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Yes...actually 300 I just read...hell the county I live in is over 18,000 square miles....with a population around 55,000.
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Damn son. By comparison the town where I live is 3.2 total square miles, with over half of that being water.🤣Yes...actually 300 I just read...hell the county I live in is over 18,000 square miles....with a population around 55,000.
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Not really sure what your point is?Yes...actually 300 I just read...hell the county I live in is over 18,000 square miles....with a population around 55,000.
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With all the secondary explosions I've seen in some of that footage...weapons caches and command and control are probably the likely targets
Yes, Hamas doesn't see them as people. Just possible PR material if killed.
It is a small area...there is not some big built in advantage by it being their home. Israel is going to know that land almost as well as they do.
Fallujah is a quarter the size of Washington D.C. Are you serious?
That leaves a lot of room for activities.Yes...actually 300 I just read...hell the county I live in is over 18,000 square miles....with a population around 55,000.
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I just wanted you to show me any legal source that thinks Israel has to provide material support to their enemy. I get it that is your opinion that they should.
I am always open to being proven wrong...I actually have in the past in this forum...and I accept it when I am.
Feed, cloth and medically help all the women children and elderly. Fighting aged males... sorry.
I would agree. Terrorists don't see people. They see targets to destroy, oftentimes for the pure shock value to meet their objectives.
Never said urban warfare was going to be easy. I am sure that as pretty much every building and structure was built in Gaza...Israel knew about it and probably has either the actual blueprints or ones they made themselves watching it get built.
There will be underground built tunnels and such they do not know about...but I am going to guess that even most of those they know about.
That small of an area very easy to know every physical characteristic.
You make zero sense. You are just guessing at what Israel knows. You are trying to make believe that Gaza is equal to your unincorporated town in Nevada. Again. Gaza is 8 Fallujahs. Do can't be this dense.
It is an educated guess from my time in the Air Force. I know what we knew was pretty comprehensive...and that was in the early 90s.
Somehow I think that Israel is going to know more about 138 square miles of land connected to them than probably most of the people that lives in that 138 square miles does
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It’s incredible over the years I have seen some of my far right MAGA friends and family show how hateful they are….and now I am seeing some far left friends and family do the same thing with their disgusting pro Palestine/anti-Israel messages.
Guess both extremes of the spectrum are awful.
Guess both extremes of the spectrum are awful.
Sure. Sure. Sure. Whatever. Wow.
Ok...not going to subscribe to the NY Times to read an article....but the headline is about urban warfare. Never said urban warfare is easy. I only said that Hamas dies not have a big advantage of knowing the land.
This is not the civil war where the south did have a big advantage knowing the land....modern technology combined with the small area of the land.....combined with it being a flat area without forests covering hills....takes away the knowledge of the land as being some advantage.
Definitely would be tough to go in and try to take a city by ground with the enemy entrenched along the way...though again...Israel will have a much easier time than the US would since the would just takeout the entrenched positions along the way, by air, and not worry about collateral damage.
This is not the civil war where the south did have a big advantage knowing the land....modern technology combined with the small area of the land.....combined with it being a flat area without forests covering hills....takes away the knowledge of the land as being some advantage.
Definitely would be tough to go in and try to take a city by ground with the enemy entrenched along the way...though again...Israel will have a much easier time than the US would since the would just takeout the entrenched positions along the way, by air, and not worry about collateral damage.
Ok ...as I said...didn't read the article...it is behind a paywall and I have no interest in a NY Times subscription.
Ok ... read the article.
It literally states what I said. Not sure what your point is.
SMH.
"It is a small area...there is not some big built in advantage by it being their home. Israel is going to know that land almost as well as they do."
I guess there was no built in advantage in Fullujah as well.
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I honestly don’t have a great idea and am glad I’m not tasked with making decisions.
I generally am in favor of a two-state solution, but hamas is adamantly against it so that’s a non-starter.
The article doesn't speak to that in any way...you sure you know what you read?
The advantage they give Hamas?
Something I already agreed with. As I said it will be much easier for Israel than the US because Israel will not let collateral damage prevent them from doing what the think they need to do.
What. Your original statement was trying to compare your desert spot in Nevada to a densely populated urban Gaza. Then went with there is no built-in advantage for Hamas because Gaza is their home. Now you are just taking a small part of the article that does support your position. There rest of it does not. I really think there is something wrong with you.
The same article:
But the same challenges that kept Israel from invading Gaza before have not gone away. The war, as a result, has the potential to become another case study in the strategic difficulties of urban warfare, as the U.S. experienced in Falluja, Iraq, nearly two decades ago, Israel did in Lebanon during the 1980s and Russia has in Ukraine.
“It’s one of the most complicated fighting scenarios that you can have,” Alex Plitsas of the Atlantic Council told us. “It makes for bloody, awful conflict.”
As I have said all along...I was speaking to your comment about them having an advantage because they know the land.
That is all I was speaking to....all I have been speaking to.
You keep trying alto add more into it for some reason....suddenly off on some urban warfare tangent that has nothing to do with what I said.
Now do the Talmud as it relates to the gentile, especially Christians.They do not consider any Jewish person living in the region to be civilians. It's in their stated goals:
Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology
A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.www.theatlantic.com
Ok summary
You stated they have an advantage because they know the land.
I compared their land size to where I have lived a few years and how much smaller their land is...guess I never threw in a know the land where I live pretty well just from riding 4 wheelers and driving around.
I don't think they have an advantage because they know their land...Israel is going to know their land just as well as they do.
You do land involves cities and buildings right? Hence, urban warfare. I am dumbfounded with you right now.
Is Israel calling for the death of all Christians? I must have missed that.
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