Yeah. I don't think that's gonna happen. I say he'll have 0 points and 0 rebounds.
Owen Freeman on the outs?
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BirdistheWord
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They are going to jerk off on us?
Don’t get it twisted, freeman would be a highly sought after transfer.
Problem is - if all the underclassmen on our team transferred - only him and Dix would have much top Power 5 interest. The rest of the guys would be looking at mid major offers or dumpster teams in the major conferences. Seydo may have some interest.
Harding, Pryce, Dembele, Tadjo, Mulvey would not be commanding much market value at all. Hard to win with a roster full of players that most other teams wouldn’t want
Is he just quitting on the team?
I can’t blame him for the way the season has gone. But there’s also a lot of games left. Can’t say I respect it either
Fans are tired of shitty basketball.
Why? Get the best we can get. Probably can’t be great. This arena squad and everything need an adjustment. What does a former player bring other than stale. Nothing.
Wis star from last year AJ Storr averaged 18 pts last season for Badgers.
KU gave him good money.
This season he is coming off the bench and averages 4.7 pts a game.
Short term gain but maybe hurts his development and pro potential.
Badgers replaced him with Tonje who is scoring around 18/gm.
Wis is ranked.
KU?...struggling.
Hope Owen looks at the big picture.
At Iowa he will get all the minutes he can handle.
I still believe that guys like him love to play in games...the competition.
And like playing with guys he has been buddies with in those formative years.
My lifelong best buds are guys I met first couple years of college.
KU gave him good money.
This season he is coming off the bench and averages 4.7 pts a game.
Short term gain but maybe hurts his development and pro potential.
Badgers replaced him with Tonje who is scoring around 18/gm.
Wis is ranked.
KU?...struggling.
Hope Owen looks at the big picture.
At Iowa he will get all the minutes he can handle.
I still believe that guys like him love to play in games...the competition.
And like playing with guys he has been buddies with in those formative years.
My lifelong best buds are guys I met first couple years of college.
What drive me just a little nuts is that Iowa State hires coaches that perform well in the NCAA tournament. Iowa's two hires before Fran were absolutely terrible. ( I admit that I was excited about the Alford and Lickliter hires but the truth is I was drinking Jimmy Jone's Cool-Aid.) Alford wore out his welcome in Iowa City almost as fast as he got here. For a guy who wore his faith on his sleeve, he was really a slimy guy. I knew Lick was a bad hire before he ever coached a game. The first time I saw him on tv he was chomping on a piece of gum while he was being interviewed. Now short of chronic halitosis, chewing gum while being interviewed on tv is about as smart as a bucket with no bottom. Man, I'm glad he's gone.
The guy Iowa first hires is the guy at Iowa State that evaluates head coaching candidates because that guy knows what the hell he is doing. I don't have a wish list of coaching candidates because no one at Iowa cares what I think, anyway. Besides, what the hell do I know about coaching college basketball? Zilch is the answer. I just hope Iowa can hire a guy who fits into Iowa's culture and can hustle on the recruiting trail.
I know that NIL has transformed college basketball and that it does not help Iowa in any way, shape or form. However, if mid-majors can break through and make a run with the recruits that have already been picked through, why can't Iowa? Iowa needs a head coach, a young, hungry head coach that takes responsibility for the players on the floor instead of relying on assistants to do all the evaluating and recruiting. I don't know who that guy is, but I'm sure he's out there.
Sorry for rambling...
The guy Iowa first hires is the guy at Iowa State that evaluates head coaching candidates because that guy knows what the hell he is doing. I don't have a wish list of coaching candidates because no one at Iowa cares what I think, anyway. Besides, what the hell do I know about coaching college basketball? Zilch is the answer. I just hope Iowa can hire a guy who fits into Iowa's culture and can hustle on the recruiting trail.
I know that NIL has transformed college basketball and that it does not help Iowa in any way, shape or form. However, if mid-majors can break through and make a run with the recruits that have already been picked through, why can't Iowa? Iowa needs a head coach, a young, hungry head coach that takes responsibility for the players on the floor instead of relying on assistants to do all the evaluating and recruiting. I don't know who that guy is, but I'm sure he's out there.
Sorry for rambling...
I doubt if Owen is having a problem with Fran. I think the reason he sat him in the second half is that the whole team was struggling and Owen can’t win it on his own. Basically I think it was Fran just throwing in the towel.
My thinking is that a coach with Iowa ties is more likely to want the Iowa job and try to stay around an build something. The hot name like Alford was---we'd always be in danger of being poached by more established program at the 1st sign of success. Alford started out hot, but flamed out before he had a chance to be poached.
