No, I’m asking you, since you’re the one who said Jesus was a commie. (Note; He wasn’t.)
Pope Francis is heading towards eternity...
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How do they still have it after Francis basically killed it? He killed the one at Georgia Tech my son went to. And it wasn't even the Tridentine, it was just the Latin Novus Ordo.
I’m aware, I’m not pinning the coverup on Francis, he inherited most of this that didn’t happen on his watch.The coverups ended in 2002 with the Dallas Charter reforms...way before Pope Francis became Pope.
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The church hierarchy in Africa is pretty staunchly conservative, and Arinze used to be brought up frequently going back years. It will happen eventually, and honestly, maybe needs to happen soon as the persecution of Christians in Africa is becoming a pretty serious thing. There's a pretty serious Christian vs Muslim showdown looming, which all the nice European progressives would like to continue to ignore, but I'm not sure how long the Church can ignore it. In Africa, and to a lesser extent Europe.
Essentially, the Catholic Church is only really viable/meaningful right now in Africa, Latin America, the United States and Eastern Europe. Out of those, Africa is conservative. The US is traditionally moderate to liberal, but everyone knows the future is 100% conservative for Catholics in the US. Eastern Europe, while not as conservative as at one time, still trends conservative. Latin America is all over the place, but certainly has liberal and conservative elements.
It's just really hard for me to see them shoe-horning another liberal pope in there, when the only places the faith thrives are generally right leaning. In addition...the Church has already bled all its going to bleed to the secularists and evangelicals. The danger now is losing members to the orthodox churches who offer, well more orthodoxy and formality. If the church does not feed the surging traditional catholic movement, they will start bleeding those folks to Orthodox churches.
But in Western Europe and Canada...the faith is basically dead. It's just hard to justify liberal Western European popes in the near future. Considering that the trend is to kind of ping pong back and forth between more liberal and more conservative popes, I have to think a more moderately conservative pope, probably from outside Western Europe, is in order.
I don't understand the questions exactly? The answers are yes, and no.
I'm assuming by mouthpiece of God, you are talking about the ability of the pope to speak infallibly on matters of faith and morals. Only very rarely, like once every hundred years, does a pope speak Ex Cathedra, meaning its an infallible statement on faith and morals.
None of our recent popes have spoken Ex Cathedra, I think the last time it happened was in the 1950s.
nope, there is some very limited authority for bishops to authorize it to continue; i believe that burbridge has allowed it at like 2-3 parishes.
but at least not like that asshole gregory, who actually went so far as to prohibit a visiting foreign bishop from celebrating it in DC.
Edit: actually, a few more than 2-3: https://www.arlingtondiocese.org/20...ional-latin-mass-in-the-diocese-of-arlington/
But note some of the locations -- St. John in mclean was fr. scalia's parish, and front royal is not only where christendom is but is also one of the few explosively growing catholic communities you will find.
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dude, you have to look at the voting eligible cardinals, and more specifically, who it was that invested them.
but strange things happen in conclaves, and as I've said in the past, we usually end up with the pope that we need at a given time.
I believe the current mod policy is ragebait for clicks. Nothing else much matters.
yep. honestly, i'm sure it's not an accident in light of the us ambassador to the vatican.Did you read about the new D.C. cardinal?
He's heterodox. Big time.
i have to say, it's nice that the arlington diocese is not within the dc metropolitan's jurisdiction.
come on over across that river Brian, the water's warm!
BTW, FWIW, my buddy's list of papabile. (He gets into this stuff like kids studied baseball pokemon cards):
1. Tagle - Manila
2. Parolin - Vatican Secy of State
3. Besungu - Kinshasa
4. Turkson - Ghana
5. Erdo - Hungary
6. Tempesta - Brazil
7. Zuppi - Italy
8. Pizzabolla - Holy Land
9. Filoni - Vatican bureaucracy, with China/mideast expertise
10. O'Malley - Boston
1. Tagle - Manila
2. Parolin - Vatican Secy of State
3. Besungu - Kinshasa
4. Turkson - Ghana
5. Erdo - Hungary
6. Tempesta - Brazil
7. Zuppi - Italy
8. Pizzabolla - Holy Land
9. Filoni - Vatican bureaucracy, with China/mideast expertise
10. O'Malley - Boston
You got Gregory from us in Atlanta. You are welcome.
but for the fact that DC's getting mclroy, i'd say, 'and don't let the door hit you on your way out..."
