Nimmers Tranferring
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That is the average. The bigger schools are going to be making more, and the smaller schools less. The non-teachers that live in those small towns are also probably making less than non-teachers in big cities. Our school district just posted district salaries in the newspaper last week and I was shocked to see the K-4 music teacher from our elementary school pulling in over 100k.
I guess this is where I need to respond to make something very clear - I said get rid of BS degrees. The BS stood for Bull Sh#t. Come on people.
And again, what do you consider bullshit degrees? Life is about learning. College as well. You don't get to decide what is a bullshit degree for people.
You do if you get people who demand/expect/promised cancelation of their student loans because they spent too much time and money on it and can't make it to their standard of living. You want to pay for someone's learning - go ahead. Just don't expect everyone else to have that same level of support. We as a population just can't pay for everything. As I mentioned, I'm all for free education/trade school as long as you find some other program(s) to cut. Maybe you missed that or just chose to ignore.
And as far as what degree I consider BS - any one that cannot pay the bills and you expect to be compensated for it. Learn on your own dime if you can't.
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Let me just say teachers in general deserve more respect than they currently get from a group of people. Just like I have respect for many professions, such as doctors. I look at it this way, all teachers have my respect until a teacher loses it, but that’s on a teacher by teacher basis. Now some of you might start out with zero respect and require the teacher to earn your respect. To me that doesn’t seem like the right way to treat any person.
It definitely can be district by district. I would agree the music teacher is making “good money”. But as you can read from some posts, other people have. different opinion on what teachers should be making.
I knew what BS meant. I actually think we agree, people need to take responsibility for their loans and don’t expect others to bail them out. It’s that simple. I think every degree is important for the right person so we don’t need to eliminate them.
Taking responsibilty and accountability really is the issue, isn't it?
It really is. But that comes into play for multiple topics. When people don't fulfill their requirements then other people have to step in. It might be someone's boss having to micromanage to make sure work is getting done. In this example, in order to get people to pay, the suggestion was to remove degrees that seem to be related to people who don't pay. I prefer to not do that because it really doesn't solve the real problem.
All that said, there are situations where people just can't pay. There are all kinds of life changing issues people have and so they're unable to pay. But that needs to be dealt with separately.
No programs need to be cut. (Though, I'm fine with reforming welfare and a few other things.) We just need to change tax law to make corporations and the ultra wealthy pay their tax share.
The wealthy already pay most of the taxes.
Raising taxes on corporations sounds great until you realize they'll just move to another country.
We already pay taxes on par with the socialist countries in Europe. We don't get the same return because our government has no accountability because our citizens are so pathetically uninformed.
The most wealthy people in this country are paying 0 in taxes or pay far less than they used to with the sweetheart deal Trump gave them for LIFE when he was in office. You're completely full of shit.
The large corporations got the same sweetheart deal. It's all a crock of shit with "trickle down economics" from the Reagan years that has been proven to not work at all. Corporations aren't going anywhere because we'll just tax their imports enough to make it not worth moving operations overseas. That's a complete cop out.
I'll agree with you that our government has no accountability. So much wasteful spending we could pay for everyone's college, fund social security, and go a long way toward paying for medical care for the country if there was accountability on both sides of the aisle.
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Here's two facts.
In 2020 the top 1 percent paid about 40% of the income tax.
The total amount of tax revenue the government took in increased under Trump.
These are both easy to verify using Google.
Reality is very different from the political narratives.
No shit. And the top 1% have far more wealth than the majority of the other 99%.
Tax revenue increases about every single year because of inflation. What a stupid point.
Reality is that the top 1% are accounting for more and more of the wealth in the US. That number is accelerating. As a result, we shouldn't be giving them tax cuts...quite the opposite.
We aren't talking about doctors and lawyers here. So let's not get it confused. I'm talking about wealthy people, not rich people.
I don't doubt there was an increase in tax revenue under trump, he raised taxes on many middle class people like myself.
Good conversation guys,.. take it to the off topic board.
Youre moving the goal posts.
You said the wealthy are paying zero in taxes which is obviously not true.
Inflation was under 2%
Tax revenue increased because everyone was making and spending money. Everyone was spending money because they had more of it and it was easy to borrow. Money exchanging hands is how taxes happen.
Higher taxes makes it easier for the super rich to consolidate wealth. Small business can't afford the taxes that Amazon's and Walmarts can.
It's amazing how the top 1% pay no taxes while at the same time still paying 42% of all taxes collected & earning only 22% of all income in US. How can that be possible - unless your claim is totally bogus?
Who is this “Nimmers” guy?
Does he pay taxes??
Does he pay taxes??
It's almost as if I said they "pay 0 in taxes or less than they used to". Perhaps you and RocknRoll should work on the reading comprehension. You get the ultra wealthy to pay what they are intended to and that 42% increases to a level that it should be.
