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Ok Trumpers: How much do you want trump to spend to mass deport 12 million people

That would be stupid, and you're the first one to advocate for anything like that. Want to make that new Dem policy?
Actually, it IS the GOP policy assuming Trump sets it. Trump personally said DENATURALIZATION. The majority of voters voted for this so why would you not want it implemented? Tell me in what I said isn't Trump's campaign agenda other than focusing denaturalization on those who voted for him.
 
In the mid-20th century, the US deported over a million Mexicans during Operation "Wetback." 70 years later, with modern technology and an unfettered authoritarian government that controls all three branches of government, the Supreme Court, and most of the South, it's not unrealistic for them to deport at least that many.
 
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Interesting read here on why Trump won’t be able to do a fraction of the deporting he wants to. Unless he, you know, goes full Trump.


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History has shown it can be done and if trump uses the military it absolutely can be done. All trump has to do is tell his militia to help out and there will be people going door to door and removing families. Anyone who thinks it can't be done is extremely naive.

JFC. THIS is what we knew was coming. Is other than the MAGAs think the Republican Nazi party is even contemplating only illegal aliens?
 
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Forget the tomatoes, there won't be any food to put the tomatoes on.

I just want to point out that the farms were doing just fine in 2020 with the immigration numbers where they were at. If the 8-10 million that have come here since that time end up leaving, the farms will still be just fine. It’s a dumb scare tactic.
 
Estimates are almost half a trillion dollars. And where is he getting the people power to do the arrests. As was mentioned, ICE/police etc usually have about 5 officers to every person they are detaining so 5 times 12 million is either 60 million ICE/Police to do the deportation all at once or taking all the ICE and police out of their normal duties and using all the armed forces to do it over 2 to 4 years.

Oh and by the way, I cant wait to see what is Tariff and other economic policies are. Are all of you hoping for 20% tariffs on all imports??????
Twenty to 40% tariffs will make prices jump so high people will be wanting back the days of 9% inflation and price gouging.
So you are asking how Trump is going to pay for Kamala’s incompetence? Priceless!!!
 
I just want to point out that the farms were doing just fine in 2020 with the immigration numbers where they were at. If the 8-10 million that have come here since that time end up leaving, the farms will still be just fine. It’s a dumb scare tactic.

So you're thinking that trump is only going to deport people who came after 2020? As far as scare tactics go, I didn't create it, trump did and over 50% voted for it. It's not a scare tactic, it's what trump claims he's going to do. RvW was supposedly a scare tactic too, how'd that turn out. You voted for it, what are your expectations?
 
As was mentioned, ICE/police etc usually have about 5 officers to every person they are detaining so 5 times 12 million is either 60 million ICE/Police to do the deportation all at once

Yes, excellent analysis.
It will happen ‘all at once’. Probably done by the end of the first week. :rolleyes:

Honestly, this reads like the Holocaust denial that there weren’t enough trains in Germany.
 
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Here's the thing. We don't know what his plan is. He ran on fixing the border but never bothered to outline how he will go about doing it.
I was born into a middle class family where my mother wasn’t able to buy a home until I was a teenager.
 
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Will they show up at some of these large employers of illegals and pretty much shut them down? That will have quite the negative ripple effect, especially many smaller Iowa communities where these businesses are located.
 
Actually, it IS the GOP policy assuming Trump sets it. Trump personally said DENATURALIZATION. The majority of voters voted for this so why would you not want it implemented? Tell me in what I said isn't Trump's campaign agenda other than focusing denaturalization on those who voted for him.
Denaturalization is the law already for people who obtained their citizenship fraudulently.


The Denaturalization Consequences of Guilty Pleas​

20 OCT 2020
Amber Qureshi
ABSTRACT. The Obama and Trump Administrations have engaged in a systematic effort to revoke the citizenship of foreign-born U.S. citizens. The denaturalization program has targeted naturalized citizens who allegedly committed a crime before obtaining citizenship but were arrested for that crime post naturalization. The federal government is pursuing denaturalization on the basis that these citizens committed fraud during the naturalization process by failing to disclose their criminal conduct.
 
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Will they show up at some of these large employers of illegals and pretty much shut them down? That will have quite the negative ripple effect, especially many smaller Iowa communities where these businesses are located.

If trump does what he claims he's going to do, you would expect those employers to be impacted. It doesn't matter if they show up at the place of business or at the homes where they live. If it's a smaller community, it won't be hard to find them. Everyone claims they voted on the economy, I'm sure removing workers is going to be fantastic for the economy. Give the people what they want.
 
Wow, shortsighted is dumbsighted. The technological and economic results and flowback to our economy from NASA have far outweighed those direct costs of the manned space program in computers, miniaturization, materials science, Comms, lenses, and a whole range of hundreds of items that have boosted this economy. So dont go there.

And no one wonders how you can deport illegals because it is easy. You find them through payroll records etc from the business owners who illegally hired them and you go get them and you bus them down to the border and you deport them.

But it will take alot of people power to capture and time and money to deport.

It isnt the how, it is the cost of doing it and the cost to the economy when the lettuce and citrus fruits etc dont get harvested and all the manual labor doesnt get done. Hell I am old but when there isnt anyone around to shingle your house I will do it for $40 an hour!!!
Not true. You have more than made my point. There is plenty of manpower to deport. Do you have any clue how many law enforcement encounters there are on a daily basis with illegal?

Lets just skip the fact in my post where I said they will allow some illegals to obtain green card status. Those that have no ties to criminal activity will be allowed to pick your lettuce legally.

When you so badly overthink an issue to prove your right, you got lost and started slinging mud at me. The point was, we can put a person on the moon, but will not be able to figure out how to deport people. Money! Well this country waste's more and wants more.

