Oklahoma makes teaching the Bible mandatory in all schools

[IACub]

As soon as the Satanist jump in this will change. Will cost the taxpayers of OK millions.

It's Oklahoma, though. The Satanists will be barred from court by armed MAGAs and no one will bat an eye. Welcome to New America.

 

[BioHawk]

And now the State of Oklahoma gets to spend millions of dollars defending this completely unconstitutional decision. For complaining about governments wasting money all the time Republicans sure do like to waste money all the time.

 

[DooBi]

How stupid.

 

[fsu1jreed]

I used to believe things like this were unfathomable. It’s reprehensible at best.

The GOP has been saying this shit for decades

 

[ericram]

It's Oklahoma, though. The Satanists will be barred from court by armed MAGAs and no one will bat an eye. Welcome to New America.

Nah.. Just watch

 

[ft254]

Honestly, it’s too bad the states aren’t more aligned geographically on one side or the other. Two countries would probably be better.

Not that extreme of an argument. The red states are wacko enough to want another civil war. Racist, white nationalists, women haters (don't deny it) low educated goofballs. Bibles in schools. Book bans. Moral imposition creeps least capable of defining moral values.

Fcvk the red neck morons.

 

[SSG T]

What are OK public schools ranked?

Hey righties, this is what indocrination looks like

 

[SSG T]

BTW, this 30 year old song keeps getting more and more relevant every f***ing year

 

[Chishawk1425]

The right is fighting the culture war at the state level, who goes into office in Nov doesn't really matter.

Local elections absolutely matter as well so my comment covers all levels.

 

[Jan Itor]

All Oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the Bible and the Ten Commandments in their curriculums, effective immediately, the state’s chief education officer announced in a memorandum Thursday.

At a State Board of Education meeting, Oklahoma State Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said the Bible is “one of the most foundational documents used for the Constitution and the birth of our country.”

“It’s crystal clear to us that in the Oklahoma academic standards under Title 70 on multiple occasions, the Bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country, to have a complete understanding of Western civilization, to have an understanding of the basis of our legal system,” Walters said.

Every classroom in the state must have a Bible and all teachers must teach from the Bible in the classroom, Walters said.

The Oklahoma memorandum follows a law in Louisiana passed June 19, that requires all public classrooms to display the Ten Commandments. A group of Louisiana parents and civil rights organizations are suing the state over the new law, contending the legislation violates both US Supreme Court precedent and the First Amendment.

Oklahoma’s directive “is in alignment with the educational standards approved on or about May 2019, with which all districts must comply,” according to a news release.

“The Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone,” Walters said in the release. “Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation. This is not merely an educational directive but a crucial step in ensuring our students grasp the core values and historical context of our country.”

The new memo comes after the Oklahoma Supreme Court blocked an effort to establish the first publicly funded religious charter school in the country. The court on Tuesday ordered the state to rescind its contract with St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School in a 6-2 decision with one recusal.

“Under Oklahoma law, a charter school is a public school,” wrote Justice James R. Winchester for the court. “As such, a charter school must be nonsectarian. However, St. Isidore will evangelize the Catholic faith as part of its school curriculum while sponsored by the State.”

Walters called the ruling “one of the worst” decisions the state Supreme Court has made and pledged to “fight back.”

“What the court did was rule against the parents of Oklahoma who have demanded more choices for their kids. We have a great opportunity to make sure that parents have the most options of any parents in the country here in Oklahoma, by giving them the ability to go to a public school, charter schools, private schools, this would have been the most unique charter school in the country,” Walters said.

“So I want you all to know, we will continue to fight back against this, we want to continue to provide an opportunity for parents to send their kids to high-quality schools.”

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-schools-bible-curriculum/index.html

Republicans

 

[tumorboy]

Giving these female teachers more excuses for after school time with the boys? Officer we were reenacting the story of Adam & Eve.

 

[Scruddy]

Is that seriously your opinion, or are you being sarcastic?

As someone sending their kids to a private Catholic school I'm being 100% facetious

 

[FAUlty Gator]

All Oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the Bible and the Ten Commandments in their curriculums, effective immediately, the state’s chief education officer announced in a memorandum Thursday.

At a State Board of Education meeting, Oklahoma State Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said the Bible is “one of the most foundational documents used for the Constitution and the birth of our country.”

“It’s crystal clear to us that in the Oklahoma academic standards under Title 70 on multiple occasions, the Bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country, to have a complete understanding of Western civilization, to have an understanding of the basis of our legal system,” Walters said.

Every classroom in the state must have a Bible and all teachers must teach from the Bible in the classroom, Walters said.

