Given the history of the Ames PD and the basketball coaching staff, and that Walmart contacted the PD in February, you don't? Seriously dude, you are delusional if you think Prohm didn't know.
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From what I understand Walmart did not detect the theft until recently while reviewing some surveillance footage of the self checkout. So is his former coach supposed to suspend him from the NBA Combine?
edit: After discovering new information, I stand corrected Walmart contacted the police February 18th two weeks after the incident took place.
https://www.amestrib.com/sports/201...er-charged-pleads-guilty-to-misdemeanor-theft
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You make me laugh, dragging out the old "you are not an Iowa fan" because you do not like what I wrote. Please save all of that tired old shtick.
So does the local police department have an obligation to contact the HC if a player gets arrested, or is this a self reporting situation by the player? I know that if my 18 year old son were to get arrested there would be no need for the police to contact me about the incident.
Do they have an obligation? No. Do they? Based on what they have done in the past, yes.
It seems like based on some universities that the coach can petition the sports admin for removal of suspension (If the alleged criminal activity would constitute a misdemeanor offense, the head coach may lift the administrative suspension after obtaining the approval of the sport administrator.according to the University of Washington's policy)- THT's crime was a misdemeanor and he was never arrested by the Ames police. "He was never arrested and all he has to do is pay Walmart back and pay a $65 fine." So there would be no reason to contact the HC. I know that in my line of work I must self report any arrest to my employer within 48 hours.
https://education.findlaw.com/highe...me-what-happens-when-players-break-the-l.html
Well, he did not have a public suspension. And he played in every game. Maybe they took his IPad away from him...
Because the ISU fans have been clear that any punishment other than missing games doesn’t count....... well unless a game is cancelled and the next game is Iowa, that counts.
You make me Laugh, posing as an Iowa fan, constantly bashing everything about Iowa, while defending everything Iowa State. Get a life.
Please show me here I defend Iowa State, after all, it should be easy considering I constantly bash Iowa and defend ISU. I will be waiting. My original comment was centered around a comment someone made about how, "Iowa would never do what ISU was perceived to do concerning THT." I merely brought up the Peter Jok OWI and the four days he spent in jail for riding his moped with a suspended license. In hindsight, the better comparison would have been the Pierre Pierce case. My point is "people in glass houses should not throw stones." Am I critical of Coach McCaffery? Yes. I am certainly no fan of Coach McCaffery, but that has never led me to root against Iowa.
OFGS please stop. Your examples illustrate perfectly what we are saying. In both cases, the Iowa player ended up with severe punishment. Generally, when IA State basketball players commit crimes they either are not get punished or get a relative slap on the hand.
I guess I'm delusional. Here is what I do know - if he did know, it would be inconsistent with his character to allow him to play. He suspended Talley and Lard before this season functionally for the entire month of November, and neither had legal trouble. So I'll take what I think is the evidence based on that, and assume he didn't know, or if he did know, he didn't think it was worthy of a suspension. You'll take what you think is the evidence, and assume ISU is some rogue program because they didn't suspend him, and we'll go on with our merry lives.
On October 1, 2002, Iowa basketball player Pierre Pierce was charged with third-degree sexual assault, a Class C felony worth up to 10 years in prison. The incident had occurred a little under a month prior on September 7, 2002. The day after the arrest, Iowa AD Bob Bowlsby announced that Pierce was suspended from all team activities. That same day, Alford vigorously defended his accused player, saying that he “supported him 100 percent,”
You notice that was in the papers and reported in a timely manner. Do you really want to go back 15 years and 2 coaches ago? IA State has had more than it's share of issues since then, and the outcome of the Pierce crimes has shaped Iowa and how it deals with such things. IA State, on the other hand, keeps on doing the SSDD. When will you learn?
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My point was only that Iowa has employed a coach with questionable ethics concerning his players when their player finds himself in legal troubles. I am not indicting the university. It is obvious that the University of Iowa handled the Pierce situation in a timely manner. Talen Horton Tucker stole a 15.00 dollar item from a Walmart, which obviously does not rise to the level of a Class C Felony. I did not attend the University of Iowa or Iowa State so it really does not matter to me. Like I stated, "people in glass houses should not throw stones." Both universities have had their share of "black eyes" and to think otherwise is just not being honest.
You are ignoring what I am saying. Kids mess up. It is how the school and coaches react to it that I am questioning. Iowa brings it out in the open and handles it publicly, whereas IA State has tried to hide it. All of the incidents with Hoiberg and the cops in the past, now the same is happening with the current staff. CLEARLY a difference here, and I am not just talking about the "$15" theft charge. There have been many other things that have gone on at IA State that illustrate this.
Removed from all team activities. Overall probably a little more of a problem than missing Baltimore-Eastern-Shore-DuPage County type of a game.
4 days in jail? Are you kidding?
You might have missed this earlier: https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/s...ys-in-jail-related-to-prior-charges/15846441/
I find it funny how Jok gets a DUI and has no punishment from Fran or the basketball program and you seem to have to no problem with that.
Pete gets a DUI and gets no punishment from Fran. If that happened to ISU would you and BBHawk be ok with it, or would you expect additional penalties from the coach/progran?
So Jok did his state mandated punishment, and it's enough for you.
I assume THT will do his state mandated punishment, but that's not enough for you, and it's proof of ISU's rogue program.
Do I have this right?
I wasn’t a big fan of the decision at the time, but the incident was addressed by Fran at the time and not swept under the rug.
There is a pretty big difference between not imposing additional punishment and ignoring the incident completely.
That said, maybe the staff didn’t know, at which point I would question the decision making of LE
It was addressed by Fran because it was in the news and became known. If not for that I doubt he would have addressed it with the media.
Apparently some posters cannot read.
"Coach McCaffery and the administration are aware of the legal obligations that Peter Jok has been ordered to fulfill by the court in regards to this summer's incidents. Nothing has changed in regards to Peter's status with the team. He rejoined the team the first week of school after completing the team obligations that he needed to during his suspension. This decision completes his legal requirements."
Besides the 4 days in jail, "...Jok was sentenced to pay a mandatory minimum fine of $1,000, as well as a 35 percent surcharge and court costs."
THT had to pay back the $15. And that was serious punishment by IA State standards...if you can believe what you read. Maybe something is happening behind the scenes but the staff does a damn good job of hiding it.
"Coach McCaffery and the administration are aware of the legal obligations that Peter Jok has been ordered to fulfill by the court in regards to this summer's incidents. Nothing has changed in regards to Peter's status with the team. He rejoined the team the first week of school after completing the team obligations that he needed to during his suspension. This decision completes his legal requirements."
Besides the 4 days in jail, "...Jok was sentenced to pay a mandatory minimum fine of $1,000, as well as a 35 percent surcharge and court costs."
THT had to pay back the $15. And that was serious punishment by IA State standards...if you can believe what you read. Maybe something is happening behind the scenes but the staff does a damn good job of hiding it.
Exactly my point. Incidents like this not making the news at all is the bigger issue.
It was dealt with at the time of his arrest. How would you suggest Prohm handle someone who hasn't been charged with anything?
It was reported on right after he was charged.
