player recruiting, general toughness of Iowa vs Nebby players (particularly evident in cold weather games of Nov), slightly more run-oriented offensive attack by Iowa (which does better in aforementioned colder weather), and I have heard (although I'm certainly not an insider) of Ferentz's enhanced disdain for Nebraska after what Nebby AD said (or certainly implied) about Iowa's program a few years back. Need I go on?
Oh another mental giant.Talent had nothing to do with it, the talent was about equal. The difference has been Krik and his staff were better coaches and utilized their talent to their potential. Riley doesn't know how to do this.
I think Iowa will win or it will be a close game this year. I think the days of Nebraska looking horrible are over. It might take a few years for Frost to get his system and players in place, but Nebraska will be competitive again. I respect Iowas program, you guys have a good coach and it will be a good rivalry in a few years.
Finally...an answer. Thank you!
I'd argue that based on the fact that Pelini is now coaching at YSU while Frost was one of the hottest HC candidates recently might lead me to believe people in the know (major college football programs) think Frost is better.
If Frost is better than Pelini then how will Iowa continue to beat NU like many Iowa fans are so sure of if Pelini was 3-1 against Iowa? And that was toward the end of his tenure at Nebraska when he didn't have his best teams.
I'd agree that Frost was in fertile recruiting grounds at UCF, but he still didn't get 4* talent and had to develop it. NU pulled 6 kids out of FL and 2 out of GA. So I guess NU's talent is getting better.
If Frost is even just as good of HC at YSU's current HC then I'd expect NU to start beating Iowa more often than not. Seems reasonable, right?
Granted, coaching is certainly huge in the college game, but hard to imagine that every coach on Riley's staff was sub-par? Iowa's talent level is under-rated, and I hope other teams continue to overlook the Hawks.
Yes, do go on. Why do you think the line play was better over the past 3 seasons, but wasn't so much the four prior to that?
You don't think Frost's offense will run the ball? Also, not sure how Kirky's disdain for our prior AD will have any impact on future results.
I have my thoughts. I think Riley sucked really bad. I think that the strength program was crap. At least that's the word coming from current players and people that have been around the program. I think that NU is very capable of getting back to building tough strong football players. Iowa doesn't have a monopoly on that. So now that NU is working as hard as Iowa in the weight room that line play gap should close quickly. Also, I think NU has better skill players than anyone in the West and should continue to do so given the type of offense they run. Kids want to play in that offense.
I think I can't wait for the season to start. This year will be tough with that schedule and players learning a new system, but there are a ton of logical reasons for NU fans to be very optimistic about the near future.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, but I'll play along. Like I mentioned, I'm not sure (nor are you) that in the long run Frost will turn out to be a better HC than Pelini? I'm no insider in coaching circles, but maybe the reason that Pelini is at YSU (rather than a bigger/name program) is that he is such a horses a$$ that no AD wanted to deal with him? It doesn't mean that his technical coaching knowledge is poor, just that he's a jerk. You also keep mentioning that 3 to 1 record that Pelini had against Iowa as proof that Pelini had such a strangle hold on that series. If you look at the actual games it was a whisker from being 3 to 1 the other way, or certainly a 2 to 2 tie. Iowa had the largest, most dominating win at 38 to 17, two of the Nebby wins were by 6 & 13 points, and the last one was a come from behind OT win by Neb. The scores are what they are, but the OT loss by Iowa was essentially your punt returner having a great game in second half (certainly not an indication that Pelini is a better coach than Frost or Ferentz). I assume you are being somewhat trollish, but hopefully you're not laying your entire hopes on Pelini's 3 to 1 record vs Iowa
Or that just because someone is a "hot HC candidate" that they are destined to succeed. There are certainly examples where this has not occurred.
You're correct that no one can predict next fall's outcome in July.
UCF is at worst a top 3 job in their conference. Nebraska will get better recruits, but their recruiting will be comparable to most mid tier B1G schools. That puts them around the Top 25 which has been the ceiling for this millennium.
