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And if this is truly the plan - Gabe, Kennedy, Nelson battle it out for 174 - that leaves us with an undersized 184 if one of them bumps up.

le sigh.
184 has been neglected since cash wilke was the starter, until bringing in Angelo. I know Abe was #1 184 in his class, but didn’t pan out
 
I still say he transfers if he redshirts
Certainly possible. If Angelo wins the room but is forced to shirt, resentment could fester in a proud, talented kid denied what he’d earned. Luckily, like @12tdsaw wisely notes, a shirt fills a fifth bag. Might be tough watching a guy he beat get to wrestle next March, but cashing CEO-like checks at age 18 just to train ain’t so bad either. With two wayward sons in seeming tailspins, daddy nilbucks (as if he doesn’t have a say) may even prefer the financial windfall of delaying Angelo’s career.
 
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Certainly possible. If Angelo wins the room but is forced to shirt, resentment could fester in a proud, talented kid denied what he’d earned. Luckily, like @12tdsaw wisely notes, a shirt fills a fifth bag. Might be tough watching a guy he beat get to wrestle next March, but cashing CEO-like checks at age 18 just to train ain’t so bad either. With two wayward sons in seeming tailspins, daddy nilbucks (as if he doesn’t have a say) may even prefer the financial windfall of delaying Angelo’s career.
A great thing about Tom and the staff, is they have very open communication with the wrestlers. There aren't any secrets or surprises getting thrown at them.
 
And if this is truly the plan - Gabe, Kennedy, Nelson battle it out for 174 - that leaves us with an undersized 184 if one of them bumps up.

le sigh.

Nelson would not be undersized for 184. He weighs in the 90s and his fatboy weight is like most of our’s “in shape” weight. He climbs mountains for fun plus his favorite cereal is grape nuts ffs.
 
Nelson would not be undersized for 184. He weighs in the 90s and his fatboy weight is like most of our’s “in shape” weight. He climbs mountains for fun plus his favorite cereal is grape nuts ffs.

Grape nuts aside, you’re not paying attention. If he wants to wrestle 174, he’s going to get smaller and will be smaller in October. And typically, we don’t settle tough weights until midlands.

So in December (worst case scenario), or October (best case scenario) Nelson will be weighing 174.

Bumping up, he’ll be undersized for a time.
 
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Well hell…those are bettin words.$100 says NB goes 184. Proceeds to the HwC or wrestling for life since you aren’t a Hawk fan.
Wait, wait, wait. Why would I make this bet?

I WANT Nelson at 184!

And again, not sure when you guys decided I’m not a Hawk fan. There’s a reason I get Hawk news. I’m a huge Hawk fan, and have to the initial fundraiser started on this board. Stop confusing my wishes for TNT to change or get gone with me not being a fan.

And yes. I wrestled for the hawks/brands with Borschel, metcalf and the rest.
 
Wait, wait, wait. Why would I make this bet?

I WANT Nelson at 184!

And again, not sure when you guys decided I’m not a Hawk fan. There’s a reason I get Hawk news. I’m a huge Hawk fan, and have to the initial fundraiser started on this board. Stop confusing my wishes for TNT to change or get gone with me not being a fan.

And yes. I wrestled for the hawks/brands with Borschel, metcalf and the rest.
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Wait, wait, wait. Why would I make this bet?

I WANT Nelson at 184!

Well either you're right or wrong. If NB goes down and wrestles 174, you were right. My opinion is the comment was just Nelson being Nelson and he ends up going 84. Now I could see it if there has been a season ending injury there and he somehow makes the cut but it's been awhile and it will be quite a haul for him.


As far as your fandom being questioned, I just figured you weren't because of many posts. A thousand pardons, sir. Also, I believe I have read that you don't think the HWC is a good steward of their $$ so I offered Big Jim and his org as a polite out for you.

I'm good giving to either org.
 
Well either you're right or wrong. If NB goes down and wrestles 174, you were right. My opinion is the comment was just Nelson being Nelson and he ends up going 84. Now I could see it if there has been a season ending injury there and he somehow makes the cut but it's been awhile and it will be quite a haul for him.


As far as your fandom being questioned, I just figured you weren't because of many posts. A thousand pardons, sir. Also, I believe I have read that you don't think the HWC is a good steward of their $$ so I offered Big Jim and his org as a polite out for you.

I'm good giving to either org.
He’s a Hawk. That’s a step or two above fandom. His posts and views come from within. And that surprises you…
 
Wait, wait, wait. Why would I make this bet?

