2 I'd agree with. PG would be a travesty.
And funny to watch.
2 I'd agree with. PG would be a travesty.
From UI website, Admissions:
For 23-24 school year, Nonresident:
Tuition: $32,927
Room & Board: $12,616
Total: $45,543
link:
https://admissions.uiowa.edu/finances/estimated-costs-
Such a ridiculous amount of money.Interesting.
Instate tuition was under $3000 when I started school in the late 70's.Such a ridiculous amount of money.
Instate tuition was under $3000 when I started school in the late 70's.
Now I know who the dumb a$$ is, just solidifies that you're races too....please tell us who you're targeting as "PEOPLE"? You might want to retract or delete your last post!It needs to be higher and with fewer loans available to price out the people that need to be looking at trade schools instead.
Now I know who the dumb a$$ is, just solidifies that you're races too....please tell us who you're targeting as "PEOPLE"? You might want to retract or delete your last post!
This is post 260. See post 256 above. Tyler the troll copied that post and pasted it in the dupllicate thread, just to bump that thread. It's too bad people like that are allowed to post on here.
I'm not privy to any goings on at Iowa or with any roster players, if I did my user name would be "Franisdaman1".... I'm kidding
Just a thought, if he sits out a year without going to any school and tries to get into a program in 24/25 would he still have 4 years remaining in eligibility?
You do realize that skilled trades are almost entirely white and Mexican men right?Now I know who the dumb a$$ is, just solidifies that you're races too....please tell us who you're targeting as "PEOPLE"? You might want to retract or delete your last post!
Or we could just make the cost of knowledge free to everyone instead of universities and colleges running a business. But...that wouldn't be advantageous to maintaining the status quo.What is "races"?
I'm targeting the great # of people that go to college every year that should be going to trade schools where they will end up with very little, if any debt and a skill that will ensure they are employable with a living wage for a long time.
There are way too many people leaving college with an enormous amount of debt and a degree that barely gets them in the door when applying for a customer service job.
Nothing is free, someone has to pay for it. A junior college "professor" told me that their school should be free. I asked him if he would work for free?Or we could just make the cost of knowledge free to everyone instead of universities and colleges running a business. But...that wouldn't be advantageous to maintaining the status quo.
Its the Iowa way for many. Pining over something that never was for what might have been.....All this nonsense over a freaking walk-on that had basically no D1 offers? What am I missing?
Especially when we have someone in office that thinks that we "the people" need to pay for the debt that THEY agreed to take on, when they signed up for it. Your right though, I know quite a few people who spent 4 or 5 years in college and graduated, and then got a job in something that had little to do with their chosen field.You do realize that skilled trades are almost entirely white and Mexican men right?
It's undeniable that too many people are going into debt for degrees that will not pay for themselves.
Skilled trades are a much easier and faster path to accumulating wealth for most people.
No serious person is debating this.
And often limited potential for advancement.Especially when we have someone in office that thinks that we "the people" need to pay for the debt that THEY agreed to take on, when they signed up for it. Your right though, I know quite a few people who spent 4 or 5 years in college and graduated, and then got a job in something that had little to do with their chosen field.
Nothing is free, someone has to pay for it. A junior college "professor" told me that their school should be free. I asked him if he would work for free?
Especially when we have someone in office that thinks that we "the people" need to pay for the debt that THEY agreed to take on, when they signed up for it. Your right though, I know quite a few people who spent 4 or 5 years in college and graduated, and then got a job in something that had little to do with their chosen field.
False choice.I already pay extremely high taxes. I'd rather have the money go to schools than bombing kids in the middle east. Call me crazy.
The brink of ww3, where lots of children will be bombed?College was never meant to get you a job. College is for learning. I'd much rather live in a highly educated society. These uneducated people can vote and look where that's got us.
Also, someone can easily go to trade school after college if they want. I'm 36 years old and a software engineer and still take college courses that interest me.
I think there are A LOT of employers who would disagree with your statement. As would my two sons who have double majors one in accounting and MIS, and the other in accounting and finance.....College was never meant to get you a job. College is for learning. I'd much rather live in a highly educated society. These uneducated people can vote and look where that's got us.
Also, someone can easily go to trade school after college if they want. I'm 36 years old and a software engineer and still take college courses that interest me.
I think there are A LOT of employers who would disagree with your statement. As would my two sons who have double majors one in accounting and MIS, and the other in accounting and finance.....
Another option would be to keep your money.I already pay extremely high taxes. I'd rather have the money go to schools than bombing kids in the middle east. Call me crazy.
Another option would be to keep your money.
False, and its also not an allowed option.That is not conducive to a functioning and successful society.