Oregon has a California pipeline. Kids who cannot get into high profile schools like Stanford, USC, UCLA, etc. flock to Oregon. Boise State used the same philosophy to rise to power. Nebraska has no regional pipeline.
I'm sure as a Nebby fan you are optimistic about the future because huskers last 15 or so years have been nothing to brag about. I don't think Iowa's strength and developmental programs will just go away now that Frosty is in Lincoln. Actually, Iowa's recruiting has been quite good. Rich Rod and Harbaugh were supposed to turn around Michigan and Iowa has won the last 5 out of 6 vs the Wolverines. I'm more concerned about Wisconsin & to a certain extent Northwestern, than I am about Nebby's future impact on Iowa.
Are we not intertained? Yes we are.
Pure joy seeing NU fans walking and talking like little brother. Congrats to all you ‘git er done’, knuckle draggin, sister molesting, toothless meth heads. You pulled a kid from your own back yard and your yappin like Clown fans. Your insecurity is palpable.
Awesome!
Serious question: Why can’t Neb compete with Iowa anymore? I’m not saying that Neb has to beat Iowa but why can’t they lose closely to us anymore?
Is Iowa really that much superior?
Scott Flop is definitely not the answer. I love the hire as a Hawkeye fan & hope they hold on to him for a long long time!
Is Iowa really that much superior?
Scott Flop is definitely not the answer. I love the hire as a Hawkeye fan & hope they hold on to him for a long long time!
U must have missed the Auburns players comments then leading up to that game. They were ready to play especially since the UCF player threw down bulletin board material for them to fire them up.
U are just graspung at straws if u dont think Aubby wasnt ready to play that game.
Its cute though.
They also went winless the yr before he took over, and there were a lot of players on that 0 win team that then went undefeated two yrs later. I would say taking players off of a 0-12 team and then coaching them up to go undefeated is no small task.
So many points to make in so little time.
1) Henrich looked like a good player. So did Honas. We would have loved to have had both here. No sour grapes from me. But after Honas chose NU, Iowa got a kid out of GA that really looks the part. The Hawks have several good-looking underclassmen who show promise.
2) I have no idea which coach is better. Pellini has a larger body of work to scrutinize. What Frost did last year was impressive, no question. Right now, proclaiming him a coaching H o F'r is like one of our fans drooling over how stacked we are at RB-they look the part but haven't proven anything yet. One year of anything doesn't prove a thing.
3) You guys have been ass pounded since you came to the B1G because of your lack of physicality. This didn't start with Riley. Bo's little-black-dress defense gave up 70 in the ONE BiG championship you have played in. And the common theme I see in this thread is "Iowa only beat NU when we had a crappy coach." Partially true. Iowa didn't have much success historically against NU. Saint Tom did lose here in 81. But it is laughable who you think were crappy coaches. Solich-.750 winning record. Callahan-OK, crappy coach. Who chased Solich away and replaced him with that turd? Pelini-.700 record and 100% an asshat. Who hired him then fired him? You guys have been unsuccessfully looking for Bear Bryant since Osborne retired.
Which brings me to my point: since NU has been irrelevant in the B1G due to their lack of toughness, how do you think a guy who hides in a closet while a teammate beats the shit out of his girlfriend is going to be the one to instill that?
And one last thing-is coming to another team's message board to gloat over winning a 3* hometown LB a sign of a fanbase that is secure in their knowledge they are on solid ground?
I'll be waiting for your response. Not
I guess Henrich was not as big a Hawk fan as report earlier. Just because his Dad played tennis at Iowa does not make his football son a legacy. I guess living West of the Missouri has changed the young man.
Today's society is all about what is new and shinny, Scott Frost may be a good coach, time will tell. The media, certainly has hyped him up. Kirk isn't flashy, he just gets the job done. He is a known commodity - great developer of men and football talent, honest, benevolent and a Hawk through and through.
Really wish Husker fans would grow up. They should show some humility, after all they have been humbled since joining the Big Ten.
Today's society is all about what is new and shinny, Scott Frost may be a good coach, time will tell. The media, certainly has hyped him up. Kirk isn't flashy, he just gets the job done. He is a known commodity - great developer of men and football talent, honest, benevolent and a Hawk through and through.