‘Should be’
Who determines that?
Maybe someone in the off topic forum could help…….
The government determines that and under the Trump organization, they determined it should be less despite the growing wealth of those individuals. That's why it makes no sense at all.
OT, what's that? This board is the wild west these days.
Let's see, you responded, you asked a question, and then you tell the other poster to move to a different forum. You're contributing to what you're complaining about.
How many more billion do you want people like Musk to contribute through taxes? And for all those corporations that get tax cuts to move into a town/city, ask those local municipalities if they really want them to move. Lots of people work at those big bad businesses who spend a lot of money in the town.
I suggest you also start to consider the people who sign the front of the check too rather than only those who just sign the back. Without them and their risks taken, there is no back of the check.
You really need to learn the truth and to stop listening to biased/edited propoganda targeted soley for political reasons. The rich pay the vast bulk of what is collected in taxes Yes, there are loop holes in certain tax laws but to say the wealthy pay Zero in taxes is simply false. Blame Trump? Blame congress if you want actual laws changed.
I want Musk and people like him to pay taxes at an increased rate that matches their growth in wealth. That's it.
Yes, those poor corporations and CEOs that are taking these massive risks.
I'm not talking about small businesses here. Corporations that are raking in record profits year over year should be taxed at an increased rate that matches that growth. Pretty basic stuff here.
Again, re-read what I said and stop cherry picking one portion. I said some pay 0 and others pay less than they used to.
This isn't political other than my mention of Trump's tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations which is just a matter of fact.
I couldn't care less about the politics of it all. Simply have the wealthy that are getting more wealthy pay more in taxes. Have better oversight on the government programs and spending to reduce the costs and balance everything out. It shouldn't be difficult but it is because you have politics in the way.
For me personally, I'll never waste a minute defending Musk for how much he pays in taxes. Musk has a vested interest in having a country where people have money to buy his cars. That's the same for anyone or any company that want's to sell to the public. It doesn't do them any good for everyone to be poor. As far as i'm concerned, Musk can go try to sell his cars in some other country if he doesn't like the taxes in the US. Musk is in the US because he knows that's where he can make his money and live a good life.
What incentive do you have to grow a business if you are just going to be taxed at an increased rate? And you fail to understand why tax breaks are given. Most of them at the local level. Ever wonder why all of those employees wear their name tags when they go out to lunch? Because it is a give and take. When corporations do well they hire more people. The federal government gets the vast majority of tax revenue from individuals. So ultimately the healthier the corporations are the better it is for everyone. Stopy worrying about or simply being jealous of the select CEO's who make the big money and pay more attention about who donates to who. Might surprise you a bit and give you more insight why the laws don't get changed. And here is a hint - they don't all identify as GOP.I want Musk and people like him to pay taxes at an increased rate that matches their growth in wealth. That's it.
Yes, those poor corporations and CEOs that are taking these massive risks.
Very aware of that and it was done with intent. Simply requesting to stay on topic didn't work so I attempted a different approach. It didn't work either. Not sure if the complexity of 'basketball forum' is too much for people to comprehend.
Dems had control of the house, senate AND presidency for two years. Your Trump derangement hatred is lost to the fact the dems did nothing to correct this supposed evil tax injustice. The Biden's corruption is astonishingly transparent at this juncture yet you seem impervious to the ole geezers lawlessness because of your partisan flag. Not an impressive look.
I don't see one mention of political affiliation in this post. They're all corrupt.
What does Biden's lawlessness have to do with a tax law put into place by a different president? I'm the one focused on partisan politics? Go check the mirror. Has zero relevance to the topic.
If they could have reversed things and did not, I hold them just as accountable. I don't really give a crap which party or president is responsible for cutting taxes to the top 1% and corporations, it's bullshit.
Again, I don't care about party affiliation. I'm a moderate. It just looks like I'm a dirty liberal to those that are so entrenched with the right that they can't see logic.
I'm not suggesting a business get taxed at an increased rate that wipes out all their increased profits. That's stupid. I'm saying that the tax percentage should increase as the profits increase. This whole "What's the point of growing a business" thing is ridiculous. I'm not talking about mom and pop small businesses and the vast majority of those are never going to morph into the huge corporations that I'm referring to. I'm talking about Fortune 50, Fortune 100 type companies here.
They got a sweetheart deal on taxes because then supposedly they'd hire a bunch of people which they didn't do. Then, during COVID, they got even more money and what did they do instead of hiring people and increasing salaries? They bought back their stock and gave higher bonuses to execs. This has nothing to do with Right or Left. It has to do with wealth and who is getting richer.
Please...dont insult our intelligence. Your selective use of Trump during your invective when Biden is the prez and had total control to change tax policy is, obviously, a political shot. Not a reasoned discussion of tax policy. Typical hypocrisy on this board - MAKE it political and then decry its political.
