Tracy has some drops but is VERY dangerous. I wouldn’t even think OM is gunning for his time, he should be working on the Vberg/easy E spot where Rags is kinda working.
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It is now very clear that Oliver Martin should have been on the field all year long. He is a highly capable receiver who can most surely hack it with anyone on the team right now. Gotta keep guys like him interested or you get what we got when he first committed out of High School. I hope he sticks it out and shows how elite he can be. He could have gotten a jump start with that this year if he hadn't been relegated to riding the bench. I look forward to hearing about the incredible rapport he and Petras establish between now and the 20 season then seeing him catch 65 balls for 850 yds and 9 tds.
It is now very clear...
It is now very clear that Oliver Martin should have been on the field all year long. He is a highly capable receiver who can most surely hack it with anyone on the team right now. Gotta keep guys like him interested or you get what we got when he first committed out of High School. I hope he sticks it out and shows how elite he can be. He could have gotten a jump start with that this year if he hadn't been relegated to riding the bench. I look forward to hearing about the incredible rapport he and Petras establish between now and the 20 season then seeing him catch 65 balls for 850 yds and 9 tds.
Jesus Flick!There you go being a condescending Dick again!I know his post is a little out there but Christ cut him some slack!
It is now very clear that Oliver Martin should have been on the field all year long. He is a highly capable receiver who can most surely hack it with anyone on the team right now. Gotta keep guys like him interested or you get what we got when he first committed out of High School. I hope he sticks it out and shows how elite he can be. He could have gotten a jump start with that this year if he hadn't been relegated to riding the bench. I look forward to hearing about the incredible rapport he and Petras establish between now and the 20 season then seeing him catch 65 balls for 850 yds and 9 tds.
You just won’t stop will you?It is now very clear that Oliver Martin should have been on the field all year long. He is a highly capable receiver who can most surely hack it with anyone on the team right now. Gotta keep guys like him interested or you get what we got when he first committed out of High School. I hope he sticks it out and shows how elite he can be. He could have gotten a jump start with that this year if he hadn't been relegated to riding the bench. I look forward to hearing about the incredible rapport he and Petras establish between now and the 20 season then seeing him catch 65 balls for 850 yds and 9 tds.
I don’t know why you had to go starting a new thread about the exact same topic that has 3 pages going and counting that you are quite active in.Try to contribute something valuable to the thread bud. I know its a struggle for you.
OM is a talent to behold and could have performed very well this year if given the chance all year. Time to change the operation a little bit and put a guy like him on the field.
You don’t need to provide us with info backing your claims? I can tell you this, we aren’t just going to believe you.Listen man, I don't need to provide you with any new reasons that fit your qualitative criteria. You've seen what I posted on why I think he should have been on the field much more. He could have been our top guy if he got the reps. I don't share your presumptive sentiment toward Copeland. However, I did not say he is playing the wrong guy. Its who he is not playing thats the issue.
Harb is being relentless so I can see why.I would think that assertions from both sides would bother you then? Especially the side that says maybe he isnt as good as we all thought? Maybe the other guys are just better?
Harb just thinks the kid should get more playing time, so hes the only one you call out?
I am in the camp of why didnt OM get more playing time? Makes one wonder and I think both sides of this argument have no idea but would like to know...
In reality we are fans and it is none of our beeswax...
OM is a talent to behold
My bad Flick I did not realize that Harb has be harassing you on another thread.I apologize I believe he called you a rat f£;k.He has clearly lost it.Jesus Flick!There you go being a condescending Dick again!I know his post is a little out there but Christ cut him some slack!
Kudos, you shouldn't say more. I'm pretty confident both the coaches and Oliver know why his playing time was limited, and a bunch of anonymous posters on an Internet message board think they're entitled to know. They're not....I would really like to say, but I am not saying any more out of respect for my relationship with them. Sorry, but I have made that mistake before. I do truly hate when people make assertions about a kid without knowing everything, which is why I said something. FWIW
I have a big problem with Tracy's drops. They are a killer. If he can improve his catching, he could be elite. Our offense can't afford the many drops he has. Yes, he is capable of making a big play, also. His play tells me the coaches feel the risk is worth the reward, which is debatable, imo. On the other hand, I have nothing to say about OM since he has rarely played.I like OM...but I Don't think he is better then what they have out there currently
ISM>OM
Brandon Smith>OM
Tracy>OM
Ragaini=OM
If there is anything we can all agree on, it's that our coaches love taking risks. Kirk "Riverboat Gambler" Ferentz.His play tells me the coaches feel the risk is worth the reward, which is debatable, imo. On the other hand, I have nothing to say about OM since he has rarely played.