Really wish Husker fans would grow up. They should show some humility, after all they have been humbled since joining the Big Ten.
They are the least classy fans in the nation. Just wait if they start to have success.
You beat our 7-6 team by 13 in 2011. Well done.
In 2012 you beat our 4-8 team by 6 and we had a shot to win it before throwing a pick on the game’s final drive.
In 2013 we beat you by 21. That’s “pretty badly.”
In 2014, you beat us by 3 in OT. We were 7-6 on the year.
Not sure where all these pretty bad beatings Nebraska has given us are.
Additionally, I’ll say that Iowa took your last 9 win team, who was ranked #16 at the time, out behind the woodshed and beat the dog piss out of it 40-10. How’s that for “pretty badly?”
1. Solich wasnt a great coach. He had good success when he inherited the players TO had on the roster, but his recruiting was not getting it done and NU lacked play makers and depth during his final years. If Solich was such a good coach, then why did only Ohio come calling to hire him after NU? Wouldnt one think that he would have had larger job offers? Even a crappy P 5 job offer if he was a good coach? Use your logical brain on this.
2. Bo was not a good coach, he beat the lower tier teams like he should, but he rarely beat the teams that were same or above same talent. And again, Bo was not a good coach, which is why he went from 9 wins a year at NU to coaching at Youngstown State. Where were all of the job offers. But the now YTown state coach was 3-1 vs you guys while he was at NU.
3. No one is claiming Frost is a some hall of famer, we are just claiming he is probably better than Bo Pelini (Who again was 3-1 vs you guys while at NU). So if we think Frost is better than BO and Bo went 3-1 vs you guys, why shouldnt we be at least a little bit confident that he can find success against you guys?
4. Lack of physicality is only a small portion as to why NU has been under the radar since joining the B10. It has more to do with other things like culture, recruiting, development and not processing players that were not contributing. This led to NU having to start multiple walk ons multiple years. And lets be honest you are not going to win much if you are starting multiple walk ons over scholly players cause there is something wrong going on with your program if you are that situation.
So your premise is off base, all Frost has to be is better than Bo Pelini cause BO kind of owned you guys while he was at NU and frankly Bo was not that good of a coach. This is why he is at Ytown St and not at some other D1 school even a low tier D1 school stalking the sidelines. NU fans are pretty confident if an azzhat of a coach like Pelini can go 3-1 vs Iowa, that a better coach (whom we believe Frost is, in many respects) should be able to find similar success.
Damn, I saw: "we were 7-6 when you beat us in this game"
and "we were 4-8 when you beat us in this game"
then it was again "we were 7-6 when you beat us in this game"
Damn two 7 win seasons wrapped around a 4 win season, lucky for you guys you replaced that god awful coach right? Oh wait...
Congrats, you beat us the last 3 times with the worst coach probably in our programs history. Kudos!
And BTW that coach that beat you guys 3 times is now coaching at a D1AA school cause he is that bad of a coach. Your coach that got beat by that D1AA coach 3 times, keeps getting raises for some unknown reason.
Funny stuff.
You Hawkeyes like to proclaim that we believe we will be kicking ass this year. Aside from a few knothead message board fans I literally don’t know anyone who thinks that. Our hope is tougher play this year, both mentally and physically. We quit during games last year. Have to fix that. Hopefully that equates to an extra win or two this year and margin of loss diminishes. I won’t concede to you guys this year but I won’t bet a dime on us to beat anyone. Hopefully within a year or two we are highly competitive and contending for west division titles. I really like Frost as our coach and am confindent he’ll right the ship.
I love Nebraska “blue bloods” coming here to brag about a 3* get from Lincoln to the fan base of lowly little brother Iowa. God, you guys are such winners. I’m so jealous of your absolute domination of the B1G. Very very impressive. Maybe, someday, with a little luck, we will be so successful and dominate that we too can brag about a 3* backyard get like we just won a title.
