You're a Steve Deace guy aren't ya?
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The phrase "separation of church and state" appears nowhere in the Constitution, and the Founding Fathers saw nothing wrong with having relilaw.stanford.edu
Oklahoma makes teaching the Bible mandatory in all schools
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After SCOTUS gives the okay on this, I'm looking forward to the next case where a teacher decides to test it by displaying other religious materials. Then SCOTUS will issue a ruling that this is not permissible, thereby creating a precedent in which only the government can establish which religious viewpoints can be displayed in public schools.
Scotus absolutely will ok this. This version of the Supreme Court is an absolute disgrace.
No, just providing a counter point. I don’t think it should be taught in school other than glossing over, teaching a bit about the Abrahamic religions, their HhhhhUuuughe differences. I will add, we were a Christian nation at the time of our founding, with the idea of Islam ever making headway here a very foreign thought.
It shouldn't be taught in school, period. It'd be banned via ❄️ Republicans book ban standards based on what is in it.
Based on numerous Judges hearings they shouldn't have done much of any of the things they've done the past 2 years.
No no, I’m saying just talk about the origins, who wrote it, Hebrews, then the New Testament, debate it’s legitimacy. Then discuss the founding of the pedophilic goat ****ers religion which hasn’t evolved past beheading
Lol the fact we are here and talking this shows how off the rails and pitiful the GOP is.
Actually, I kind of think origins of religion are fair game. Just don’t actually teach the belief
The Founding Fathers would absolutely be appalled what the GOP is doing today..
The Scotus decision for sure, but probably not some of the stuff you’re upset about. They were anti tax, slave owning, church going people…..not progressives. They would be appalled at what’s happening to Europe.
They vehemently warned keeping religion out of our politics as well as warning about someone like a Trump.
They didn’t want the thing they left behind, a tyrant or a government that interfered with their worship. They wanted politics out of religion. They also didn’t want a two party system
Sir they would 100% be against what the GOP is today. Period
I’ll give you that one, but can probably find some evidence of public schools having prayer then
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Man, for as much of stickler you are towards the second amendment, you shoukd REALLY consider the first 11 words on the constitution.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
To me. That answers all of your, and everyone else questions regarding an establishment of religion.
It is the absolute first item addressed. In the first lines. All of the signatories agreed and signed this document.
No establishment of religion.
Not to be a stickler, but Congress isn’t doing anything in Oklahoma, it’s the federal funding that makes this illegal
The only point I’m making is that it is implicit in the first amendment.
11 words. The first words written in our beloved document that so many of you love to espouse.
But have conveniently ignored.
And has the country established a religion? Did the state of Oklahoma establish that you MUST be Christian and go to church? Even if they add biblical teachings in schools, what's the difference between that and Darwinism? IF it's it taught as here is what some people believe or what some scientists believe, they aren't forcing anyone to practice christianity.
Tell me you've never listened to Steve without telling me you've never listened to Steve... "No He's a MAGA."
I think you are overstating the religiosity of the founders. Church attendance was at one of its lowest level in early American history. We are talking single digits. Many of the founders arguably the most influential would be considered deists not theists. I don't think these people would relate at all to modern day Christianity. Particularly the idea of an active god people have a relationship with. They certainly wouldn't be pointing to the 10 commandments as foundational to the law and government. They would point to the Romans and the Greeks.
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Again, Oklahoma is a state, they can try this, but school being federally funded will stop it. Congress didn’t make this Oklahoma decision, their state did
He’s a Clone fan & like yourself, did not go to the U of I. Perhaps that’s why you like him so much. Do you have to go to the hospital for three months for a cold as well?
If I only listened to people who went to the U of I, or were hawkeye fans I guess I'd have to get most of my information from Ashton Kutcher.
Yeah so keep listening to the fat dork who is a religious nut job & can’t handle a cold. Maybe you can ask him about Rocco Becht & CRT at the same time. Then you can jerk him off & head to church together.
That took a strange turn, I've never thought about jerking off another dude, but you seem to have some unresolved fantasy you need to address.
Don’t worry, your lord & savior Steve Deace will help you with it. Go Clones!
I'd listen Gary Dolphin's takes but he would just get every name wrong.
Lifted directly from the Democratic platform on the DNC website:
Democrats applaud the decision by the Supreme Court that recognized that LGBT people—like other Americans—have the right to marry the person they love. But there is still much work to be done. LGBT kids continue to be bullied at school, restaurants can refuse to serve transgender people, and same-sex couples are at risk of being evicted from their homes. That is unacceptable and must change.
Democrats stand with the LGBTQ community’s fight for equality. We are committed to ending anti-LGBTQ violence, bullying, and discrimination, and to ensuring that LGBTQ Americans are treated with dignity and respect in their communities, their workplaces, and their schools.
Under President Obama’s leadership, we made tremendous progress: passing hate crimes legislation named for Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr., banning discrimination against LGBTQ people by federal contractors, and ending “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and the ban on transgender military service. On President Obama’s first day in office, only two states guaranteed marriage equality. Today, marriage equality is the law of the land in all 50 states.
These milestones are significant and historic, but our work is far from complete. Experience tells us that progress is incremental — just as President Obama said, “step by step, law by law, mind by changing mind.”
Democrats are ready to continue to strive for progress. Leaders in Congress and around the country will fight alongside the LGBTQ community for full equality under the law, ending harmful conversion therapy for LGBTQ youth, and full legal protection for transgender Americans.
Color me extremely skeptical that the Founding Fathers would be opposed to such a platform stance. Embellishing the Democratic platform beyond the above summary statement is just fearmongering and lies that were developed to rile up the uninformed GOP base into a frenzy.
It's actually been documented in the medical literature. And I posted that here for you a few years ago.
