did you witness the foul incident? I know I asked in another threadI was at the game Saturday. It’s the first time I’ve ever been in a pro Basketball Arena for a game. Gainbridge makes Carver look like the YMCA.
did you witness the foul incident? I know I asked in another threadI was at the game Saturday. It’s the first time I’ve ever been in a pro Basketball Arena for a game. Gainbridge makes Carver look like the YMCA.
They love hating villains and watching them lose, so there is a difference.Rich Eisen was making this point yesterday on his podcast, i.e., fans love villains, bitter rivalries (something he says the NBA is missing these days). While it could be true in the short run, I think people tire of watching that type of basketball and long term it will be a negative. Rivalries, yes, the other stuff, no.
The Lakers and Celtics also had that at one time, but it doesn't exist anymore, either. The NBA tried to rekindle that, but it fell flat. Maybe free agency/mobility of the players has killed that in the NBA.They love hating villains and watching them lose, so there is a difference.
And I agree that long term it's not a viable option, however I also want to add that this isn't something that will work if it's manufactured like Angel Reese has been trying to do since the NCG.
The Bulls had their rivalry with the Pistons until they overcame them. And then several teams tried to fill that void and never really came close. There were the Knicks, and then the Magic and Pacers but nothing reached what the late '80s Pistons were to the MJ Bulls.
But all those heated matchups came naturally and organically, and weren't forced upon Jordan and the Bulls by any one player or the media for the sake of generating hype.
Agree with much of this. Quality of play is also a factor. Those were all some great and entertaining teams to watch. The WNBA… not so much.They love hating villains and watching them lose, so there is a difference.
And I agree that long term it's not a viable option, however I also want to add that this isn't something that will work if it's manufactured like Angel Reese has been trying to do since the NCG.
The Bulls had their rivalry with the Pistons until they overcame them. And then several teams tried to fill that void and never really came close. There were the Knicks, and then the Magic and Pacers but nothing reached what the late '80s Pistons were to the MJ Bulls.
But all those heated matchups came naturally and organically, and weren't forced upon Jordan and the Bulls by any one player or the media for the sake of generating hype.
There's a reason Isiah wasn't on the Dream Team. It was because MJ hated him for how much the Pistons pounded on him in the 80s.The Lakers and Celtics also had that at one time, but it doesn't exist anymore, either. The NBA tried to rekindle that, but it fell flat. Maybe free agency/mobility of the players has killed that in the NBA.
She's not smart enough to understand any of that....Good thing she went to an SEC school to get that worthless diploma she's so proud of......
Thanks to Lebron and his mercenary friends, MJ, Bird and Magic knew that their rivalries fueled the league and fan interest. Its hard to care at all about todays players. Here one year and off to buy another ring somewhere else the next. To me Lebrons rings are meaningless stacked against the greats of the past.....I think the super teams killed that in the NBA. The Heat and Warriors accumulated a lot of talent and left the rest of the league with good teams but no one that really stood out.
Now it seems to better dispersed again but there isn’t a villain type out there.
Was it Wade, Bosh and LeBron who formed the first free agent "super team"? I don't remember if Bosh was already in Miami and LeBron joined them or if Bosh and LeBron came at the same time. That did seem to become more of a thing in the recent past than what I remember from before, but a lot of that history compresses in time for me, so I could be way off.Thanks to Lebron and his mercenary friends, MJ, Bird and Magic knew that their rivalries fueled the league and fan interest. Its hard to care at all about todays players. Here one year and off to buy another ring somewhere else the next. To me Lebrons rings are meaningless stacked against the greats of the past.....
I just remember MJ commenting on what a farce it was, that these stars would all join on one team to BUY titles. He knew how meaningful those rings were, when you had Magics Lakers, Birds Celtics, and the Bad boys in the motor city. Throw in Philly, and Houston. Hell Atlanta with Nique. Just IMHO, but Lebrons rings and record seem hollow considering the way he whored himself around the league.Was it Wade, Bosh and LeBron who formed the first free agent "super team"? I don't remember if Bosh was already in Miami and LeBron joined them or if Bosh and LeBron came at the same time. That did seem to become more of a thing in the recent past than what I remember from before, but a lot of that history compresses in time for me, so I could be way off.
Yes it was....Was it Wade, Bosh and LeBron who formed the first free agent "super team"? I don't remember if Bosh was already in Miami and LeBron joined them or if Bosh and LeBron came at the same time. That did seem to become more of a thing in the recent past than what I remember from before, but a lot of that history compresses in time for me, so I could be way off.
She's like an ugly Draymond GreenCheck out this clown's history. The turkey needs to be sent back to Turkey.
