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**** Official Israel War thread****

Now might be a good time for the Palestinians to give up the fight and to surrender. But that's their decision if they want to continue the war on Israel.

Surrender and live in Apartheid conditions or continue to live in refugee camps where a terrorist group will use them as human shields against an military that is indifferent to civilian casualties.

Some real great choices there.
 
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Surrender and live in Apartheid conditions or continue to live in refugee camps where a terrorist group will use them as human shields against an military that is indifferent to civilian casualties.

Some real great choices there.
To me it’s different, Keep doing what you’ve done for 15 years or try something new. To start with they might accept that Jews are human and have the right to exist.
 
This clown of a Senator lies 24/7 so even if true find a better source.
I was watching the NBC news this evening and they said there were 500 or 1000 American citizens in southern Gaza. Seems like Egypt and the US aren’t moving fast enough to bring them home and they stayed that Hamas is blocking foreign citizens from leaving Gaza.
 
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I was watching the NBC news this evening and they said there were 500 or 1000 American citizens in southern Gaza. Seems like Egypt and the US aren’t moving fast enough to bring them home and they stayed that Hamas is blocking foreign citizens from leaving Gaza.

"We're working on this every single day. We have about 400 American citizens and their family members, so it's roughly 1,000 people who are stuck in Gaza and want to get out. I'm focused on this intensely," Blinken said in an exchange with Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., during Tuesday's testimony before the Senate Committee on Appropriations.”

The secretary again cited Hamas as the only hurdle blocking their exit.

"The impediment is simple: It's Hamas. We've not yet found a way to get them out by whatever -- through whatever place and by whatever means that Hamas is not blocking, but we're working that with intermediaries," he continued.
 
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Oh look… antisemitic disinformation.
Why do you presume that?

An official at the Ministry of Intelligence confirmed that the ten-page document is authentic but "was not supposed to reach the media," Mekovit noted.

According to a right-wing activist, the document from the Ministry of Intelligence was leaked by a member of Likud. Leaking the document was an attempt to find out whether "the public in Israel is ready to accept ideas of a transfer from Gaza."
 
Good.
The maroon is Netanyahu and his corrupt, colossal failures.
Girls raped then beheaded.
But Netanyahu=Hamas; Hamas=Netanyahu, right?
I put the terrorist organization Hamas higher on the shit list than Netanyahu...but that's just me. But you do you.
What else would you expect from a guy who thinks Trump supporters are on equal footing with Islamic terrorists?
 
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If Hamas were men, they would either surrender or come out of their rat nest and fight to save the Palestinian people the agony of the war. They will do neither. They will hide hoping the the deaths of the women, children and aged will help them win the PR war.
I don’t expect the IDF to find an unwillingness to fight inside Gaza.
 
There is ALWAYS collateral damage in any military operation. With your philosophy it would be impossible to defend oneself from an enemy as you could never ensure zero collateral damage - especially when your enemy uses human shields. You are most certainly welcome to espouse that philosophy and I wish it was the way all humans treated each other! But in a world where one side will attack, rape, behead, pillage and use innocent human shields your philosophy is extremely naive. It would be the end of Israel as a state.

In saying the above I am NOT condoning the latest refugee bombing, it certainly sounds horrific and I strongly believe Israel must go to greater lengths than Hamas has shown to minimize innocent casualties. But I will also wait a few days to get a full account/judge this action given the exaggerations/misreporting from the hospital bombing a couple weeks ago.
 
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There is ALWAYS collateral damage in any military operation. With your philosophy it would be impossible to defend oneself from an enemy as you could never ensure zero collateral damage - especially when your enemy uses human shields. You are most certainly welcome to espouse that philosophy and I wish it was the way all humans treated each other! But in a world where one side will attack, rape, behead, pillage and use innocent human shields your philosophy is extremely naive. It would be the end of Israel as a state.

In saying the above I am NOT condoning the latest refugee bombing, it certainly sounds horrific and I strongly believe Israel must go to greater lengths than Hamas has shown to minimize innocent casualties. But I will also wait a few days to get a full account/judge this action given the exaggerations/misreporting from the hospital bombing a couple weeks ago.
Trouble is it takes two to tango. Hamas adheres to none of the laws of armed conflict...Israel is held to that standard...why isn't Hamas?

That's the conundrum and what the Hamas apologists won't admit.
 
Trouble is it takes two to tango. Hamas adheres to none of the laws of armed conflict...Israel is held to that standard...why isn't Hamas?

That's the conundrum and what the Hamas apologists won't admit.
Agree with the dilemma. Of course Hamas should be held to the same standard and of course they won’t follow it. I hope Israel pisspounds Hamas out of existence. At the same time I want them to take every reasonable step they can to minimize innocent casualties. Even looking at it practically they would need to do that to ensure international support for the war. It is a conundrum indeed.
 
Agree with the dilemma. Of course Hamas should be held to the same standard and of course they won’t follow it. I hope Israel pisspounds Hamas out of existence. At the same time I want them to take every reasonable step they can to minimize innocent casualties. Even looking at it practically they would need to do that to ensure international support for the war. It is a conundrum indeed.
It's pretty apparent (to me) that Israel won't be able to maintain "international support" and still be able to remove Hamas.

Hamas hides behind their civilians.....

A "cease fire" hands victory to Hamas. It's pretty much a untenable position for Israel....go after Hamas and lose international support because of the resultant civilian casualties....don't go after Hamas and have a terrorist entity on your doorstep planning their next move.

Since "international support" is pretty much a lost cause IMO they have to rely on US support to see this through. Biden has given that support but I think that is going to get severely tested in the coming days and weeks.

We'll see,

I hope we stand behind Israel to do what needs to be done but I have my doubts. In the end it's a political decision and I'd expect polling numbers to start going against Israel in the US the longer this goes....and it's going to be a slow slog for the IDF.

I hope Joe stays the course...
 
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For the record this is what this sick **** responded "Good" to

"more than 420 children are being killed or injured in Gaza every day"​


I bet if these children were white you wouldn't be so apathetic towards them.
No, I’m responding “good” to Israel’s persistence in fighting the war on terror.

I think it is tragic that Hamas uses women and children as collateral damage in attempt to achieve their political ends, but that just speaks even more to how sick and evil they are and why eradicating them from the face of the Earth is paramount.

Your incapacity to understand that is not my problem.
 
No, I’m responding “good” to Israel’s persistence in fighting the war on terror.

I think it is tragic that Hamas uses women and children as collateral damage in attempt to achieve their political ends, but that just speaks even more to how sick and evil they are and why eradicating them from the face of the Earth is paramount.

Your incapacity to understand that is not my problem.
That...and his 420 children a day number is pulled out of Hamas's ass.
 
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