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How about a Black Lives Matter? Yea or nay?
The problem is going to be that this school district has not been diligent about policing political speech or potentially offensive messaging on their campus. Guarantee they haven't. So whether they intend it or not the school will have the appearance of favoring certain speech. In essence the school district is screwed on this. In addition they have suspended a student for 10 days. Let that sink in...10 days. In Iowa I think it is illegal for a school district to keep a kid out of school for more than 10 days without a hearing.
Remember this about school districts and administration. Every single significant movement forward on things like free speech or the rights of students including those students that are disabled has been the result of suing their stupid asses.
Nay, in my opinion.How about a Black Lives Matter shirt? Yea or nay?
Or the kids were told to quiet down part way through the day, they chose to not listen, things escalated and the principal chose to put a stop to it. It wouldn't be the first time this week that some high school kids pushed the envelope, massaged the story so they were the victims and their parents helicopter in and swallow the story whole without a thought that their precious could be minimizing the roll they played in the controversy. The only people that actually know the whole story are the administrators and the kids.
Sure. Except for the ten day suspension and the school resource officer taking pictures of the kids in their shirts and hats. For evidence.
The district is truly and justifiably screwed in this.
Did every single person in this thread miss the fact that this was a spirit day at the school? It wasn't just a normal Wednesday.
It was USA day at the school. It was an intentional distraction day. It's the schools fault for asking the kids to wear pro American clothing and then getting upset when kids wore pro American and pro potus clothing.
And, what I don’t get, is how there are seemingly no Trump supporters actively trying to stop the use of MAGA for hate.
If you disagree with those views, and you think a MAGA hat should be perfectly acceptable, then do something about it. Let others know it’s unacceptable to use as a hate message instead of merely political support. Take back your message.
However, I’m increasingly of the believe that it is an intended purpose of MAGA. Outright racism and bigotry has finely become largely taboo. So instead, people are finding veiled ways to deliver their message with plausible deniability. MAGA has become that. I’m not sure if people are pissed because they are ignorant of how it’s being used and perceived...or if they’re pissed that they’re losing their plausible deniability.
Do you have a link to the ten day suspension and a quote as to why pictures were taken?
When are you going to realize you are wrong. If you support Trump you are either:
1) a bigot; or
2) tolerating or turning a blind eye to bigotry.
Both are forms of bigotry. Whether you are passively or impassively racist is irrelevant. It may make you feel better that you’re not actively doing hate acts; but supporting Trump means you are allowing/tolerating hate. Which...makes you officially a bigot.
It is in the article. You should read ir
I've read the OP's article and a few others. The most recent article from Fox included this...
"When we reached out to the Chandler Unified School District, the spokesperson confirmed one of the students, Logan James, was suspended, but for a different reason. She told us she does plan to apologize to the school's staff for being defiant."
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.fox1...-students-reprimanded-for-wearing-maga-attire
And another included this...
Arizona’s Family learned that the student will be told of their punishment on Monday and if they will actually be suspended.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.az...ffc2c418-3d74-11e9-9c01-239581f0716c.amp.html
Like I've already said, if they were reprimanded strictly for wearing Trump gear the staff involved should at the very least apologize. But, the story seems to be changing a bit and the OP's article is pretty light on facts and very heavy on opinion. Those opinions, conveniently, all come from the same side of the coin.
The OP clearly stated that she refused to give school administrators her name until her mother got there.
I guess that was the "defiant" part?
The OP clearly stated that she refused to give school administrators her name until her mother got there.
I guess that was the "defiant" part?
When are you going to realize you are wrong. If you support Trump you are either:
1) a bigot; or
2) tolerating or turning a blind eye to bigotry.
Both are forms of bigotry. Whether you are passively or impassively racist is irrelevant. It may make you feel better that you’re not actively doing hate acts; but supporting Trump means you are allowing/tolerating hate. Which...makes you officially a bigot.
