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OSU Press Conference Today

That settles it. If Urban doesn't want to be suspended he won't be. The AD may wind up going, but Urban will get what he wants. I suspect he'll never answer any questions about why he took no action either.

It would be interesting to hear him pitch recruits about the life lessons they will learn under his guidence, but I suspect there's plenty of kids who have no moral compass either.
 
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"Biddle reports that Meyer would rather be fired by OSU than face suspension."

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Of course he’d rather get fired. That way he still gets paid and gets to sit on his ass. Right now, he is suspended with pay, but if it extends into the season, he’ll start losing money.
He believes he did nothing wrong, so if they fire him, he believes it is without cause and they'll have to pay his contract.
 
Deliberations are at around the seven hour mark at this point.

The problem that OSU has is that they said that they would release the report. If they go too easy on Urban, given the findings of the report, there will be a huge backlash.
 
The problem that OSU has is that they said that they would release the report. If they go too easy on Urban, given the findings of the report, there will be a huge backlash.
Really? From who? Where is the moral compass today? At PSU, they had there penalty cut short for good behavior. All of the crap that went on at MSU, and not a single thing has happened to Dantonio or Izzo. Money talks and BS walks. Meyer makes the money for OSU, so I highly doubt that anything will happen, or that anyone will even remember 6 months from now. Please, prove me wrong OSU Board of Trustees.......
 
Really? From who? Where is the moral compass today? At PSU, they had there penalty cut short for good behavior. All of the crap that went on at MSU, and not a single thing has happened to Dantonio or Izzo. Money talks and BS walks. Meyer makes the money for OSU, so I highly doubt that anything will happen, or that anyone will even remember 6 months from now. Please, prove me wrong OSU Board of Trustees.......
Penn State had their penalty cut short because the NCAA couldn't prove they violated any NCAA rules. Apparently, there's nothing in the NCAA rulebook about covering up for a coach who's raping kids in the shower. At least, there wasn't at the time.
But I get your point and I agree with it. No one at Ohio State really cares more about a spousal abuse victim than they do a shot at another national championship.
 
Press conference at 850 tonight about investigation. I repeat press conference is right now.
 
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Odds UM has a smug look on His face the entire time , the like fire me and I will get paid and take a job with a rival school and make You azzhats pay type look.
 
Congrats to OSU for having every win from here on tainted by being a program that empowers beating the shit out of wives, at a university that's ok with coaches sexually abusing its wrestlers.

Wouldn't trade places with OSU for anything.
 
A Wisconsin player just received a measly two game suspension for his part in a sexual assault incident. Our conference in general has no stomach for moral justice if it means undermining its success on the gridiron.
 
Really? From who? Where is the moral compass today? At PSU, they had there penalty cut short for good behavior. All of the crap that went on at MSU, and not a single thing has happened to Dantonio or Izzo. Money talks and BS walks. Meyer makes the money for OSU, so I highly doubt that anything will happen, or that anyone will even remember 6 months from now. Please, prove me wrong OSU Board of Trustees.......

It was legal action and threatened actions which ended the penalties prematurely. Sadly, the sports media jumped on the PSU-forgiveness bandwagon and that helped them get out of their sanctions.
 
A Wisconsin player just received a measly two game suspension for his part in a sexual assault incident. Our conference in general has no stomach for moral justice if it means undermining its success on the gridiron.
Ya and to think the 5 gopher players didn't do squat and were suspended and then the the whole coaching staff is gone because they sided with the players when they wanted to boycott bowl game....messed up world we live in huh? Wisky player only 2 games is laughable....kid should be off team.
 
my bad bro. thought they must have started it. I tried to access the live feed elsewhere but couldn't.
No problem. Apparently the investigator, the 1st to speak, said UM did not deliberately lie. I’m still trying to figure out what she meant by that. Didn’t see the whole thing.
 
No problem. Apparently the investigator, the 1st to speak, said UM did not deliberately lie. I’m still trying to figure out what she meant by that. Didn’t see the whole thing.
I'll have to watch the whole thing here soon to get a feel for what was going on. I thought lying was always deliberate.
 