Congrats on the pick up. Nebraska will be much better with Frost no doubt as I see them contending for the west in a few years and league titles too.
Both Iowa and Nebraska are improving their recruiting with young and energetic coaches so it will be fun to see who can manage playing throughout the entire year/season in the B1G with minimal injuries and solid back ups when needed to compete at the end of the season in our match up.
And it will be interesting to see how Frost’s offense runs in cold weather games of the B1G compared to warmer climates of FL and Oregon. I think it will be difficult to throw the ball like Nebraskans think they will do. I thought we were told this will happen with Callahan and Riley with their west coast offenses but I must be wrong.
No question Iowa has been more physical but so has just about everyone else we had played the past few years and that was all on Riley and his staff even Jerry DeNardo pointed that out when Riley arrived at Nebraska during the fall camp tours BTN went on.
Keep in mind that same boneheaded AD that made those comments about Iowa ( or implied) program was the same bonehead that made that great hire by picking Mike Riley...
Both those losers are no longer running Nebraska Athletic programs and Football team.
Series: Nebraska leads 29–16–3
BTW
Series: Nebraska leads 29–16–3
Includes NU winning 6 of the last 10
Iowa has had a nice 3 game run-congrats
NU has been up and down and Iowa caught them at the end of the season down with no depth. Iowa should win at least one of the next two years as NU cannot get out of the hole much faster than that.
The problem for Iowa is NU wont stay there while those are Iowa's BEST years. Iowa is destined to have mediocrity as its top and celebrate as great seasons seasons that NU fires their coaches for as they expect 10 wins or more.
Iowa is about to become NU's ugly little freckle faced step brother that gets slapped around easily and often==AGAIN
BTW
Series: Nebraska leads 29–16–3
Includes NU winning 6 of the last 10
Iowa has had a nice 3 game run-congrats
NU has been up and down and Iowa caught them at the end of the season down with no depth. Iowa should win at least one of the next two years as NU cannot get out of the hole much faster than that.
The problem for Iowa is NU wont stay there while those are Iowa's BEST years. Iowa is destined to have mediocrity as its top and celebrate as great seasons seasons that NU fires their coaches for as they expect 10 wins or more.
Iowa is about to become NU's ugly little freckle faced step brother that gets slapped around easily and often==AGAIN
What a dramatic thread haha. Bummer Iowa lost out but the writing was on the wall for a while. Glad he found the place where he was most comfy. Good luck to him.
As far as Pelini or Frost I think this comparison is laughable. Frost is by far the better coach. We got to see Pelini up close for years. Dude is a good D coordinator. Nebraska got themselves a good one. He still has a lot to prove but we all know if Frost and Pelini were the two candidates in IC for whatever reason 10/10 would pick Frost every time.
As far as Pelini or Frost I think this comparison is laughable. Frost is by far the better coach. We got to see Pelini up close for years. Dude is a good D coordinator. Nebraska got themselves a good one. He still has a lot to prove but we all know if Frost and Pelini were the two candidates in IC for whatever reason 10/10 would pick Frost every time.
And you are bragging that being part of a program that NEVER has been relevant as being a better option?
Better learn how to win a bowl game first
2014 Outback Bowl
Iowa HawkeyesLSU Tigers
(8–4) (9–3)
14 21
2015 TaxSlayer Bowl
(a.k.a. Gator Bowl)
Iowa HawkeyesTennessee Volunteers
(7–5) (6–6)
28 45
Here is a classic Iowa performance
2016 Rose Bowl
Stanford CardinalIowa Hawkeyes
(11–2) (12–1)
Pac-12Big Ten
45 16
And another typical Iowa performance
2017 Outback Bowl
Florida GatorsIowa Hawkeyes
(8–4) (8–4)
SECBig Ten
30 3
How did Iowa do in their bowl game?
Same as always I guess.
Iowa =the only state that doesn't count bowl games
Left out the Pinstripe Bowl? Way to cherry pick.
How about winning something of relevancy so that the old trophy case isnt empty forever.
You would take Ferentz huh?
No wonder it is still empty!