First the ruling doesn’t require a protest. But anytime a person makes a political statement they are in an obvious state of protesting its antithesis. That’s obvious and your point is weak. Tinker says a school must demonstrate a substantial disruption to its core mission to restrict a student’s first amendment rights. The school can’t just assert that without there actually being harms. The school is wrong and so are you and several other posters in this thread.
It's only the wrong side if the aggrieved mother is completely accurate in her analysis of the situation. The principal has said that the students were being disruptive during lunch and after school while on school grounds. Tinker v Des Moines explicitly states that students can't be punished for wearing black arms bands if they aren't being disruptive to normal disciplinary conduct and/or limiting the rights of others. If the students were causing a scene at lunch and were told to tone it down, but refused, they've given up the moral ground of peaceful protest in school. Since the students' privacy is protected all anyone has to go by is the word of the principal and the word of the upset mother. One of those people can't legally discuss the details, and the other is a secondary source that seems to be filling in the gaps of the story with a whole lot of assumptions and opinion.
It seems to me that there is obviously more to this story than these poor kids being specifically targeted for wearing Trump gear. If the kids were in fact being disruptive on their own accord and were given fair warning that their behavior was inappropriate, it's completely reasonable for the administrators to take action.
That said, if all they did was wear shirts and hats while following the rules of the school, then the school is completely wrong and those kids deserve an apology.
...and there we go.
Chanting Trumpisms and MAGAisms (or if the clothing incited others to start arguments) certainly fits that bill. And FWIW, the school banned any MAGA-wear for their weekend dance/event.
I've read the OP's article and a few others. The most recent article from Fox included this...
"When we reached out to the Chandler Unified School District, the spokesperson confirmed one of the students, Logan James, was suspended, but for a different reason. She told us she does plan to apologize to the school's staff for being defiant."
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.fox1...-students-reprimanded-for-wearing-maga-attire
And another included this...
Arizona’s Family learned that the student will be told of their punishment on Monday and if they will actually be suspended.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.az...ffc2c418-3d74-11e9-9c01-239581f0716c.amp.html
Like I've already said, if they were reprimanded strictly for wearing Trump gear the staff involved should at the very least apologize. But, the story seems to be changing a bit and the OP's article is pretty light on facts and very heavy on opinion. Those opinions, conveniently, all come from the same side of the coin.
the officer said she had been a part of a disruption all day
Right to remain silent until her mother gets there....
The kid isn't in trouble with the law, she's in trouble with her school. Vastly different standards of behavior. Also, as posted above a local paper learned yesterday that said student may not even be suspended and will have to wait until tomorrow to find out if she walks the plank or not.
Sure. What do you think a school resource.officer is in most.schools? Schools have also been notorious for questioning kids without their parents present and then turning whatever they get over to the police. She is very smart to wait for an adult that has her interests at heart to show up.
MAGA clearly refers to a time when segregation was legal and therefore should be considered hate speech.
Now, imagine you're a kid from a Muslim family, directly impacted by the original travel ban who has to see this crap at school.....
Not a "freedom of speech" issue; it's a school. If the school wants to have a policy against political messaging, and enforces it fairly, then pay the price if choose to violate the policy during school hours. Put on your shirt after the bell rings at the end of the day when you're off school property.
Not in high schools. It's a major distraction, and is why "freedom of speech" rights do not apply.
When are you going to realize you are wrong. If you support Trump you are either:
1) a bigot; or
2) tolerating or turning a blind eye to bigotry.
Both are forms of bigotry. Whether you are passively or impassively racist is irrelevant. It may make you feel better that you’re not actively doing hate acts; but supporting Trump means you are allowing/tolerating hate. Which...makes you officially a bigot.
You need help. I could refer you to some mental health professionals in your community.Yup...very true. Much like supporting a party in favor of killing live babies laying on the delivery table. I mean..you're not the actual murderer, If supporting the party who has these people as leaders? Wow. You're just supporting the murder of viable babies basically. But that's Democrats. You don't need to worry about that.
No, but it does show you support a racist and a bigot.Seriously when are you going to start realizing that just because you voted for Trump doesn’t make you a racist or bigot, etc. They aren’t mutually inclusive