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**** Official Israel War thread****

Interesting story about Israel deploying "Sponge bombs", when they go into Gaza and clear out tunnels. A plastic container has two areas, separated by a metal plate. When the plate is pulled, and the canister thrown the chemicals mix and basically explode into a mass of foam that quickly hardens. The devices will be used to seal off caves.
Bad news, however, they are hard to work with and multiple Israeli soldiers have lost their eyesight training with them.
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/worl...t-weapon-for-inside-hamas-tunnels/ar-AA1iT2oH
 
Steal? The Arab nations attacked Israel and started a war. Israel won. To the victor go the spoils. Should have kicked the Palestinians out the next day.

Even then, Israel ended up giving a huge tract of land they won in that war back to Egypt.

You must be confused. There was no Israel in 1947. Also, conquest is internationally banned. You don't just get to take land because you have a military anymore. This isn't a video game. These are real people. Fathers, daughters, sons, mothers, aunts and uncles. Your view of how the world should work is dangerous.
 
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You must be confused. There was no Israel in 1947. Also, conquest is internationally banned. You don't just get to take land because you have a military anymore. This isn't a video game. These are real people. Fathers, daughters, sons, mothers, aunts and uncles. Your view of how the world should work is dangerous.

North Vietnam taking South Vietnam?

Has anybody informed Russia of this?
 
Exactly. Now you have the answer why a lot of Palestinians have animosity towards Israel.
The two state solution has been negotiated forever. Blame the radical islamists for those peace talks failing. Hamas and Hezzbollah have always been the one that screws over the Palestinian people. Which in turn has gave the world all this modern day violence.

If you want to blame anyone about this if we are going back in time blame the Romans.
 
The two state solution has been negotiated forever. Blame the radical islamists for those peace talks failing. Hamas and Hezzbollah have always been the one that screws over the Palestinian people. Which in turn has gave the world all this modern day violence.

If you want to blame anyone about this if we are going back in time blame the Romans.

Two state solution? Would you agree to live with someone that showed up and kicked you out of your house? Probably not.
 
Literally nobody has the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. If the Arab world and Western left had any actual interest in their plight, they would work for and demand isolation, overthrow and replacement of Hamas and the other Palestinian terrorist leadership. Besides the obvious fact they make a Palestinian state impossible, they are merciless dictatorships who subjugate, exploit, starve and abuse their own people.

Of course, the Israeli right want Hamas and Hezbollah in place as well, because it has totally sidelined the Israeli left who can't credibly work toward peace, and there's virtually no Western call for Palestinian sovereignty now, because the Palestinian leadership are bloodthirsty animals, and they've ensured a poisoned culture of an anti-Semitic death cult among Palestinians.

Those who "support Palestine" should be directed 100% toward freeing the Palestinians from a ruling group of terrorists who decimate their own people while living in luxury in Qatar. But who is trying to do that?

I'm all for exerting pressure on Israel toward a two-state solution, as the U.S. has done in the past. But until there is a leadership in Palestine with actual political goals and will recognize Israel's right to exist...I 100% support Israel's right to defend itself and try to wipe out Hamas.
 
Well, they took Crimea in 2014 and nobody did anything about it. It was straight up allowed.

And widely known as a war crime

 
Conquest has been banned since 1945.

Palestine has a right to return to their land under UN resolutions and international treaties like the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a legally binding international treaty.

Israel are occupiers. This isn't a video game and you are very uninformed.

Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity with impunity.

We are on the wrong side of history supporting them.
No I’m quite well informed actually.

Listen to me closely. In 1947 the UN came up with a plan to divide the area into 2 states. Kinda of a 2 state solution you might say. As soon as Britain and the UN turned over these areas to the Palestinians and the Israelis, Israel declared independence. The Arabs attacked them, otherwise known as, declared war. The Israelis defeated them. After the war was over did you expect the Israelis to say ‘no harm no foul for that war thing’ and just give them back the land? The land that the Palestinians were granted and launched war from?

You don’t get it. They lost. It isn’t their land. Now if they want to declare war, take territory and win it back then have at it. I’ve grown weary of this Palestinian land trope. They’d still have that land and maybe living in peace with Israel but for that world changing decision decades ago. Too f big bad. I couldn’t give 2 shits about the Palestinians. F’ing losers.