Interesting that fran doesn't like when someone takes a post from his thread but he's the one who started that. He used to always take a question from another thread and then answer it in his thread. I don't know what kind of mental disorder he has, but it sure is annoying that he has to always be the owner of the thread and will never let his thread die.And you really tagged a moderator in this post? Once a narc always a narc, I guess.
False, and its also not an allowed option.
There are zero long term examples of a society being taxing into prosperity, only examples of the opposite.
I can sympathize with those feelings. My point, in regards to that hypothetical, is that if we weren't taxed at such a high rate, people would able to donate to charitable projects of their choosing and that would be a far more efficient use of the money. They could also invest/spend more in their communities which raises the level of all ships.I'm already taxed into oblivion. I would just rather have it invested in the people than in endless war and passion projects by greedy politicians and their contractor friends.
I can sympathize with those feelings. My point, in regards to that hypothetical, is that if we weren't taxed at such a high rate, people would able to donate to charitable projects of their choosing and that would be a far more efficient use of the money. They could also invest/spend more in their communities which raises the level of all ships.
Endless war will always exist until we stop putting their paid for proxies in office. Student loan forgiveness is an additional cost on top of that. If we could exchange one for the other it wouldn't be so bad.
I would even be ok with a one time loan forgiveness if the government got out of the lending business because they are ultimately the cause of the problem.
With AI and the internet, the professors are largely becoming extinct. Regardless, their salaries are not the reason college costs so much...Nothing is free, someone has to pay for it. A junior college "professor" told me that their school should be free. I asked him if he would work for free?
We the people are paying the debt that all of the politicians in history agreed to take on. Why should this be any different? Only because you don't like this one thing.Especially when we have someone in office that thinks that we "the people" need to pay for the debt that THEY agreed to take on, when they signed up for it. Your right though, I know quite a few people who spent 4 or 5 years in college and graduated, and then got a job in something that had little to do with their chosen field.
In order to get residency he has to live in the state for at least a year, work during that time and only take like 1 class. If it was as easy as just living in the state for a year, every out of state kid would be doing it.If he has been in Iowa City for a year could he have established residency and got in state tuition?
It was something I looked at when I considered going to ASU out of high school. But that was a loooong time ago
Its a lot different, and anyone with a brain would understand the difference. In most cases we pay taxes for services, the armed forces etc.. which are there for ALL the people. We could debate forever if the cost is warrented, thats another discussion entirely. These are debts taken on by individuals, which they AGREEDED too before hand, and now you think that I should help cover the cost. Not on your life. Whats next, I don't think I can make my car payments, or pay my mortgage, so will just pool everyones money and have the socialist society pay for it, because thats exactly what this is.....We the people are paying the debt that all of the politicians in history agreed to take on. Why should this be any different? Only because you don't like this one thing.
Thank you for the clarification. Was long ago when I looked at itIn order to get residency he has to live in the state for at least a year, work during that time and only take like 1 class. If it was as easy as just living in the state for a year, every out of state kid would be doing it.
So you're saying make the people that have loans now pay them back but it's fine to then pay for college for anyone thereafter? I'm fine with that little wrinkle but I must ask:Its a lot different, and anyone with a brain would understand the difference. In most cases we pay taxes for services, the armed forces etc.. which are there for ALL the people. We could debate forever if the cost is warrented, thats another discussion entirely. These are debts taken on by individuals, which they AGREEDED too before hand, and now you think that I should help cover the cost. Not on your life. Whats next, I don't think I can make my car payments, or pay my mortgage, so will just pool everyones money and have the socialist society pay for it, because thats exactly what this is.....
Did you see him in a starting role? Heavy minutes? Bench support?Very sorry to hear that Nimmers is going elsewhere. I haven't seen a lot of film but what I did see looked very encouraging.
I'm addressing one issue we we're discussing which I am totally against. I have no intention of spending the next several days here making this thread about all the issues with our govt. and how they spend our tax $$So you're saying make the people that have loans now pay them back but it's fine to then pay for college for anyone thereafter? I'm fine with that little wrinkle but I must ask:
You OK with the government bailing out all the corporations that took big loans and couldn't pay them back?
We should be paying for the solution to problems rather than reacting to the problem. But what “program” will you cut? Those who agree or benefit, including the decision makers, will call you every name in the book from racist, misogynist, Putin sympathizer, etc. While the cost maybe shouldn’t be free completely, someone has to find the money for those who pass on the knowledge. The world isn’t full of rainbows and unicorns.Or we could just make the cost of knowledge free to everyone instead of universities and colleges running a business. But...that wouldn't be advantageous to maintaining the status quo.