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Oklahoma makes teaching the Bible mandatory in all schools

No; it's actual medical science.
You can Google up the medical references if you want to.
Suuuuure Joe. I notice none of your lefty liberal buddies in here are dumb enough to concur with your stupidity on this one. Enjoy Tampons for boys Island. I hear it's great this time of year. I know you read it on the internet so it must be true.
 
Which bible?

The Trump Bible, I assume.


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I’m fine with an elective religious studies being taught in higher level high school courses. One of these courses was my favorite at Iowa. I’d be curious to know if there is a 1st Amendment argument here as a teacher. Can a teacher be forced by a public agency to teach religion when it’s something they don’t agree with?

No fcvking way. Separation of church and state means just that. Philosophy belongs in advanced education curriculum.

It's not the responsibility of public schools to program students on issues like religion, which is exactly what it is. It's up to families to make those decisions.

Keep that junk away from my grandkids and great grandkids.
 
No fcvking way. Separation of church and state means just that. Philosophy belongs in advanced education curriculum.

It's not the responsibility of public schools to program students on issues like religion, which is exactly what it is. It's up to families to make those decisions.

Keep that junk away from my grandkids and great grandkids.
An AP high school class on varied religious philosophies would be a great class. Not advocacy. I’d be down with designing the curriculum. Bring in religious leaders of all the religions who want to come.

Religion is a vital component of our history. It doesn’t make sense to ignore that history because of fear. I’m not talking indoctrination but education.
 
An AP high school class on varied religious philosophies would be a great class. Not advocacy. I’d be down with designing the curriculum. Bring in religious leaders of all the religions who want to come.

Religion is a vital component of our history. It doesn’t make sense to ignore that history because of fear. I’m not talking indoctrination but education.

History? Religion is spiritualism.

religon

1. a particilar system of faith and worship.

2. a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance

Please provide data for which "history" is relevant and sources can validate and verify educational materials. A single source (Bible) is ridiculous.

If you don't live in the Bible Belt, and are not MAGA, why in the holy hell would you bring up such an absurd argument?
 
Religion is absolutely intertwined with historical politics and conflicts.

Is this how you or anyone want to incorporate religion's historical influence at a high school level education?

The intention is to indoctrinate kids with Christianity. Period.

No other reason. And there's no rhyme nor reason why Christianity is or should be preferred. Separation of church and state.
 
History? Religion is spiritualism.

religon

1. a particilar system of faith and worship.

2. a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance

Please provide data for which "history" is relevant and sources can validate and verify educational materials. A single source (Bible) is ridiculous.

If you don't live in the Bible Belt, and are not MAGA, why in the holy hell would you bring up such an absurd argument?
Religion plays a significant role in society today. Students should learn about the history of religion and how religion influences and impacts societies.
 
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Religion plays a significant role in society today. Students should learn about the history of religion and how religion influences and impacts societies.
Fine but then you need the Quran , the Torah, the Hindu, Buddhist etc that must also have there place in public schools, if that’s what you are advocating. Should public schools also spend your tax dollars on that as well. I’m all for education and history so sure buy all those and teach side by side
Might be a tough sell though in Oklahoma?
 
Is this how you or anyone want to incorporate religion's historical influence at a high school level education?
Yes.

Learning high-level fundamental elements of various world religions is entirely within the scope of teaching kids about the world and its history.

That is not "indoctrination" by any stretch.
 
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Fine but then you need the Quran , the Torah, the Hindu, Buddhist etc that must also have there place in public schools, if that’s what you are advocating. Should public schools also spend your tax dollars on that as well. I’m all for education and history so sure buy all those and teach side by side
Might be a tough sell though in Oklahoma?
I agree. A comparative study of religions and their affect on the history and present culture of the United states and world.
 
Yes.

Learning high-level fundamental elements of various world religions is entirely within the scope of teaching kids about the world and its history.

That is not "indoctrination" by any stretch.

In what context? The Crusades? Virginal birth. A big boat someone built and went all over the earth, gathered all species, brought them back to the big boat, waited 'til the water receded, redistributed all species to their origins. Shit like that.

Religion is not based on fact. It is spiritual. You can work on how religion's effect shaped social entities throughout the ages but it's purely speculative and applicable as the religious community sees it as positive.

And keep in mind Christianity is a relatively recent religion. Like I said before, Christianity holds no ownership. The Founding Fathers had the foresight to build in protection from organized religion's hold on England. This thread was originally based on Bible teaching in Oklahoma.

We shouldn't be having this conversation in 2024. It's a Constitutional issue. Separation of church and state. Education belongs in schools. Religion (spiritualism) belongs in church. If the two merge, it's history and if it's within the context of history worthy of educating, by all means. But to teach history for the sake of religion, no way.
 
In what context? The Crusades? Virginal birth. A big boat someone built and went all over the earth, gathered all species, brought them back to the big boat, waited 'til the water receded, redistributed all species to their origins. Shit like that.

Religion is not based on fact. It is spiritual. You can work on how religion's effect shaped social entities throughout the ages but it's purely speculative and applicable as the religious community sees it as positive.

And keep in mind Christianity is a relatively recent religion. Like I said before, Christianity holds no ownership. The Founding Fathers had the foresight to build in protection from organized religion's hold on England. This thread was originally based on Bible teaching in Oklahoma.

We shouldn't be having this conversation in 2024. It's a Constitutional issue. Separation of church and state. Education belongs in schools. Religion (spiritualism) belongs in church. If the two merge, it's history and if it's within the context of history worthy of educating, by all means. But to teach history for the sake of religion, no way.

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