I don’t care about the white phosphorus claim, but that’s quite the video though.
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What's the latest on American hostages? Any new info? I'd follow the thread more closely, but it's a typical, politcal clusterfeck.
We’re the largest oil producer in the world since 2018, why do the Democrats have American troops bleeding in foreign oil fields in 2023?
Can we stop trying to regime change/nation build Syria?
Does DraftKings have a betting line on this thing?
I’m ready to take the under on Tlaib denunciations of Hamas.
Would you run a 23 and Me test and think you had a claim to land in Europe from hundreds of years ago that your ancestors used to live on?
That doesn’t seem workable.
I’ve always found it curious that this didn’t work the other way. That natives didn’t have diseases explorers couldn’t handle, or worse brought back to the old country to wipe our Europe instead.
Anyone know of hypotheses behind that?
The black death originated in the Mongolian steppes. Asians brought death to the middle east and Europe.
Not as many came back to the Old World to transmit it?
But how fully? Please outline the things you’ve done personally. Amounts of money and or real property given back. I’ll hang up and listen for your reply.
Gaza hospital deaths reported by Hamas-ISIS was 500.
In reality was closer to 10-50. From their own damn failed rocket. They over reported by a factor of 10-50X. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn the real total was 4.
They cannot be trusted and their reports should be dismissed out of hand.
In reality was closer to 10-50. From their own damn failed rocket. They over reported by a factor of 10-50X. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn the real total was 4.
They cannot be trusted and their reports should be dismissed out of hand.
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Israel went off at 1:9 and the track stopped taking bets because it’s a negative pool
Where in the UN charter does it say we have a right to self defense when we’re invading and partioning another country?
Article 51
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.
This is in reference to attacks on US bases in Syria and Iraq. Nothing to do with Gaza.
If country X invades country Y, can they claim a 'right to self defense' to attack country Y?
On 22 September 2014, Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby confirmed that the United States and partner nations had undertaken airstrikes in Syria using fighters, bombers, and Tomahawk missiles in strikes authorized by President Barack Obama.
In October 2015, 50 U.S. special forces operators were deployed to northern Syria to help train and coordinate anti-ISIL forces in the region.[209]
The introduction of Russian aircraft and ship based cruise missiles in support of the Syrian Government to Syrian airspace created new threats to the U.S.-led coalition. Discussions were held to deconflict Syrian airspace.
On 10 October, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency reported claims that two U.S. F-16 jets had "violated Syrian airspace" and bombed two electricity power plants in al-Rudwaniya, east Aleppo, "in breach of international law".[210]
On 20 October, Canada's Prime Minister-elect Justin Trudeau informed Barack Obama by phone of Canada's intention to pull out of bombing raids in Syria. Canada would remain a coalition partner but will stop strikes.[211]
On 25 April, it was reported that U.S. President Barack Obama authorized the deployment of an additional 250 special operations soldiers to Syria. In the following weeks, they are to join the 50 that are already in the country; their main aim is to advise, assist and expand the ongoing effort to bring more Syrian Arab fighters into units the U.S. supports in northern Syria to combat ISIL
In late May 2016, more than a dozen U.S. special forces troops were seen in the village of Fatisah, less than 64 km (40 mi) north of Raqqa. They were fighting near the front lines with the YPG and wearing both YPG and U.S. insignia on their military uniforms; the operators were helping call in fire support for local SDF forces and coordinating airstrikes from behind the front lines in their advance toward Raqqa. However, the Pentagon and White House insisted that the troops were not fighting ISIL on the front lines and were still participating in a non-combat mission known as "train, advise and assist."[230][231][232]
On 16 September, CNN reported that up to 40 U.S. special forces operators were accompanying Turkish troops and vetted Syrian opposition forces as they cleared ISIL from northern Syria. The mission, called Operation Noble Lance, was authorised that week and was now underway.
On 24 November, the Washington Post reported that Senior Chief Petty Officer Scott C. Dayton of Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit 2 was killed by an IED near Ayn Issa - roughly 35 miles northwest of ISIL's self-proclaimed capital of Raqqa. It was the first time a U.S. service member was killed in Syria since a contingent of SOF was deployed there in October 2015.