Honestly, not that DC has a particularly good track record in the 21st century as far as archbishops go, but Gregory was just a complete nothingburger.
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I've been reading up a bit, I honestly don't follow it that closely when it's not in play.
Tagle seems like the one true Francis-like progressive, with a few moderates, and quite a few conservatives. I wonder if having all the liberal-minded lining up behind one guy gives him an inside track.
If he lives, his quality of life may be bad. He's 88 and may be bedridden.
It may be better if he passes away. I'll pray for whatever is best.
Maybe we'll get "lucky" and have Father James Martin as our 2nd Jesuit Pope. 😆
Yep.
He's heterodox big time.
The good thing is...this crowd is dying out. It was a weird thing for the 90s and 2000s as you would go to a church and see an old priest, and in most areas of life, you see an older person and you think conservative. But the priests ordained in the 70s and 80s were the worst...the most heterodox and liberal. I would groan every time I saw an old priest. The exception was usually those who got ordained a bit older, and it didn't necessarily hold if they were from outside the US.
They can't last forever, although obviously priests don't exactly retire at 65 LOL. And it's not going to change overnight, as you have a mixed bag for priests younger. But the future is bright for the church in the united states, there just aren't that many McElroys coming up. I bet there are virtually none under 40, and not many from 40-70.
I had an Irish priest say in church one time (tongue in cheek) "God save us from the Jesuits" LOL.
Some Jesuits are really good.
Father Robert Spitzer is one...the former President of Gonzaga University.
Father Spitzer has a show each Wednesday on EWTN.
Why are they doing any life-extending intervention and not just comfort care? Isn't this guy the king of the "everyone gets to go live for ever and ever and ever in a magic fairy land of pure, unadulterated bliss" sales pitch? Why the hell would he want his life extended? Quite the contrary, if he really believes what he's selling, shouldn't he actually be insisting that they not hook him up to any machines or tubes? After all, he's soooo f---ing close to the big payoff!
Well some might argue that it rises to the level of near-duty not only to cherish and hold on to life as a gift, but also to bear the indignities of modern medicine as a testimony to suffering.
When a man of the collar retires, does he forfeit his retirement if he decides to marry?
Honest question
Honest question
I'm going to bet no, because it's still probably a plan regulated under ERISA, at least in this country.
He would be defrocked, no? Seems like it would be dicey if the pension or whatever could be negated for that. And also, since there a not insignificant number of married catholic priests in good standing as it is, that would complicate it.
And also, it would just encourage hiding such a relationship.
That said, I think a priest needs official approval to retire, and it's generally pretty late, so I doubt it's a super common issue.
I bet there might be benefits around housing that might be unavailable though.
See it for yourself and judge. Some folks believe that any story that presents these leaders as anything other than Christlike in the manner in which they operate is anti-Catholic. These are just men and all of them are flawed in some way. It is not anti-Catholic IMO.
Wow, coming from the guy who protects the board pedophile @JimStarr777. Nice to see you’re a hypocrite on this subject too, just like you are in every other subject eh flip flopper?
What are you talking about? What happened with @JimStarr777 and when? I am not privy and how the F am I “protecting him” you goddamned idiot?
Don’t worry, your bitch-ass will flip flop on ol Jimmy. As predictable as the tides coming in & out, so is you changing your mind then asking the mod to delete previous threads. Such a pussy.
Get back to deleting previous threads because you have no gumption. You’re even worse than pedo Jim.