A Wisconsin player just received a measly two game suspension for his part in a sexual assault incident. Our conference in general has no stomach for moral justice if it means undermining its success on the gridiron.

Ciphus is quite adamant he did nothing wronh. If he is found guilty then he will be kicked off. Wisconsin isn't like these other schools, IMO. Im kind of confused why Davis III is suspended before the investigation.

I agree with you on all the other investigations but am pumping the brakes on this one because it hasn't gone to trial yet. The moral high ground I thought this conference had is crumbling.

As someone else said, knowing about beating a woman equated to a 3 game suspension. Shelly Meyer needs to be fired as a mandatory reporter, she failed. Thats a no brainer.
 
I think that 3 games is appropriate, based upon the investigative report.

But I think that the investigative report is, in itself, a whitewash. The investigative report clearly notes that they did not have any texts from Urban Meyer that were older than one year. The investigative report notes that Urban asked how to change the settings on his phone so that texts older than one year were deleted.

The report notes that there were records requests made for e-mails and texts prior to Urban Meyer's change of the settings. This is a public institution--it is subject to Ohio's public records laws--and the fact that Urban Meyer changed his settings to delete old texts after records requests were made most likely violated Ohio's public records laws. Yet the report was only "troubled" by this fact. That is intentional destruction of evidence, and an adverse inference should be drawn from the fact. Yet the report gives him the benefit of the doubt.

The investigative report shows that there is sufficient evidence to believe that Urban Meyer was lying, but ultimately accepts his "pure heart/empty head" defense:

"Second, although it is a close question and we cannot rule out that Coach Meyer was intentionally misleading in his answers, we do not ultimately find that he was. He clearly misspoke and made misstatements, but the reasons that happened are complex. Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie."

What seems clear from the report is that Shelley Meyer had enough information to believe that Zach Smith was dangerous and unstable: At 7:35 p.m., Shelley Meyer conveyed, in a text to Coach Meyer, that “I am worried about Zach’s response. He drinks a lot and I am just not sure how stable he will be. Afraid he will do something dangerous. It’s obvious he has anger/rage issues already.” Meyer did not respond to the message.

You cannot reconcile that text with the assertion that Urban and Shelley Meyer disbelieved Courtney Smith.

The report notes that Urban Meyer told Zach Smith that if “you hit her, you are fired.” You don't give that warning unless you believe there is a chance/risk that the he is hitting her.

The report notes all of the troubling facts, then draws the wrong inference from each of them.

OSU, the investigative team, the attorneys retained for the investigation, and Meyer deserve all of the scorn that they will receive from this.
 
I like how Meyer never apologized to the Courtney Smith but don't worry he did to Buckeye nation and all the fans. Then there is this gem in a yahoo article today about one of the first thing Urban did after learning about the story with the texts she sent and to his wife.


Meyer talked with staffer about deleting texts the day before Ohio State obtained his phone
Investigators said they didn’t find any text messages older than a year on Meyer’s phone during their investigation. The phone was obtained by Ohio State on Aug. 2, the day after Meyer was placed on leave.

On Aug. 1, investigators noted that director of football operations Brian Voltolini told Meyer about a story that included text messages between Zach Smith’s ex-wife Courtney and Meyer’s wife Shelley. Voltolini called it a “bad article.” The two had a conversation about who could obtain the texts on Meyer’s phone and how the settings could be adjusted on it to delete text messages older than a year.

However, the report said it could not be concluded that Meyer’s phone wasn’t already set to that setting.

“We cannot determine, however, whether Coach Meyer’s phone was set to retain messages only for one year in response to the August 1st media report or at some earlier time. It is nonetheless concerning that his first reaction to a negative media piece exposing his knowledge of the 2015-2016 law enforcement investigation was to worry about the media getting access to information and discussing how to delete messages older than a year.”
 