If there is anything we can all agree on, it's that our coaches love taking risks. Kirk "Riverboat Gambler" Ferentz.
Try to contribute something valuable to the thread bud. I know its a struggle for you.
OM is a talent to behold and could have performed very well this year if given the chance all year. Time to change the operation a little bit and put a guy like him on the field.
It is now very clear that Oliver Martin should have been on the field all year long. He is a highly capable receiver who can most surely hack it with anyone on the team right now. Gotta keep guys like him interested or you get what we got when he first committed out of High School. I hope he sticks it out and shows how elite he can be. He could have gotten a jump start with that this year if he hadn't been relegated to riding the bench. I look forward to hearing about the incredible rapport he and Petras establish between now and the 20 season then seeing him catch 65 balls for 850 yds and 9 tds.
Posters making alot of wrongful assumptions about why I think he should have seen the field much more this past season. I think they wasted a perfectly good year with him and now we will see if he remains invested in the program.
Yeah, Oliver is 5th on the depth chart. Simple as that.Always double down when you’re getting completely owned. Strong play.
Again, he got beat out by better players. If that’s enough to shake his investment in the program, then he isn’t Hawkeye material. A far cry from guys like Ochoa and Holloway who grinded and stepped up when their numbers were called. What if Keith Duncan took his ball and went home after he was the hero of the 2016 Michigan game only to lose his spot to Recinos? Those are the guys I want at Iowa. OM can be like that or maybe Scott Frost would take him.
No wrongful assumptions being made, we all see you've made up a reality in your head and decided it's fact.Posters making alot of wrongful assumptions about why I think he should have seen the field much more this past season. I think they wasted a perfectly good year with him and now we will see if he remains invested in the program.
Let’s stop with the talk that he is still learning our offense—- opposing defenses have it mastered one game week prep
Posters making alot of wrongful assumptions about why I think he should have seen the field much more this past season. I think they wasted a perfectly good year with him and now we will see if he remains invested in the program.
This is clever.. it must mean that Iowa’s defense has mastered every opposing offenseLet’s stop with the talk that he is still learning our offense—- opposing defenses have it mastered one game week prep
Based upon what? The TD in the opening game? I saw him run the wrong routes in other games. I'm not going to knock OM, but do you think it's possible that he wasn't playing because there were guys on the team that earned their spots?Listen man, I don't need to provide you with any new reasons that fit your qualitative criteria. You've seen what I posted on why I think he should have been on the field much more. He could have been our top guy if he got the reps. I don't share your presumptive sentiment toward Copeland. However, I did not say he is playing the wrong guy. Its who he is not playing thats the issue.
Listen man, I don't need to provide you with any new reasons that fit your qualitative criteria. You've seen what I posted on why I think he should have been on the field much more. He could have been our top guy if he got the reps. I don't share your presumptive sentiment toward Copeland. However, I did not say he is playing the wrong guy. Its who he is not playing thats the issue.
It is now very clear that Oliver Martin should have been on the field all year long. He is a highly capable receiver who can most surely hack it with anyone on the team right now. Gotta keep guys like him interested or you get what we got when he first committed out of High School. I hope he sticks it out and shows how elite he can be. He could have gotten a jump start with that this year if he hadn't been relegated to riding the bench. I look forward to hearing about the incredible rapport he and Petras establish between now and the 20 season then seeing him catch 65 balls for 850 yds and 9 tds.
Based upon what? The TD in the opening game? I saw him run the wrong routes in other games. I'm not going to knock OM, but do you think it's possible that he wasn't playing because there were guys on the team that earned their spots?
Can’t confirm wrong routes but he had at least 5 penalties this season.. false starts and lining up in the wrong spot. You put a guy in for a play and he gets a penalty... Does he deserve more playing time?You have a far more complete understanding of the playbook than most if you can determine he ran the wrong routes.
Not really but it’s apparent when he Ran into another receiver early in the year. Look, I don’t want to knock him. I think he’s going to be a valuable member of the team. For whatever reason, it wasn’t this year. Martin can work his way to being a contributor, I have no doubt.You have a far more complete understanding of the playbook than most if you can determine he ran the wrong routes.