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Oklahoma makes teaching the Bible mandatory in all schools

You’re reasonable. I’m not for the Bible being taught in school. I am for a course that teaches the origins and basic beliefs, since so much world conflict centers around Islam….ok, religion. The trans issue just keeps growing because some People think it doesn’t matter.

Sure, but that course should be determined by the local school districts curriculum, not at the state level for the same reasoning as above. It's much easier to influence your local districts then it is the folks in the Ivory Tower. There's definitely a Libertarian streak in me when it comes to local and state government. Shit gets tricky around civil liberties though.
 
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Sure, but that course should be determined by the local school districts curriculum, not at the state level for the same reasoning as above. It's much easier to influence your local districts then it is the folks in the Ivory Tower. There's definitely a Libertarian streak in me when it comes to local and state government. Shit gets tricky around civil liberties though.
So, about trans issue, I don’t think localities can handle it. It has to be total state rule.
 
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How so? Trans in sports isn’t a protected class. Sports aren’t a right
I was talking to some MAGA moms this week, you might be shocked to know we have them in IC, but we do. They were speaking very positively about a trans athlete. They were talking about how hard working this kid is, how they wished some of the other kids would work that hard, and using the preferred pronoun.
Point being it’s a lot harder to dismiss trans citizens when you know them, and your kids don’t hate them because they’ve grown up with them. It’s easier to recognize that trans citizens are simply trying to live their life to the fullest and should be appreciated for that.
 
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I was talking to some MAGA moms this week, you might be shocked to know we have them in IC, but we do. They were speaking very positively about a trans athlete. They were talking about how hard working this kid is, how they wished some of the other kids would work that hard, and using the preferred pronoun.
Point being it’s a lot harder to dismiss trans citizens when you know them, and your kids don’t hate them because they’ve grown up with them. It’s easier to recognize that trans citizens are simply trying to live their life to the fullest and should be appreciated for that.
They can do that without taking the spot of a bio woman
 
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The first amendment is talking about congress. Oklahoma legislature did this. If the schools didn’t receive any federal funding, it would stand legally. As is, it will be found unconstitutional.

There is a thing called incorporation. The first amendment also mentions freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly. Are you saying states can restrict all that?
 
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This Project 2025 is a fart in the wind? A manifesto to be ignored?

I thought it is supposed to be the right-wing blueprint for the future.

They are literally telling you how they will destroy the federal govt.

Believe them.
 
No, just providing a counter point. I don’t think it should be taught in school other than glossing over, teaching a bit about the Abrahamic religions, their HhhhhUuuughe differences. I will add, we were a Christian nation at the time of our founding, with the idea of Islam ever making headway here a very foreign thought.

No no, I’m saying just talk about the origins, who wrote it, Hebrews, then the New Testament, debate it’s legitimacy. Then discuss the founding of the pedophilic goat ****ers religion which hasn’t evolved past beheading
The Abrahamic religions are taught in middle school during studies of SW Asia (Middle East) pretty much exactly as you describe, although Islam is presented a little differently. ☺️
 
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The Abrahamic religions are taught in middle school during studies of SW Asia (Middle East) pretty much exactly as you describe, although Islam is presented a little differently. ☺️
I could teach Islam with a rap

Islam, Islam a terrible religion
They rape little girls and don’t go to prison
They don’t eat bacon and they don’t eat grease
But they **** all the goats in the Middle East
 
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I could teach Islam with a rap

Islam, Islam a terrible religion
They rape little girls and don’t go to prison
They don’t eat bacon and they don’t eat grease
But they **** all the goats in the Middle East
Islam definitely needs to be mocked more. We make fun of Christians but Islam needs to be laughed at more often. They get a pass too easily.
 
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I could teach Islam with a rap

Islam, Islam a terrible religion
They rape little girls and don’t go to prison
They don’t eat bacon and they don’t eat grease
But they **** all the goats in the Middle East
Lol. Wow. 😮

Needless to say, I will not be using that in my instruction this year. 😂
 
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Maybe it's time to consider safeguards on SCOTUS overreach. Afterall, with omnipotent authority they theoretically can make virtually any decision, as in Presidential immunity. They can strip any boundaries we take for granted with legislation the only recourse.

