Perry to ISU
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I hadn't heard this but I do know Jackson's contract is up.
I just went over to peruse the ISU board and I'm baffled that Jackson has such ardent support. They are completely irrelevant on the national scene.
I would like to see Perry there. I think a strong ISU is good for the sport. Jackson isn't the guy to get it done.
I just went over to peruse the ISU board and I'm baffled that Jackson has such ardent support. They are completely irrelevant on the national scene.
I would like to see Perry there. I think a strong ISU is good for the sport. Jackson isn't the guy to get it done.
Not saying they are a dynasty. Just saying a university with a national champion is far from completely irrelevant.
If Perry were to leave I would imagine a majority of the recruits would follow. What could their lineup look like? Obviously a lot of assumptions and projecting being thrown around.
If Perry were to leave I would imagine a majority of the recruits would follow. What could their lineup look like? Obviously a lot of assumptions and projecting being thrown around.
I really don't see this happening.
Perry was promised the head job at Illinois when Hefferman steps down.
Why would he leave for ISU when he has recuirted the studs that Illinois has.
But I guess never know way things happen now days.
Perry was promised the head job at Illinois when Hefferman steps down.
Why would he leave for ISU when he has recuirted the studs that Illinois has.
But I guess never know way things happen now days.
Obviously you don't get enough excitement on the goofer board. Classy is an assistant coach not trying to take recruits from a guy who gave him a job when he gets his own head coaching job or not trying to leverage his head coach out using another job offer. Illinois would be nuts to let their NC go free and clear. Iowa did it with Mocco but only because the head coach Zalesky gave his word he would let him transfer if he wanted when he signed him.
Classy is letting an athlete make a decision they feel is in their best interest. If IMar wants to follow Perry wherever (like Delgado did), who is Hef to deny that? I am guessing a lot of conversations occur during recruiting regarding coaches moving on and transferring.
Outside of the VaTech boys, who else has ever not been granted a release? Some come with limitations, but they still typically get to move on. Transfers in conference can complicate the situation due to conference transfer rules, but that isn't on the coach.
Outside of the VaTech boys, who else has ever not been granted a release? Some come with limitations, but they still typically get to move on. Transfers in conference can complicate the situation due to conference transfer rules, but that isn't on the coach.
The AD is the one who typically has the final say and if he does not want his team gutted he won't give a release. These schools invest in these wrestlers. The VT guys had a promise like Mocco had but it was not kept. None of them wrestled an official match for VT either. Who is Hef to deny it? His head coach that's who. Martinez signed an agreement and they can hold him to it if they want. The only guys who left ISU for Sanderson (who was head coach) were Taylor who never got to ISU and Brown who was a free agent after going on mission and his Brother Cyler. Then later Long went there after getting kicked off the ISU team. 3 other guys stayed at ISU and won titles there after Sanderson left.
Look at how well respected Kevin Jackson's decision to release David Taylor was received versus the outcry from the Va Tech situation. I guess I would assume Iowa fans would support the idea of if a kids wants to go, you should let him go. The negative ramifications of withholding a year of legibility could harm recruiting. Obviously it would be a tough decision, but like I said I think u gotta let them go especially if they have always vocalized that they came to train with and be mentored by Perry.
Cael and Jackson have refused to release guys. They are confused as being classy but are far from it.
This post was edited on 3/25 7:41 PM by hawkeyesports92
Pretty sure Tyler Clark had to sit a year when he transferred from K.J.'s ISU program to Iowa. He took a redshirt that year because he had it to burn, but pretty sure K.J. didn't grant his release.
Clark was not released to Iowa, ISU did not release wrestlers to anyone on their schedule. He had to sit since he chose Iowa.
And Jackson had no say in Taylor. He could have blown off ISU and his LOI would have been void in a year plus he never set foot at ISU as a student athlete, it was not like ISU had invested much in him. A bit different than letting a defending national champ skip out to follow an assistant coach.
Watching Flos documentary on Taylor, suggests it was Jackson who was finally able to release Taylor, afterTaylor had jumped through the hoops of the administration with no success.
I am not suggesting these coaches are real excited about granting release or don't try to talk the kid into staying. Releases are granted way more frequently than not. It will be interesting to see how it would all play out. However, I just don't see Perry leaving Illinois for ISU so we could just be wasting our time.
I am not suggesting these coaches are real excited about granting release or don't try to talk the kid into staying. Releases are granted way more frequently than not. It will be interesting to see how it would all play out. However, I just don't see Perry leaving Illinois for ISU so we could just be wasting our time.
or not.
http://archive.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2010/07/03/20100703arizona-state-wrestling-bubba-jenkins-transfer.html
"I don't like him at all," said Jenkins, whose release from Penn State to immediately compete
elsewhere prevented him from transferring to another Big Ten or Big 12 school. "He's not someone I would send my kid to or want leading my team. It was time to move."
In terms of semantics, yes, this is probably correct. However, I don't think Tyler had much, if any, interest in going anywhere but Iowa. So in his case, K.J. effectively refused to release him. A limited release doesn't do the transferring athlete a lot of good if his school of choice isn't among the schools to which he'd be released. It might as well have been a denial of his release.
It's the joke rules by NCAA concerning transfer. Imo, any STUDENT-athlete should be able leave any program at any time. Does the NCAA place limitations on music, drama, science scholarship/non scholarship participants?
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