Stars and Stripes reported that in November 2016, airmen from the 621st Contingency Response Wing with a contingent of civil engineers, intelligence personnel, and security forces were temporarily deployed to expand and modify the airstrip that the airmen had established earlier in 2016 at an airbase where they deployed to near Kobani, so it can be used to assist in the offensive to retake Raqqa.
On 10 December, it was reported that the U.S. was sending 200 more special operations personnel to Syria, joining the 300 U.S. special forces already in the country.
According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), between 22 September 2014 and 23 January 2017, U.S.-led Coalition airstrikes killed 7,043 people across Syria, of which: 5,768 dead were ISIL fighters, 304 al-Nusra Front militants and other rebels, 90 Syrian government soldiers and 881 civilians.[293]
On 20 January, the Trump administration began overseeing the Syrian intervention.
Okay, but still doesn't explain the battles between US and Russia forces ON THE GROUND under Trump...so it's not just Democrats, MORON
I hold Democrats accountable for getting us in there, because they did, your faulty memory notwithstanding.
Trump ran on a popular platform of getting out of these ”stupid wars” that Democrats like Hillary Clinton seem to love getting us into.
Do you recall the Establishment opposition to our withdrawal from Syria? Trump was practically alone in trying to get us out. Only a handful in D.C. supported it.
Trump’s support was in the public, because it sure as hell wasn’t 40%+ of D.C. in favor of withdrawal.
Now here we are, being attacked in Syria claiming ‘self defense’ to justify our continued attacks in Syria. Do you see any problem with the application of this logic?
I ask again:
If country X invades country Y, can they claim a 'right to self defense' to attack country Y?
Can the interventionists provide their logic on this vis-a-vis existing world conflicts?
So when your country is randomly attacked, your people raped and murdered by the hundreds, you should sit on your hands and do nothing?I hold Democrats accountable for getting us in there, because they did, your faulty memory notwithstanding.
Trump ran on a popular platform of getting out of these ”stupid wars” that Democrats like Hillary Clinton seem to love getting us into.
Do you recall the Establishment opposition to our withdrawal from Syria? Trump was practically alone in trying to get us out. Only a handful in D.C. supported it.
Trump’s support was in the public, because it sure as hell wasn’t 40%+ of D.C. in favor of withdrawal.
Now here we are, being attacked in Syria claiming ‘self defense’ to justify our continued attacks in Syria. Do you see any problem with the application of this logic?
I ask again:
If country X invades country Y, can they claim a 'right to self defense' to attack country Y?
Can the interventionists provide their logic on this vis-a-vis existing world conflicts?
There's some research that suggests that syphilis originated in the new world although I don't know the current thinking.
This arab really doesn’t like the gazans. Wow.
Not sure what to make of that. I generally get uneasy when we someone speaks of an entire group of people in that manner.
Read up on their witness requirements for crimes. 4 witnesses for rape. One man is equal to two women when it comes to being a witness per Islamic law, due to the “deficiency of women”.
Supports of these people have no idea what they are supporting.
Syria hasn’t attacked the U.S.
The U.S. has maintained an invasion and partition of Syria that dates back to the Obama administration.
The U.S. is now claiming it has a ‘right to self defense‘ of its invasion forces in Syria and is thereby justified to attack Syria to protect its invasion forces.
I ask again:
If country X invades country Y, can they claim a 'right to self defense' to attack country Y?
Can the interventionists provide their logic on this vis-a-vis existing world conflicts?
Yeah I’m not saying i agree with him. Simply that the perspective expressed was interesting. Didn’t know any arab felt that way and kind of explains why the Saudis were ready to make peace with the Israelis.
Iran doesn’t want peace, they only want genocide of jews and complete destruction of the Israeli state. They are absolutists and theocratic extremists. They own/control Hezbollah and Hamas. Iran is the big picture belligerent in that region and it is guided by divine righteousness. Not stopping anytime soon.
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