I think Ohio State and Meyer are going their separate ways. I could be completely wrong too. My thoughts are they’re putting tough stipulations on how Meyer handles his staff/program moving forward. Urban is such an egomaniac/control freak, he can’t handle the stipulations and steps down. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Can you let us know which lottery numbers we shouldn't pick?
 
I like how Meyer never apologized to the Courtney Smith but don't worry he did to Buckeye nation and all the fans. Then there is this gem in a yahoo article today about one of the first thing Urban did after learning about the story with the texts she sent and to his wife.


Meyer talked with staffer about deleting texts the day before Ohio State obtained his phone
Investigators said they didn’t find any text messages older than a year on Meyer’s phone during their investigation. The phone was obtained by Ohio State on Aug. 2, the day after Meyer was placed on leave.

On Aug. 1, investigators noted that director of football operations Brian Voltolini told Meyer about a story that included text messages between Zach Smith’s ex-wife Courtney and Meyer’s wife Shelley. Voltolini called it a “bad article.” The two had a conversation about who could obtain the texts on Meyer’s phone and how the settings could be adjusted on it to delete text messages older than a year.

However, the report said it could not be concluded that Meyer’s phone wasn’t already set to that setting.

“We cannot determine, however, whether Coach Meyer’s phone was set to retain messages only for one year in response to the August 1st media report or at some earlier time. It is nonetheless concerning that his first reaction to a negative media piece exposing his knowledge of the 2015-2016 law enforcement investigation was to worry about the media getting access to information and discussing how to delete messages older than a year.”
Holy ****, what a scumbag.
 
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This ESPN article states that the trustees board just starting reviewing the findings this morning. I doubt that they'll have a determination of what to do in less than a day.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...s-trustees-begin-discussing-urban-meyer-probe
Welp was I ever wrong....seems like they decided what the 'punishment' would be before the official review.

I simply can not understand how OSU's background check of Smith didn't reveal his arrest in 2009. Maybe because there wasn't a conviction? Seems strange.

We also learned during the investigation that Coach Meyer has sometimes had significant memory issues in other situations where he had prior extensive knowledge of events. He has also periodically taken medicine that can negatively impair his memory, concentration, and focus. All of these factors also need to be considered and weighed in assessing Coach Meyer’s mindset on July 24th.

wow, I'm speechless
 
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At least we won't have to worry about OSU dipshits showing their faces around here.
It didn't stop the defenders from blue and white or whatever they call their site for the PSU blowhards from coming here, and showing their never ending support for Joe Pa..........
 
Welp was I ever wrong....seems like they decided what the 'punishment' would be before the official review.

I simply can not understand how OSU's background check of Smith didn't reveal his arrest in 2009. Maybe because there wasn't a conviction? Seems strange.

We also learned during the investigation that Coach Meyer has sometimes had significant memory issues in other situations where he had prior extensive knowledge of events. He has also periodically taken medicine that can negatively impair his memory, concentration, and focus. All of these factors also need to be considered and weighed in assessing Coach Meyer’s mindset on July 24th.

wow, I'm speechless

Significant memory issues, huh? That's quite a load of bullshit coming out of Columbus here folks. I hope they lose every effing game this year. Opposing fans who host tOSU should shower their sideline with dildos and boxing gloves.

Deplorable. But if you have to live in Ohio, I guess Buckeye football is all you have to look forward to each year and it must be protected always. Considering the grinding poverty and addiction in that state, I can understand why this culture exists.
 
Welp was I ever wrong....seems like they decided what the 'punishment' would be before the official review.

I simply can not understand how OSU's background check of Smith didn't reveal his arrest in 2009. Maybe because there wasn't a conviction? Seems strange.

We also learned during the investigation that Coach Meyer has sometimes had significant memory issues in other situations where he had prior extensive knowledge of events. He has also periodically taken medicine that can negatively impair his memory, concentration, and focus. All of these factors also need to be considered and weighed in assessing Coach Meyer’s mindset on July 24th.

wow, I'm speechless

If you buy the “memory issue” argument, it seems like Urban now has a get-out-of-jail-free card for pretty much any situation you can imagine.
 
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