The Oklahoma memorandum follows a law in Louisiana passed June 19, that requires all public classrooms to display the Ten Commandments. A group of Louisiana parents and civil rights organizations are suing the state over the new law, contending the legislation violates both US Supreme Court precedent and the First Amendment.

Oklahoma’s directive “is in alignment with the educational standards approved on or about May 2019, with which all districts must comply,” according to a news release.

“The Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone,” Walters said in the release. “Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation. This is not merely an educational directive but a crucial step in ensuring our students grasp the core values and historical context of our country.”

The new memo comes after the Oklahoma Supreme Court blocked an effort to establish the first publicly funded religious charter school in the country. The court on Tuesday ordered the state to rescind its contract with St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School in a 6-2 decision with one recusal.

“Under Oklahoma law, a charter school is a public school,” wrote Justice James R. Winchester for the court. “As such, a charter school must be nonsectarian. However, St. Isidore will evangelize the Catholic faith as part of its school curriculum while sponsored by the State.”

Walters called the ruling “one of the worst” decisions the state Supreme Court has made and pledged to “fight back.”

“What the court did was rule against the parents of Oklahoma who have demanded more choices for their kids. We have a great opportunity to make sure that parents have the most options of any parents in the country here in Oklahoma, by giving them the ability to go to a public school, charter schools, private schools, this would have been the most unique charter school in the country,” Walters said.

“So I want you all to know, we will continue to fight back against this, we want to continue to provide an opportunity for parents to send their kids to high-quality schools.”

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-schools-bible-curriculum/index.html

That’s completely nuts.

 

[fezzador]

American Hypocrisy at its finest.

These are the folks who exalt the name of their Savior, but won’t let him move to their neighborhood because he’s a Jew.

 

[globalhawk]

Giving these female teachers more excuses for after school time with the boys? Officer we were reenacting the story of Adam & Eve.

The Sodom and Gomorrah field trip would be memorable.

 

[lucas80]

Ryan Walters has been an absolute embarrassment as the Superintendent here in Oklahoma. Everything in the last few years has gone even more super right wing here with the election of Gov. Kevin Stitt and his buddy Walters.

Walters is obsessed with getting rid of DEI, Critical Race Theory, 'liberal indoctrination', 'porn' books in the library, anything involving Pride, etc. He chooses to replace liberal indoctrination with having the Bible in classrooms and creating a publicly funded Catholic school.

Speaking of education of Oklahoma, scores of good teachers have either moved or left the profession and are being replaced by emergency certified 'teachers' with no degree, educational background or qualifications. It's hard to believe but education in Oklahoma will actually get worse.

Kim Reynolds is taking notes on how to reform Iowa's schools.

 

[lucas80]

I’ve always gotten MAGA was crazy. That’s why I have been against Trump from the beginning.

Mandating Bible teaching in public schools is next level insane.

If the right wants to turn America into a theocracy, I will vote for every Democrat on the ballot. That’s how stupid and dangerous I think this shit is.

The stage is being set for Christian inspired violence in the US. The constant drumbeat that they are under attack. The Big Lie. Russian/Chinese/North Korean/Iranian bots driving stories about DEI/Transkids.... that agitates them.
I don't think it is hyperbole at all to think we will see violence in American inspired by religion become common place.

 

[lucas80]

And now the State of Oklahoma gets to spend millions of dollars defending this completely unconstitutional decision. For complaining about governments wasting money all the time Republicans sure do like to waste money all the time.

You only need 5 justices to say it's cool.

 

[FlickShagwell]

That’s completely nuts.

You’ll both-sides this sooner or later. Probably with some cockamamie horseshit “litter boxes in the classroom” nonsense. That’s your shtick. Own it.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

The stage is being set for Christian inspired violence in the US. The constant drumbeat that they are under attack. The Big Lie. Russian/Chinese/North Korean/Iranian bots driving stories about DEI/Transkids.... that agitates them.
I don't think it is hyperbole at all to think we will see violence in American inspired by religion become common place.

Religion makes dumbasses of many.

With the benefit of education and science, I just can’t fathom how so many people can be so stupid.

 

[ihawk in FWB]

You’re even dumber than I thought. I’ve never once even hinted that church and state should be intertwined.
I’m catholic and don’t appreciate people bashing it. That’s all. If you don’t want to be religious that’s totally fine by me. I don’t make fun of you for not being religious. But keep up the good work sport. I’m sure your cult members would be proud knowing you’re pushing their bs on GIA

But did you choke your chicken?

 

[globalhawk]

But did you choke your chicken?

