**** Official Israel War thread****
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The endgame for Israel is to continue to exist. What is the endgame for Hamas?
Proof of what Hammas is doing right now across Gaza? No. We don't have Intel like that free flowing right now.
They're a long known militant group with certain behaviors, which includes taking human shields for leverage in conflict
Look, I'm not defending Hamas. They are shit. What I am concerned with is unadulterated view of Israel from the US' perspective. I don't want to write a blank check to the Israelis gov't. I don't trust their government, particularly the current administration.
Is it now our responsibility to fund all the conflicts in the world? I get Ukraine. They are fighting a superpower and need help. Israel is fighting a small gov't that doesn't have a lot of resources so why do they need the same level of help? I'm not on board with this type of funding even if that goes against Biden and his Admin.
Actually, it’s pretty easy. Many Arab nations say they support Palestine. Many Oil rich Arab nations too! All they have to do is send humanitarian ships to the Gaza coast and load up all the women & children. Since they support Palestine, they will have no problem immigrating them into their own countries and supporting them with the various welfare needs they will certainly have.
Turkey has a Navy and they just held the largest Palestinian support rally in the last 24 hrs led by their very sensible leader Erdogan . Just a few hundred miles away! They are probably on their way now I am sure to prove their support!
Also, bombing Gaza is very different from moving into Gaza. That just started, 23 days after the Hamas did very peaceful and friendly things to Israel.
“Hamas is an Islamist militant group based in the Gaza Strip, which has been designated by the US, the EU and other countries as a terrorist group. Hamas has been using human shields in conflicts with Israel since 2007.”
War criminals.
Hamas' most common uses of human shields include:
- Firing rockets, artillery, and mortars from or in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, often from or near facilities which should be protected according to the Geneva Convention (e.g. schools, hospitals, or mosques).
- Locating military or security-related infrastructures such as HQs, bases, armouries, access routes, lathes, or defensive positions within or in proximity to civilian areas.
- Protecting terrorists' houses and military facilities, or rescuing terrorists who were besieged or warned by the IDF.4
- Combating the IDF from or in proximity to residential and commercial areas, including using civilians for intelligence gathering missions.
War criminals.
The Palestinian leadership are terrorists and war criminals.
Does @SI_NYC & @WestCoastHawkI agree they need to be arrested and prosecuted?
Would they like to volunteer to bring Palestinian war criminals to justice?
Friendly reminder after another day of Israel kicking Palestine’s ass, the attack stops when Palestine surrenders, cedes control, and returns the hostages.
And stops firing rockets made out of water pipes that were originally purposed by the international community as humanitarian aid.
And stops firing rockets made out of water pipes that were originally purposed by the international community as humanitarian aid.
Hamas? Yes. Of course. They committed war crimes.
Why do you just believe these statements? Who are these people and what are their motivations?
That’s easy, their endgame is for Israel to not exist. There’s a reason houses in Israel need safe rooms.
Seeing multiple reports that the IDF is entering the Palestinian city of Jennin in the West Bank.
Peaceful civilians greeting their liberators by throwing things at their vehicles.
The Black Hebrew Israelites are a pretty overtly racist group, at least from my experience hearing them talk on the street in nyc.
US House speaker plans vote this week on stand-alone Israel aid bill
Newly installed U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson said on Sunday he expects floor action this week to advance a funding bill to support Israel exclusively, even though President Joe Biden is pushing for a $106 billion aid package for Israel and Ukraine combined.
On a side note...why do "legit" news sources continue to run with casualty figures provided by a terrorist organization? At least they provide a disclaimer now...
In retaliation, Israel has sealed off Gaza and launched a barrage of air strikes on the coastal Palestinian enclave followed by a ground offensive, killing more than 7,000 Palestinians, including nearly 3,000 children, according Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
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Extremely frustrating how the western press continues to cite their numbers. The failure of corporate big profit US news media, be it playing the both sides of Hamas and Israel or both sides of Democrats and Republicans is a big part why we are in this mess, especially at a time of such easy disinformation and propaganda due to social media.US House speaker plans vote this week on stand-alone Israel aid bill
Newly installed U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson said on Sunday he expects floor action this week to advance a funding bill to support Israel exclusively, even though President Joe Biden is pushing for a $106 billion aid package for Israel and Ukraine combined.www.reuters.com
On a side note...why do "legit" news sources continue to run with casualty figures provided by a terrorist organization? At least they provide a disclaimer now...
In retaliation, Israel has sealed off Gaza and launched a barrage of air strikes on the coastal Palestinian enclave followed by a ground offensive, killing more than 7,000 Palestinians, including nearly 3,000 children, according Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
I guess running a disclaimer is better than just running with the numbers as many did with the hospital fiasco last week. Giving Hamas provided propaganda any legitimacy is perplexing though...
A better disclaimer would be to include that Hamas is a terrorist organization.
I like the bitching about communications being disrupted. Yeah, that's typically what you try and do when you are attacking someone. Shocking I know.
Running Hamas figures is like running ISIS provided figures or Nazi provided figures during WW2.
Yet our media outlets do it, why? What is their agenda in reporting obviously inflated numbers as fact?
They should simply state the death toll figures are uncertain and no reliable source is available.
That would be much closer to the truth.
Yet our media outlets do it, why? What is their agenda in reporting obviously inflated numbers as fact?
They should simply state the death toll figures are uncertain and no reliable source is available.
That would be much closer to the truth.
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100%. They would never print numbers offered by a US far right organization/pundit without fact checking - as they should! But Hamas? Totally ok to print with the disclaimer, even though they know the organization is biased with a massive history of lying.
Yeah, at first I thought the disclaimer was a little weird, but it's a happy enough median for me.
And at the end of the day, I'd be surprised if those numbers were wildly off. It's a densely populated territory and there's been a hell of a lot ordnance dropped in there. Even accepting their numbers, to be honest, the stronger inference IMO is that the Israelis have, in fact, sought to be fairly targeted in their strikes. I could easily imagine much higher numbers if they were just acting indiscriminately. And that's on top of the warnings/advisories to move south.
Really weird our Jewish controlled media isn’t more sympathetic towards the Israeli point of view.
/sarcasm
Why don’t you attempt to address her assertions instead of attacking her?
Will Hamas use any ceasefire to prepare their next attack, yes or no?
From my memory, they were racist mostly to whites, but it could be to all non-blacks.
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As a Democrat, I would actually vote for MTG’s censure of Tlaib. It’s pretty comical that it is coming from MTG though.
Frankly I would like to throw the squad, MTG, Goetz, Boebert and any other MAGA nuts out of Congress completely.
This whole conflict and the Squad’s various comments have opened my eyes that they are no different than the MAGA nuts…
Frankly I would like to throw the squad, MTG, Goetz, Boebert and any other MAGA nuts out of Congress completely.
This whole conflict and the Squad’s various comments have opened my eyes that they are no different than the MAGA nuts…
Better to kill them all Hillary? I challenge anyone to go to Instagram, type in ‘Gaza’ and scroll through the reels. After which, come here and praise Israel for not letting up as Clinton suggests.
They dropped over 7000 bombs/missiles in a densely populated area. Why would you think the numbers are inflated? See my post above showing before/after on one area in Gaza.
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