The Iowa job has selling point that the patience of the Athletic Department has been pretty steady which enabled a guy like Fran to have a 15 year run without doing much. Iowa has only fired one basketball coach in close to 50 years---Lickliter.
I would be surprised if a deal can be worked out with Devries.
I was clowning on certain fans. Hopefully the AD isn't so myopic in coaching search.
Fair points, and if we can find an Iowa guy who would be a great coach and stick around, that's perfect.
Still, I'd say get the best coach that can be had. If we hit on a great hire that eventually bolts, at least he's made the job hopefully more attractive for his successor, and we can enjoy some strong results in the meantime. That's how I look at it.
Like Lute Olson.
I have less issue with a guy leaving if he's actually accomplished something.
Sure, it would be great to find a coach that takes them to a final four AND wants to stick around AND does it again. But I'm more realistic than that.
If they can find a guy who takes them to an elite 8, then signs a deal with another program I could live with that.
He can barely even dunk. He will hardly see the floor at a school like Kansas.
Owen on offense is basically only a back to the basket center and is only good from close distance. No face up shot, mid range shot or three point shot. His defense is as bad as anyone else on the team. He is not a good rebounder and has the ball taken away from him a lot. I would think Kansas would like to have a different profile from Owen.
Well you have been lonely without a really good team over the course of several seasons for a long long time, maybe since early Tom Davis years but definitely Lute's last 4 or 5 seasons. Regular season Iowa basketball hasnt won or tied for a regular season title since Olsen, iirc. That is 40 years. At least the football team averages a Big Champ every decade or so.
Iowa BBall fans, they younger ones, dont even know that Iowa went to 2 final fours in the late 1950's, followed by some really good teams including highly ranked teams around 1963-64, one of which beat #1 UCLA, and Miller lead Iowa to a really great 6-7 year span before he left.
Rambling is fine. Face it, Fran can coach offensive bball but terrible about demanding and getting really good defensive teams. I give Fran probably a C or C+ for recruiting. He got the Murray brothers because they lived close by and fran's kids played against them so he saw the potential, a great get.
The program needs a great X's and O's coach on both ends of the floor (Izzo and others win because they play great defense which works on the road). They also need great recruiting.
Is the Carver Experience still just middling? I know Carver can be great. I was there when the Hawks played Georgia Tech and their 2 7 footers in the NIT and the place was super loud. and so have other NIT games been. But maybe a lot of that is the really quiet long term fans dont go to those games and we get really rowdy fans then.
Move the student section down close to the visitors bench
If anything the Iowa women showed the past couple of years is that Carver can be loud and energetic if the fans are given something to cheer for. Carvers not the problem. The product on the floor is the problem.
Iowa fans would lose their shit if Iowa hired a coach with Lute’s resume when he was hired.
The red herring as to CHA being the issue has always been a non starter from the first time it was brought up.
Not only was Carver loud and rocking in the past for mens bball, but more recently it's been loud and rocking for women's bball and wrestling.
The arena could certainly be better/updated. I wouldn't argue that. But the main problem, and it's painfully obvious, is the sh!t product.
Who was AD that hired Lute ? Evidently someone who knew what they were doing.
Thanks Barta.
As much as we critique the current players on the roster, I have a hard time believing they wouldn’t be successful with a different coach who actually cared about fundamentals
I knew that Lute was at LBS before Iowa, but I never really looked at how little college head coaching experience there was on the resume when Iowa hired him. Talk about a leap of faith!
Way different time in college basketball.
I'd be fine if a new coach turned over most of the roster. Keep Dix and Freeman, if reasonable deals could be negotiated with them. Playing defense and rebounding no longer optional, particularly for Freeman.
No one else on the current roster is a definite keeper.
Harding as a back up and Traore are fine if they can be had for a token amount. I wouldn't spend a dime on any of the rest of the roster. Several should be encouraged to find spots elsewhere.
I do wonder what Koch will do as I think he’s got the most upside on the roster and wants to be a hawk. Fran won’t be going anywhere other than a mid-major if he wants to keep coaching so I don’t see him following his coach.
BirdistheWord
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Let’s just stick with the status quo - we don’t want to fall short of the NIT
Maybe, if he can be had for nothing.
Like it or not, this is now essentially pro sports.
Iowa should be looking to play moneyball.
Since there's no equivalent to the front office staff of a pro ball franchise, I think one of the key things to ask the new coach is how he'd go about constructing his roster. Types of players within the confines of the total salary expenditure available to him. Every spot on the roster comes with costs.
Also is horrible at blocking out, doesn't jump, weak and gets backed down, slow moving his feet, prone to foul trouble.
He's good at running the court, blocking/altering shots, has good post moves and touch.
Like most of our players; he could benefit from a more intense strength program as well.
Most our guys look so undeveloped
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