We are in new territory for separation of powers and the Supreme Court has refused accountability for its transgressions and absolute authority and impunity for its radical decisions. Exaggerating the crisis Justices operate on the bench with ethical, possibly criminal activities in the background and/or refuse to recuse cases involving conflicts of interests are untouchable due to political reticence.

The opposite of legal prudence.
 
Maybe it's time to consider safeguards on SCOTUS overreach.
We have them

Problem is, we have an entire political party that supports fascism, and wants a Court Star Chamber to over-rule our democratic norms, so long as they get God in schools and can ban abortions.
 
All Oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the Bible and the Ten Commandments in their curriculums, effective immediately, the state’s chief education officer announced in a memorandum Thursday.

At a State Board of Education meeting, Oklahoma State Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said the Bible is “one of the most foundational documents used for the Constitution and the birth of our country.”

“It’s crystal clear to us that in the Oklahoma academic standards under Title 70 on multiple occasions, the Bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country, to have a complete understanding of Western civilization, to have an understanding of the basis of our legal system,” Walters said.

Every classroom in the state must have a Bible and all teachers must teach from the Bible in the classroom, Walters said.

The Oklahoma memorandum follows a law in Louisiana passed June 19, that requires all public classrooms to display the Ten Commandments. A group of Louisiana parents and civil rights organizations are suing the state over the new law, contending the legislation violates both US Supreme Court precedent and the First Amendment.

Oklahoma’s directive “is in alignment with the educational standards approved on or about May 2019, with which all districts must comply,” according to a news release.

“The Bible is an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone,” Walters said in the release. “Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation. This is not merely an educational directive but a crucial step in ensuring our students grasp the core values and historical context of our country.”

The new memo comes after the Oklahoma Supreme Court blocked an effort to establish the first publicly funded religious charter school in the country. The court on Tuesday ordered the state to rescind its contract with St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School in a 6-2 decision with one recusal.

“Under Oklahoma law, a charter school is a public school,” wrote Justice James R. Winchester for the court. “As such, a charter school must be nonsectarian. However, St. Isidore will evangelize the Catholic faith as part of its school curriculum while sponsored by the State.”

Walters called the ruling “one of the worst” decisions the state Supreme Court has made and pledged to “fight back.”

“What the court did was rule against the parents of Oklahoma who have demanded more choices for their kids. We have a great opportunity to make sure that parents have the most options of any parents in the country here in Oklahoma, by giving them the ability to go to a public school, charter schools, private schools, this would have been the most unique charter school in the country,” Walters said.

“So I want you all to know, we will continue to fight back against this, we want to continue to provide an opportunity for parents to send their kids to high-quality schools.”

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-schools-bible-curriculum/index.html
which edition of the Bible?
 
which edition of the Bible?
Which set of 10 commandments? There are 3 different versions in the Hebrew Bible. Only one of which Exodus 34 1-29 is actually given the label the 10 Commandments and that one is never used for the basis of any of these 10 Commandment lists people put out today.
 
which edition of the Bible?

I was just going to post the same question.

Maybe they should use the Marcion Bible:

Marcionism was an early Christian movement that regarded the New Testament God as a different entity than the Old Testament God. The Old Testament God was the "demiurge" and is a cruel God-Emperor of the physical world. The New Testament God is the cool god who just wants peace and love and represents the spiritual world.
 
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Would prefer to teach the bible to my children myself or have the church teach them.
All parents are not created equally.

Some are much dumber and more malevolent than others.

That's why outside entities don't blindly trust parents such as yourself anymore to teach your kids the Bible, which you're still more than welcome to do, btw..............

In other words, it's a "few ruining it for the many" issue.
 

How cute you found some lying links on the internet. I'm glad to see you do your own research.
 
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