Stieber, Tomasello, Martin, and Snyder won several individual championships Ohio State.
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just to throw a log on the fire... but we NEED a better recruiting system...we need a full time recruiting director or someone who does nothing but scout during certain times of the year and recruits their ass off the rest of the time. I want to say this with no disrespect but we have guys that we went after that are 3 and 4 time state champions and guys that have won this and that but they only end up being solid room guys and great teammates...but not able to even crack the lineup and we have had some weak spots recently... Hell we have guys moving up 2 or 3 weight classes to wrestle when we have a need.... that's not an ideal situation for the wrestler and looks bad for the team when we don't have back ups who are capable of not doing the job when given the opportunity . I can remember when we had an injury recently and sent a highly touted recruit out to wrestle and he looked like he was a total newbie to the sport... i mean what the hell kind of state championships do some of these states hold?? and maybe we recruit more guys like KemDawg who were consistent state place winners in a tougher state rather than a 4 time champion from a much weaker state. I KNOW we wont always get the top dollar guys because of NIL but we would certainly raise the level of the room wrestling to the "Iron sharpens Iron" level again.
Spot on. I’d be happier just knowing we attempted to get top dollar guys in the program rather than hearing from some of those guys that the Hawks never really showed much interest.
Some people come here to read his posts. Fan is short for fanatic. I’d rather hear from an Iowa fan who’s all in on his team than one who jumps ship as soon as the National Championships dry up. At least he’s trying to come up with solutions like most other Iowa wrestling fans are doing. He just has a different style.
Come on, I like @el dub. We are on other ends of the spectrum politically and I will surely give him the benefit of the doubt here, but it was not just a fraudulent slip of wording. Dub knows this and im not just talking about the mid term thing.
Dub is a good Iowa fan lets move on.
This is an area where I also believe we can do better. Getting out and after the top talent is absolutely necessary. I think the Hawkeye staff does well, but I think a bit more help is needed. There are so many factors that come into play with the recruitment process and there are many hands needed to make it possible. Times have changed and the program needs to be attractive at so many levels also. Not easy!
I should have just said parapraxis, Although I believe it still works there because I believe it was done with deception in mind.
Thanks for cutting me some slack, Grip.
A full time recruiting director/coordinator would be a very smart addition to the program.
What exactly is dumb about that post?
True. I didn't include them since Nashville_Hawkeye didn't mention them in his post I responded to. During the same time frame Ohio State had seven individual champions. I edited my original post accordingly.
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This is great stuff Cali Nittany. Shows that Iowa does a really good job of recruiting very talented wrestlers. The problem is the evil empire is recruiting the best of the best at most weights and we are getting the next best thing (other than Lee) and are left trying to turn the 2nd or 3rd best recruit at a weight into the champ. T n T are great at taking top 50 guys and making them into AAs. We just have to stop missing on the can't miss guys or we will never catch PSU. Quit looking for the diamonds in the rough and just go right to the jewelry store is what Iowa needs to get better at.
bacca & GRIP
I agree, 100%. Wrestling, just like football, has been putting the square peg in the round hole for the last 5 - 10 years. New blood is needed and that is probably most likely in the staff. Recruits know the young guys or the ones still competing - Nolf, Snyder, Marstellar or Taylor, plus those guys are the best wrestlers.
Observing the Chicago and southern Wisconsin wrestling landscape I’ve been frustrated by the lack of aggressive recruiting by the University of Iowa program in this region. A significant number of high school kids from this area are successfully recruited by Division-1 programs annually; albeit some personal issues Assad and Cassioppi are current Illinois area wrestlers at the University of Iowa.
Ben Davino (Saint Charles) was identified with great wrestling potential very early. The University of Iowa was late to that party. Possibly because Jesuroga (Southeast Polk High School) was Iowa’s principle recruit at this weight division(?). Recently Arron Stewart, a very talented sophomore at Warren Township High School has shown great potential in the middle weights. It is my understanding there has been very little if any contact from the Iowa wrestling program. Stewart should be a must contact/recruit for any wrestling program. Got to get after some of these kids.
Ben Davino (Saint Charles) was identified with great wrestling potential very early. The University of Iowa was late to that party. Possibly because Jesuroga (Southeast Polk High School) was Iowa’s principle recruit at this weight division(?). Recently Arron Stewart, a very talented sophomore at Warren Township High School has shown great potential in the middle weights. It is my understanding there has been very little if any contact from the Iowa wrestling program. Stewart should be a must contact/recruit for any wrestling program. Got to get after some of these kids.
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Thank you for this informative post. It’s almost like we expect these guys to recruit themselves.
This.
We had our chance to hit when the iron was hot with Metcalf and company.
Today, kids want autographs from Bo Nickal and Zain Retherford…..and Spencer Lee.
Big names matter. A lot.
You serious Clark? All I’ve seen is substance-induced rants about F*** State and how they buy thier champions and championships. What’s his solution, besides exclaiming a lot and coming up with weird nicknames?
He’s the anti-recruiting tool, making us look like lunatics.
Sanderson is a Glock, or more like Gaston Glock. He changed the game. The more I have learned about the PSU program the more I see how they have left no stone unturned with training, recovery, nutrition psychology, recruiting etc.
Gaston Glock revolutionized the firearms industry and he was attacked from all sides, those who want to ban guns and the firearms industry due to his innovations. Roughly 40 or so years later it's the most popular handgun and everyone is making a polymer pistol.