His pastor did that for him.

 

[Tom Paris]

I’m fine with an elective religious studies being taught in higher level high school courses. One of these courses was my favorite at Iowa. I’d be curious to know if there is a 1st Amendment argument here as a teacher. Can a teacher be forced by a public agency to teach religion when it’s something they don’t agree with?

Good question.

 

[Tom Paris]

Honestly, it’s too bad the states aren’t more aligned geographically on one side or the other. Two countries would probably be better.

I hate that I’m getting there with this thinking. The Civil War never ended.

 

[Tom Paris]

The right is fighting the culture war at the state level, who goes into office in Nov doesn't really matter.

Yes it does. It always does.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

You’ll both-sides this sooner or later. Probably with some cockamamie horseshit “litter boxes in the classroom” nonsense. That’s your shtick. Own it.

You mean like being a whiny bitch baby is your schtick? What’s the “both sides” of this issue anyway? That the Constitution was only kidding with the establishment clause? The whole pre-emptive whining is classic bitch baby, Flick schtick, BTW. Good work.

 

[TheCainer]

I wonder what this really entails.

Mandating the 10 commandments be adorning the walls of all classrooms is stupid for a variety of reasons, but functionally probably not meaningful.

What exactly do they mean by "teach"?

If they mean teach as in teach the way they might in Sunday school, that's ridiculous. If it means the inclusion of the bible as it was used historically -- say, in its citation by our founders -- that's probably more acceptable.

Instead of the 10 commandments, we need to start posting copies of our constitution.

 

[FlickShagwell]

You mean like being a whiny bitch baby is your schtick? What’s the “both sides” of this issue anyway? That the Constitution was only kidding with the establishment clause? The whole pre-emptive whining is classic bitch baby, Flick schtick, BTW. Good work.

Figures this was the awesomest comeback you could muster.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Figures this was the awesomest comeback you could muster.

Cry more.

 

[ISUBryceC]

This won't hold up,.. nor should it.

First Muslim that sues is gonna get the Koran taught in Broken Arrow and it’s gonna be absolutely hilarious.

 

[ISUBryceC]

The Sodom and Gomorrah field trip would be memorable.

If I was a teacher I’d teach the gnarliest stuff in the Old Testament and just laugh my way out of the thing. We’d hit Proverbs 5:19 hard that first week.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

If I was a teacher I’d teach the gnarliest stuff in the Old Testament and just laugh my way out of the thing. We’d hit Proverbs 5:19 hard that first week.

Start here. This is just before Moses heads to talk to the Pharoah, BTW. WTF!

At a lodging place on the way the LORD met him and sought to put him to death. Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it and said, “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!” So he let him alone. It was then that she said, “A bridegroom of blood,” because of the circumcision (Ex. 4:24–26)

 

[PoopandBoogers]

If I was a teacher I’d teach the gnarliest stuff in the Old Testament and just laugh my way out of the thing. We’d hit Proverbs 5:19 hard that first week.

Whore's forehead and donkey emissions would be my main lesson plans. It would also be the name of the class punk band.

 

[hawkirugged17]

 

[ft254]

Good question.

Not in public schools.

Religion belongs in church,

Education belongs in schools.

Why open this can of worms?

 

[lucas80]

First Muslim that sues is gonna get the Koran taught in Broken Arrow and it’s gonna be absolutely hilarious.

They have a response for that. We are a Western nation, so Western ideals only. No Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or Hindu nonsense will be allowed. They didn’t affect us one bit along the way…

 

[ft254]

They have a response for that. We are a Western nation, so Western ideals only. No Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or Hindu nonsense will be allowed. They didn’t affect us one bit along the way…

Or not. The White Nationalist SCOTUS will rule the Bible will be the basis for educating youth, arm bands with a specific pattern, each morning starts with a pledge of allegiance (maybe to an Orange Idol), and a fitting salute.

This may not be as crazy and far off as anyone thinks.

 

[Tom Paris]

They have a response for that. We are a Western nation, so Western ideals only. No Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or Hindu nonsense will be allowed. They didn’t affect us one bit along the way…

So NOT freedom, then.

 

[beanerhawk]

What are OK public schools ranked?

Hey righties, this is what indocrination looks like

This might shock you but this study has them 49th, only ahead of good old New Mexico next door to them.

Iowa is 14th.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education/prek-12

 

[SSG T]

This might shock you but this study has them 49th, only ahead of good old New Mexico next door to them.

Iowa is 14th.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education/prek-12

Honestly, I thought they were closer to 45th, so 2nd to last is a little surprising.