Fantastic careers are for record breakers and championships. They had good careers but i wouldn't argue with anyone that said they underachieved. Maybe not Warner, but Kemmdog should of had at least one Ship!.
I feel like that has been fantasied about on here for a while now. l Hard to believe it will happen anytime soon. Be really cool though.
i think kem and warner had terrific careers...but i'm not a top PFP recruit
What percentage of DI college wrestlers win a title? I will give you a hint, it is ridiculously small....
I sure as HELL don't think they look at them and scream FAILURE....
no on is saying that, they also are not screaming " Wow they are proof i can get it done at Iowa"
Iowa should and will be held to a high standard. 2 national champions in 10 years is unacceptable. The moral victory thinking is for the football and basketball programs at Iowa.
He will be Coleman Scott’s Spencer Lee. Let’s see what happens there.
Eff that. How about being Spencer Lee and Tom Brands' Jax Forrest? If we're getting outpitched by Coleman effing Scott for a premier lightweight recruit, then it truly is time to move on. They had Fix for 6 years (yes i k ow Scott just came back but still, its okie st) and Fix couldnt win a single title. If there's one thing TnT have proven its the ability to develop lightweight champions. Wtf is going on that we can't dominate recruiting even in those 2 weight classes?
I was thinking the same thing earlier. Thanks for confirming.
How in the hell did a stand out Pennsylvania wrestler get in deep with OSU from a young age?? I could understand PSU. Biggest nightmare would be him talking Basset into following him there. And what has Scott done as a coach or competitor that would make recruits flock to him ???
Jax Forrest moved to PA in 7th grade from North Carolina. Coleman Scott was UNC's head coach then. Coleman Scott left UNC and now seems to be John Smith's successor at OSU.
It’s 83% about building relationships. The other half is pure luck.
So Scott is a great salesman. If you are able to sell guys like Lockett and Forrest, who will be great no matter who the coach is, recruits will start thinking your a great coach, and it just builds on itself then. Makes me sick to think OSU may pass us again soon.🤮
Kem would have if not for CStar. Turns out he was/is pretty good. Sometimes studs end up with all-timers at their weight. See the Hidlay brothers. It isn't always black and white.
I heard different. He is a NC kid and Scott was at UNC and had a big following. Who knows rumors are everywhere.
I think the kid from Don Bosco Iowa with a couple titles look and say “wow, sign me up”
In a conversation with the Father of a starter on our team. He point blank said, “Brands gets a bad rap from people who think he makes our guys wrestle with injuries, it’s just not true” He also said, “Brands make them sit even if they want to go.”
I legit said he would have been a 4 timer. Without covid, he would have been one without an asterisk. I have no doubt. I never said it was easy, but coming out of high school would you have put money on Starocci being a 4 timer over Spencer?
As usual your reading comprehension and deductive reasoning skills are terrible. I didn’t say that it’s just “ok”. Plenty of times I have said Iowa needs more champs. My argument has been about individual results vs just team results. So, that doesn’t mean that you act like they failed with guys that were Finalists and 4x AA’s. That is what I have been fighting back against. The ridiculous absolutism. 1st or last is a blind fan mentality and, as a former wrestler, I buck against it very hard.
I was mentioning more of the fact that Kaleb beat Trent twice his senior year.
That’s not fair - they took away Daton’s wonder juice…