Grow a set, kick out your terrorist leaders or jail them, make peace with Israel, form a real country with a real government, acknowledge Israel’s right to exist and create a society that fits in with the rest of the civilized world. That’s the actual answer.
 
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No I’m quite well informed actually.

Listen to me closely. In 1947 the UN came up with a plan to divide the area into 2 states. Kinda of a 2 state solution you might say. As soon as Britain and the UN turned over these areas to the Palestinians and the Israelis, Israel declared independence. The Arabs attacked them, otherwise known as, declared war. The Israelis defeated them in 6 days. After the war was over did you expect the Israelis to say ‘no harm no foul for that war thing’ and just give them back the land? The land that the Palestinians were granted and launched war from?

You don’t get it. They lost. It isn’t their land. Now if they want to declare war, take territory and win it back then have at it. I’ve grown weary of this Palestinian land trope. They’d still have that land and maybe living in peace with Israel but for that world changing decision decades ago. Too f big bad. I couldn’t give 2 shits about the Palestinians. F’ing losers.

Grow a set, kick out your terrorist leaders or jail them, make peace with Israel, form a real country with a real government, acknowledge Israel’s right to exist and create a society that fits in with the rest of the civilized world. That’s the actual answer.

Yeah except that's not how it works. You don't win a war and get to keep the land and if you do it's a war crime. Palestinians have a right to return that Israel is denying them thus committing international crimes by every definition of the term.

It's funny you talk about the civilized world yet somehow believe conquest is a still a thing. Can you imagine what the world would be like if everyone was just allowed to win land by sheer force. What is stopping anyone from taking over your property because they have more guns or are bigger than you? It would be a very uncivilized world we'd be living in.
 
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These are defensive, de-escalatory, deep interdiction missions to protect our sovereign right to partition Syria with military force.

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It's funny you talk about the civilized world yet somehow believe conquest is a still a thing. Can you imagine what the world would be like if everyone was just allowed to win land by sheer force.
What is stopping anyone from taking over your property because they have more guns or are bigger than you? It would be a very uncivilized world we'd be living in.
The Arabs seem to think conquest is still a thing. What more is required?
What do you do about a significantly sized, uncivilized segment of society that is unwilling to accept coexistence, and will fight regardless of concession until ethnic cleansing is achieved?
Do you see any of Russia or China‘s neighbors putting down their guns because we live in a civilized world?

If Israelis lay down their arms, went full pacificist, do you think groups like Hamas would exterminate them? Or is their rhetoric just intended to inflame, and not an actual blueprint of their desires and intentions?

Mein Kampf, but not really. Just a prank, bro?
 
You have no idea what you are talking about.

There is no prohibition of land acquisition in war.
 
Yeah except that's not how it works. You don't win a war and get to keep the land and if you do it's a war crime. Palestinians have a right to return that Israel is denying them thus committing international crimes by every definition of the term.

It's funny you talk about the civilized world yet somehow believe conquest is a still a thing. Can you imagine what the world would be like if everyone was just allowed to win land by sheer force. What is stopping anyone from taking over your property because they have more guns or are bigger than you? It would be a very uncivilized world we'd be living in.
Tell me honestly….Had the Arabs won the war against Israel in 1947, do you think they’d have given land back to Israel after it was over?

There is 100% absolutely no f’ing way they would have. Zero. Never in a million years. Not a chance.

This tells you all you need to know. Now either get on the right side of this or head overseas and join your intifada.
 
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Tell me honestly….Had the Arabs won the war against Israel in 1947, do you think they’d have given land back to Israel after it was over?

There is 100% absolutely no f’ing way they would have. Zero. Never in a million years. Not a chance.

This tells you all you need to know. Now either get on the right side of this or head overseas and join your intifada.

It's not Israel's land. Give it back to who and why?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal...onventions of 1949,and calls for their return".

I have cited every single claim I've made and you literally just spout bullshit without backing it up. Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
 
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That doesn’t look at all like a missile. If it’s a laser guided bomb, like it appears, and he’s calling it a missile….wow. Real expert we have here.
Laser guided bombs usually have a guidance and fin kit on the nose:

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And the fins in the back don't look like JDAM skin to me.

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Kind of looks like a AGM-142 Popeye to me. That's Air Ground Missile 142:

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Maybe you should read the ‘objective viewpoints’ section of the political document you’ve referenced. I think the facts are pretty laid out there.
 
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