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A face even a mother couldn’t love.She's like an ugly Draymond Green
Disagree completely. I think these issues of quality are short term. The eyes on the league will elevate the level of play, especially as Clark's teams and performance ascends, not to mention the next wave of stars including Watkins, Bueckers on the horizon.Rich Eisen was making this point yesterday on his podcast, i.e., fans love villains, bitter rivalries (something he says the NBA is missing these days). While it could be true in the short run, I think people tire of watching that type of basketball and long term it will be a negative. Rivalries, yes, the other stuff, no.
That's dumb. I am a diehard 90s Bulls fan - ride or die. But they brought in Rodman and Kukoc. Not sure how that's different from Bosh and Wade.I just remember MJ commenting on what a farce it was, that these stars would all join on one team to BUY titles. He knew how meaningful those rings were, when you had Magics Lakers, Birds Celtics, and the Bad boys in the motor city. Throw in Philly, and Houston. Hell Atlanta with Nique. Just IMHO, but Lebrons rings and record seem hollow considering the way he whored himself around the league.
I don't know if I disagree, there's just something about how Reese is approaching this that seems off. It feels like she's trying too hard. Villians become villians because of their play on the court. Look at Bill Lambeer. He was a villian for dirty play. And then when you asked him about it he would just say, "Yeah, wtf are you going to do about it?" (Ok, maybe not those words but something to that effect). Reese jumped out with the stupid taunting at the national championship game and then gets mouthy on social media. It seems very planned.Disagree completely. I think these issues of quality are short term. The eyes on the league will elevate the level of play, especially as Clark's teams and performance ascends, not to mention the next wave of stars including Watkins, Bueckers on the horizon.
Reese blowsI don't know if I disagree, there's just something about how Reese is approaching this that seems off. It feels like she's trying too hard. Villians become villians because of their play on the court. Look at Bill Lambeer. He was a villian for dirty play. And then when you asked him about it he would just say, "Yeah, wtf are you going to do about it?" (Ok, maybe not those words but something to that effect). Reese jumped out with the stupid taunting at the national championship game and then gets mouthy on social media. It seems very planned.
Reese is basically the jealous girl that lost out on Prom Queen and ran on stage, yanked the winner down by the hair and took her crown and demanded that everyone recognize her as Queen instead.I don't know if I disagree, there's just something about how Reese is approaching this that seems off. It feels like she's trying too hard. Villians become villians because of their play on the court. Look at Bill Lambeer. He was a villian for dirty play. And then when you asked him about it he would just say, "Yeah, wtf are you going to do about it?" (Ok, maybe not those words but something to that effect). Reese jumped out with the stupid taunting at the national championship game and then gets mouthy on social media. It seems very planned.
Says the guy ripping someone he's never met anonymously on the internet.Reese is basically the jealous girl that lost out on Prom Queen and ran on stage, yanked the winner down by the hair and took her crown and demanded that everyone recognize her as Queen instead.
And the sad thing is in our society nowadays, that's what a lot of people are doing...............
That's dumb. I am a diehard 90s Bulls fan - ride or die. But they brought in Rodman and Kukoc. Not sure how that's different from Bosh and Wade.
That's just silly....................I meet everyone anonymously on the internet. Even when they don't realize it.Says the guy ripping someone he's never met anonymously on the internet.
Look in the mirror folks. The problem may just lie within.
Do you know the Internet is optional?That's just silly....................I meet everyone anonymously on the internet. Even when they don't realize it.
Did you give that same advice to Angel Reese?Do you know the Internet is optional?
It's about time the refs started showing some spine. Maybe they missed Angel's statement that she's one of the stars of the league.Reese just got ejected from the Liberty/Sky game. Got called for a 5th foul and then said some things. Ref tossed her.
Such a classless piece of trash.
This is probably the best description right here.Reese is basically the jealous girl that lost out on Prom Queen and ran on stage, yanked the winner down by the hair and took her crown and demanded that everyone recognize her as Queen instead.
And the sad thing is in our society nowadays, that's what a lot of people are doing...............
Based on her public behavior, we don't need to meet her to see who she is, or at least who she wants us to think she is. It's a weird flex if being a douchebag is what she wants people to remember her for, but to each their own I guess.Says the guy ripping someone he's never met anonymously on the internet.
Look in the mirror folks. The problem may just lie within.
Well, at least Kate is getting along really well with her team. Lots of clips on social media of everyone laughing together. It really is night and day from what CC is experiencing.
Good for them. They need a break.Team dinners 🍽...Need Temi back soon, she gives them a boost with her energy.
Great points/summary
And then she didn’t show up at the press conference afterwards. Caitlin has the logo 3 as her signature, Angel’s got the no show.Reese just got ejected from the Liberty/Sky game. Got called for a 5th foul and then said some things. Ref tossed her.
Such a classless piece of trash.