If you would have spent more time thinking then figuring out how to make yourself smarter, you would have figured out the ironies of my post.

If you are willing to shingle my metal roof for $40 dollars an hour, you have undercut the hard working legal migrants that are shingling for no less than $65 an hour and sending $35 an hour of that back to their families in their home countries. They are here legally making an honest living and will not be deported.

Unless you belong to the Amish community that roofed my place, you aren't stepping near my house. My landscaper who is here legally from Cuba, may have an issue with you...Don't forget the fine Southern migrant who cleans my house, she came from Louisiana...
 
Actually, it IS the GOP policy assuming Trump sets it. Trump personally said DENATURALIZATION. The majority of voters voted for this so why would you not want it implemented? Tell me in what I said isn't Trump's campaign agenda other than focusing denaturalization on those who voted for him.
He's not talking about pulling anyone's citizenship away from them. Stop believing everything MSNBC tells you.
 
So the question is how is Trump going to fix Biden/Kamala mess? How about you don’t leave the border open for 3.5 years and let 7-12k people in a day.

So then why run for president if you're unable to fix the problem?
 
Posted this in another thread but the answer is to deport those caught committing crimes. And I'm not talking about speeding or smoking weed... But any undocumented immigrant caught committing serious misdemeanors or felonies need to serve their punishment then be sent home. You say you came here for a better life, fine, be productive and stay out of trouble. But come here and be a criminal, you're out.
 
Jail sentences for business owners and farmers who hire them.
Grain farmers aren’t hiring them unless they’re really big outfits. I personally know a guy that employs at least 10 of them and keeps them in a $800k house on his compound.
 
FYI, you need to read my other posts, I'm not a MAGA so I didn't say anything about a wall. History has shown that by incorporating the military and the general public, a race of people can be round up. When trump wanted to build a wall it wasn't that big of a deal because it was just wasted money. With his deportation plan he has taken it to a new level and not only will it cost money, it will impact many people negatively in many different ways.
It was derided at the time as “wasted money” but reports say that in areas that have a wall it’s been effective.
 
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FYI, you need to read my other posts, I'm not a MAGA so I didn't say anything about a wall. History has shown that by incorporating the military and the general public, a race of people can be round up. When trump wanted to build a wall it wasn't that big of a deal because it was just wasted money. With his deportation plan he has taken it to a new level and not only will it cost money, it will impact many people negatively in many different ways.
Actually history has shown that the military, while exceptionally good at many things, is not good at rounding up people hiding in plain site. That was pretty much our problem in Afghanistan.
 
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Wait until they teach em how to spray for la cucarochas. They’ll work cheap…just sayin’…
Great. Not worried in the least. I’d be more worried about the lazy scumbag American worker trying to replace them. We’ve gone through plenty of them already due to horrible work ethic. Give me one of the “illegals” and I know they’d show up every day ready to go.
 
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1. Cut off all government benefits to illegals.
2. Fully Enforce the laws that prevent companies from hiring illegals and up the penalties and fines for non-compliance.
3. Offer the illegals one opportunity to leave on their own with assistance and they will have the opportunity to apply for legal entry.
& inform those that need to be deported will never have the opportunity to apply through legal means in the future.
4. Re-assign the 87,000 new IRS agents we are already paying to go after citizens and re-assign them to ICE.
 
trump and musk say they'll reduce government headcount by 50%, i'll randomly say that's 200K bureaucrat jobs eliminated.
trump also will eject 10M illegals. i'll randomly say at least one additional LEO will be needed per 50 illegals to round up and eject, so 200K leo jobs created.
in 4 years time we'll have a quasi military force in place of benign cubicle workers and the sociology of this will be interesting to say the least.
 
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I just want to point out that the farms were doing just fine in 2020 with the immigration numbers where they were at. If the 8-10 million that have come here since that time end up leaving, the farms will still be just fine. It’s a dumb scare tactic.

Farm subsidies went from 4 billion a year in Trumps first year to 20 billion a year his final year. I guess you could say “farms were doing just fine” as long as the taxpayers were footing their bills.
 
trump and musk say they'll reduce government headcount by 50%, i'll randomly say that's 200K bureaucrat jobs eliminated.
trump also will eject 10M illegals. i'll randomly say at least one additional LEO will be needed per 50 illegals to round up and eject, so 200K leo jobs created.
in 4 years time we'll have a quasi military force in place of benign cubicle workers and the sociology of this will be interesting to say the least.
None of it is workable in reality without going the full Nazi route and busting down millions of doors dragging people away with little to no due process with an ungodly amount of brutality. Clusterfvck would be a nice way to describe it.
 
History has shown it can be done and if trump uses the military it absolutely can be done. All trump has to do is tell his militia to help out and there will be people going door to door and removing families. Anyone who thinks it can't be done is extremely naive.
Yeah, the nazis tried it. The issue with plans like this is where to those people go? What countries are going to take bus? train? plane loads of 25 million people?
The reason the nazi's called it the 'final solution' is because the first solution was to deport all the jews and other 'undesirables'. When no one would take them they started killing them.
So...who is going to take 25 million 'illegals'?
 
It was derided at the time as “wasted money” but reports say that in areas that have a wall it’s been effective.

As an independent I have mixed feeling on the wall. But I do have thoughts about a guy claiming he was going to build the wall and have mexico pay for and we ended up paying for it. What that tells me is, he going to do "all these great things" and guess who has to pay for it.
 
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Actually history has shown that the military, while exceptionally good at many things, is not good at rounding up people hiding in plain site. That was pretty much our problem in Afghanistan.
I have a feeling that trump won't be so selective on who he grabs. There's going to be a lot of profiling going on and then they'll sort it out at a detention center. I hope those people are carrying their "papers".
 
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