About the same time Glock put out his handgun I was in college and powerlifting. I looked into various psychology books, training books etc. to train to help my efforts. Years later I saw Louie Simmons , the powerlifting guru talking about Soviet training methods, this was after the fall of the Union. These ideas weren't as commonplace as they are now, and younger guys like Sanderson jumped on them. My take.
The information is out there and everyone will be following suit soon if they aren't already doing so.
Gaston Glock revolutionized the firearms industry and he was attacked from all sides, those who want to ban guns and the firearms industry due to his innovations. Roughly 40 or so years later it's the most popular handgun and everyone is making a polymer pistol.
About the same time Glock put out his handgun I was in college and powerlifting. I looked into various psychology books, training books etc. to train to help my efforts. Years later I saw Louie Simmons , the powerlifting guru talking about Soviet training methods, this was after the fall of the Union. These ideas weren't as commonplace as they are now, and younger guys like Sanderson jumped on them. My take.
The information is out there and everyone will be following suit soon if they aren't already doing so.
dude. Its impressive how you find a way to turn every situation into a powerlifting story, but stop it.
No one wants to hear about your powerlifting.
Say whaaaat? I wish it was satire. At least its so over the top that most people realize he’s in a class of his own.
shoot i like ibird he trolls the trolls with the best of them. same as grip, lw and myself i love when the psters show up here but am not going to let them have free reign. bird and grip are so under their skin they don't even know when they are being stupid.
Well PSU is winning at great rate and how they are doing it goes beyond just working harder. Iowa is way behind in many areas because Sanderson changed the game. He left no stone unturned, happier now? I assume all the problems are now fixed.
I'd rather read the powerlifting stuff over Carl and psu crap...
Wait, are you talking about the great Faleure? I mean, I guess if you concentrate on his 4 State Championships, 4 National Championships, 3 Hodge Trophies, 4 National OW's, his being the only undefeated wrestler in NCAA history, his FS Olympic Gold medal, his 235-26-2 coaching record, his 98 All Americans and 36 Individual NCAA champions that he coached in 17 years, and his 10 coaching national team titles in the last 13 years they were held, you might consider him slightly successful. However, the great minds can see through all of that B.S. It has been nothing but, luck, cheating and money from the FAT man that accomplished this, so, he is the Great Faleure.
I mean even if you overlook the obvious luck, cheating and $$$, his accomplishments don't event take much talent. Truly talented people can take people's name's and come up with hilarious nicknames to put them down. It's been my contention that particular skill truly shows how great a human being is. I mean seriously, when you can recruit top end guys, like Frank MORONaro, David FAILore, Ed TRUTHISHECHEATS, Matt CLOWN, Nico MegaLOONEY, Pain CHEATerford, Mark HallOFSHAME, Bo PENNY and others, of course you are going to win.
I bet you are strutting around with your chest out like you just did something impressive.
I'm glad I've got better things to do with my life than go to a rival forum and beat on my chest.
F everythng psu...
Of course a PSU fan would choose the outdated, tiny kong(notice I didn't even capitalize it)How did you know?
Here is what a "real man" would use!
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Come on now, you can’t put yourself and others in Ironbirds class. He’s on a level all by himself. IMHO the only one who comes close is bourbon and blues. He trolls Iowa so hard pretending to talk wrestling and then makes it all about himself, his family, power lifting and now gun making. Two totally different styles but expert trolls in how they do it.
See, that’s the other part of it. IB(S) just feeds the trolls truckloads of ammunition to come on here and stir the pot. We don’t need to incite that kind of trouble, it just turns the board to junk and makes people angry.
Tell me where I am wrong?
They do so at their own peril!!!
Uhh a little low, but even way back then you could clearly see what $$$$ can do!
Made several VERY clear points! Take ANY of the top 20-30 coaches and give them the sam e% of top recruits and tell me how they would have done?
OK, lets try it like this. the great Fale-ure at F*** st has at least 5X the top recruits as any other team. So lets just do this. Say IOWA had 3 Lee's, 3 KemDawgs, and 3 Bulls in their line up. I use them because they were all high recruits with different levels of success which seems like a fair deal
so the HAWKS roll at Spencer Lee at 125, a KemDawg type at 133, a Bull type at 141, another Lee, Bull, Kem, etc....
Here you have 9 weights filled with that kind of talent and one weight open. That is just THREE TIMES the recruiting that we have had not the FIVE!!!
With that line up, tell me if we would have ever lost? A LEE type is almost always bonus victories, Kem, and Bull you would need absolute studs to beat! So the obvious answer is no way you lose a dual.
Now move on to NCAAs, LEE is a buzzsaw and the only thing that can beat him is injuries, Bull did not have great success at NCAAs although I believe he would have won the shut down year. KemDawg pretty good success. Without doing much math, this seems to also win titles going away.
Thank you, my friend! I knew one of you smart guys would have the answer and I was thinking that Iowa wouldn't look all too well in the results. We have just sucked at preparing our guys for NCAAs! And I don't think we're as smart as we need to be during NCAAs. Case in point I thought it was dumb as hell to have Spencer Lee take bottom to start the 2nd period during the QF (I think it was) when he was already up 8-0 or something like that and riding the kid from Lock Haven like a pony. Instead of putting SL on top and having him work a couple tilts for the win one of the master minds had him take bottom where he struggled to get out and eventually won by MD. Just made no fricking sense to me. We (our coaches) have to be smarter come tourney time. And I'm not saying anyone else is smarter than TnT; I'm saying we can do better at prepping and decision making...in my very humble opinion. And no, I don't think I could do better...I know I would suck. But I'm not getting paid the big bucks.
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