Ohio State vs Penn State? Who ya got?

[overeasy]

Were the Iowa teams that peaked at NCAA's juggernauts throughout the regular season? Wasn't one of their best performances as a pretty significant underdog?

Most of Iowa's championships teams actually were juggernauts throughout the season. Kurdelmeier won 2 titles in 75 & 76, losing only one dual meet. Gable won 15 titles, going undefeated 7 years and losing just one meet in each of the other 8 championship seasons. Tom Brands has won 3 titles, and during those seasons lost just one meet -- going 68-1. Jim Zalesky's record is the abberation: He won 3 titles from 1998-2000, but lost 3 meets in '98 and 4 in '99. Iowa did go undefeated in 2000.

Winning as a significant underdog would probably apply to the 1998 and 1999 teams (OSU was undefeated both seasons and Minnesota lost twice in both years). Winning as a bit of an underdog would probably apply to 1997 -- when Iowa lost once to OSU but blew everybody out at the championships and set the all-time scoring record.

So, it's interesting. Kurdelmeier, Gable, and Brands have 20 NCCA titles. During those 20 championship years, Iowa won 355 dual meets and lost 10. Zalesky won 3 titles, and went 44-7 during those 3 years.

 

[pablow]

125 - NATO by fall (He knows what's needed) 6-0 OSU
133 - Pletcher by major (Could be decision) 10-0 OSU
141 - Lee by decision (Definitely a toss-up) 10-3 OSU
149 - Zain by fall (Could be TF) 10-9 OSU
157 - Nolf by major (Could be TF or Fall) 13-10 PSU
165 - Joseph by major (Could be decision) 17-10 PSU
174 - Hall by decision (Definitely a toss-up) 20-10 PSU
184 - Nickal by decision (Could go other way, could be bonus) 23-10 PSU
197 - Moore by decision (Rasheed is dangerous) 23-13 PSU
285 - Snyder by major (Could be TF) 23-17 PSU

You're cheating - except for Nato, you've got caveats on all your picks. Your bookie will laugh at this.

 

[mvattivo]

You're cheating - except for Nato, you've got caveats on all your picks. Your bookie will laugh at this.

Very true. My picks are what aren't in the comments. I guess I'm just admitting that this could go a lot of different ways..

 

[pablow]

Very true. My picks are what aren't in the comments. I guess I'm just admitting that this could go a lot of different ways..

I actually like your picks. I think fOSU is going to strategize too much and get their asses handed to them.

 

[woodsiding]

I am sorry. I meant to include 133. Now that they have pulled Lee's shirt, they are NOT on a down year. In fact, I would argue that Iowa will outscore most, if not all, of their NCAA point totals since their last championship in 2010.

It wouldn't shock me one bit if Mckenna got through Meredith or Jack to reach the finals either.

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

It wouldn't shock me one bit if Mckenna got through Meredith or Jack to reach the finals either.

Wouldn’t shock me either but he’s not exactly the best scrambler which plays very well into Meredith’s game and that switch that Jack immediately goes to from bottom and in takedown situations could hurt him as well.

 

[rossel 33]

125 - NATO by fall (He knows what's needed) 6-0 OSU
133 - Pletcher by major (Could be decision) 10-0 OSU
141 - Lee by decision (Definitely a toss-up) 10-3 OSU
149 - Zain by fall (Could be TF) 10-9 OSU
157 - Nolf by major (Could be TF or Fall) 13-10 PSU
165 - Joseph by major (Could be decision) 17-10 PSU
174 - Hall by decision (Definitely a toss-up) 20-10 PSU
184 - Nickal by decision (Could go other way, could be bonus) 23-10 PSU
197 - Moore by decision (Rasheed is dangerous) 23-13 PSU
285 - Snyder by major (Could be TF) 23-17 PSU

I think your picks for winners are just about right.

Agree there are some tossups. BoJo was hampered by foot problems in past, and I predict he'll upset Hall.

 

[MARION_HAWK]

Tomato has 13 career falls so TF more likely

 

[mvattivo]

I think your picks for winners are just about right.

Agree there are some tossups. BoJo was hampered by foot problems in past, and I predict he'll upset Hall.

Yeah, I think out of my picks, this would be my order of likelihood of the other guy winning (why not, I"m bored)

1. Jordan over Hall (I think this one is so close 51/49 for Hall)
2. McKenna over Lee (I like Lee, have it like 60/40 for him)
3. Martin over Nickal (I like Bo 70/30, but, these matches are crazy)
4. Rasheed over Moore (I've got More at 80/20)
5. Keener over Pletcher (85/15 Pletcher)
6. Campbell over Joseph (90/10 Joseph)
7. Jordan over Nolf (97/3 Nolf)
8 (tie). Nato over Kuhn/Schnupp (99.9/0.1)
Hayes over Retherford (99.9/0.1)
Nevills over Snyder (99.9/0.1)

 

[bphawkeye_Rivals]

I predict Snyder wins











.... The Meet for tOSU in a close one.

 

[grapplefann]

From my spot on the couch it appeared that your Hawks exposed some conditioning and getting out from bottom issues with the Bucknuts. Not a good recipe for wrestling PSU.

From my spot on the couch, it appears that you only have 34 messages and that means you are trolling.

 

[fleming24]

125--tOsu by tech 5-0
133--tOsu by major 9-0
141--Penn St by dec 9-3
149--Penn St by fall 9-9
157--Penn St by major 9-13
165--Penn St by major 9-17
174--Penn St by dec 9-20
184--tOsu by dec 12-20
197--tOsu by Dec 15-20
HWT-tOsu by tech 20-20
Penn State wins on criteria 21-20 (most falls)

 

[funkisfun12]

From my spot on the couch, it appears that you only have 34 messages and that means you are trolling.

So pointing out that Iowa exposed Ohio State's conditioning issues and problems getting out from bottom, on an Iowa message board, is trolling? I get it, you guys get a lot posters with ill intent over here, making some of you a bit hypersensitive (obviously you are included in that), but that was not my intent. Lighten up Francis.