I WANT Nelson at 184!

And again, not sure when you guys decided I’m not a Hawk fan. There’s a reason I get Hawk news. I’m a huge Hawk fan, and have to the initial fundraiser started on this board. Stop confusing my wishes for TNT to change or get gone with me not being a fan.

And yes. I wrestled for the hawks/brands with Borschel, metcalf and the rest.
Once a Hawk always a Hawk.
 
Well either you're right or wrong. If NB goes down and wrestles 174, you were right. My opinion is the comment was just Nelson being Nelson and he ends up going 84. Now I could see it if there has been a season ending injury there and he somehow makes the cut but it's been awhile and it will be quite a haul for him.


As far as your fandom being questioned, I just figured you weren't because of many posts. A thousand pardons, sir. Also, I believe I have read that you don't think the HWC is a good steward of their $$ so I offered Big Jim and his org as a polite out for you.

I'm good giving to either org.

The "how" of being a good steward isn't my issue. It's the "who." Specifically AJ and specifically not going out and building the RTC. While I understand the motivation to only make it a HAWKeye Wrestling Club - we could do more with more. We have the money to have as good an RTC as Carl, but that would require Tom and Terry actually giving more a f*ck about it being that.

They did a good job hiring Perry, and with as much time as they spend making the college team, I think they need to go that route again. A true RTC coach that can draw athletes from other programs who want to commit to 1 or more Olympic cycles. Regardless of the PTSD Perry likely gave TNT, its worth it.
 
I checked the roster for a Hawkeye wrestler who graduated from VHS and couldn’t find anyone. You’re very tricky…maybe it’s a reference to moving on from VHS to DVD or Blu-ray ;)

Yeah. not sure anyone would get the reference for my username. LOL
 
Pyles, stop lying. you never wrestled with Borschel.
If Willie says this is true...then I gotta believe its Pyles.... and if that is the case then he deserves all the crap people throw at him for his lop sided broadcasts about Iowa and for always stirring the negative Iowa rumor kettle to fuel the fire in this cesspool. AND YET... with that being said... I still like Pyles TEN TIMES more than Shat Minnow...
 
If Willie says this is true...then I gotta believe its Pyles.... and if that is the case then he deserves all the crap people throw at him for his lop sided broadcasts about Iowa and for always stirring the negative Iowa rumor kettle to fuel the fire in this cesspool. AND YET... with that being said... I still like Pyles TEN TIMES more than Shat Minnow...
What Willie says can be true and what vhs says can still be true, moran. Lol
 
And yes. I wrestled for the hawks/brands with Borschel, metcalf and the rest.

Joe Slaton, is that you? Come on in and get that last year knocked out...we've been waiting. ;)

Seriously though, I guess I would have questions. I get that some fans and former wrestlers may not like Tom/Terry or both. I also understand that some of its not personal. That happens in any sport/org. But as a former wrestler, you have put a lot of rumors out on the street in regards to the program; some accurate, some not (I get that shit changes)...most of it not in a good light. Do you leverage your status as a former Hawk to get this info and do the people that share it know it is you putting it out there? Also, have you spoke to Tom? Finally, why not put your name to it at this point? BTW, I do believe your claim to being a former Hawk. You haven't tried to Grammarnazi me so I discounted Pyles awhile bck 😂 Thanks for that though Willie.

I guess I am old school and a water's edge type of guy so I guess I don't see how this helps the program you used to be in.
 
Joe Slaton, is that you? Come on in and get that last year knocked out...we've been waiting. ;)

Seriously though, I guess I would have questions. I get that some fans and former wrestlers may not like Tom/Terry or both. I also understand that some of its not personal. That happens in any sport/org. But as a former wrestler, you have put a lot of rumors out on the street in regards to the program; some accurate, some not (I get that shit changes)...most of it not in a good light. Do you leverage your status as a former Hawk to get this info and do the people that share it know it is you putting it out there? Also, have you spoke to Tom? Finally, why not put your name to it at this point? BTW, I do believe your claim to being a former Hawk. You haven't tried to Grammarnazi me so I discounted Pyles awhile bck 😂 Thanks for that though Willie.

I guess I am old school and a water's edge type of guy so I guess I don't see how this helps the program you used to be in.

He’s not an insider. He’s posted inside info in the past that didn’t come from within the program and had to delete. He has also been way off on things he claimed were inside. Might be a former wrestler. No idea.

Signed,
Not an Insider
 
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