I guess one positive we can take from this season is that we won eight games with a very average defense. Can we imagine the carnage of pairing this 2024 defense with a Brian Ferentz led offense and a non Big Ten West schedule?!? It’s a big positive we didn’t have to see that happen!
Positive Regarding Brian Ferentz
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Our offense was greatly improved. We still can’t compete against a top 25 team right now. Brian took this offense off a cliff and Lester is just starting to rebuild it.
I can just see Brian watching this bowl game and thinking, “The defense was never this bad when I was there. I left and look what happens to this team. We can’t play defense! See Dad we were right. I should have never been let go.”
Is he still getting rent reduced housing?
Running game was improved but passing is still broken with a Northwestern hand me down qb, watching some of these bowl games if Iowa does not get some major portal contributors the passing game will be the same next year. Call Koc of the Vikes for some advice as he seems to be a qb whisperer
Well, they competed reasonably well against #19 Missouri, but your point is well taken. Brian drove the offense into the ground and it’s going to take a minute to recover.
It’ll be interesting to see what unfolds at North Carolina with Bill Belichick and his son running the show this coming fall. Some folks are expecting greatness right off the bat; I expect a train wreck and traffic slowing to a crawl due to an exorbitant amount of rubbernecking
That "NW hand me down" turns out to be a very good QB. I think he is the best since CJB and not far from CJB. CJB had an OL to help him out. Sullivan's passing is very good as is his scrambling ability. He did quite well behind the sieve.
Long story short: When I watch these other bowl games, I'm so jealous. These teams look good. They make good plays. Fun. Exciting.
And then there's watching Iowa. WTF is wrong with us? It's so juvenile. When we complete a pass that's NOT a pass to a running back in the 'flat,' I'm like "wow, we just had a good pass play." How sad.....
And then there's watching Iowa. WTF is wrong with us? It's so juvenile. When we complete a pass that's NOT a pass to a running back in the 'flat,' I'm like "wow, we just had a good pass play." How sad.....
“Very good” is an overstatement. Is he competent? Yeah he is but that is mostly cause we are comparing it to what we’ve had in the past 5 yrs. He’s a good runner with a decent arm. He is not CJB in terms of a passer and it isnt close. CJB has played multiple yrs in the NFL with a handful of starts, Sully will not
CJB has only been a back up, so, your statement that Sully won't make the NFL is most likely true.
He is not better than Stanley. That's just silly.
I would take him over Stanley. Stanley was far superior at the QB sneak; but, Sullivan has far superior wheels.
I hated Stanley almost all the time but, sadly, he was so much better than all the jokers we've cycled through since.
How did we get here..............Good God, how TF did we get here...
You really have no idea what qualifies as good QB play, do you?
I remember being frustrated with Stanley all the time because he had no accuracy past 15 yards. He almost never completed a wide open long ball and ran like a snow plow. The NFL draft experts made mention of this also.
We got here because Kirk decided that offense was unimportant by promoting his son to OC and sticking with him to the short and long term detriment of the program.
It's been so bad for so long that an Iowa fan is arguing with me that Sullivan is a better QB than Stanley. The whole place has gone batshit crazy over this debacle.
The long ball was not his friend, but he could stand in the pocket, go through progressions, and throw darts through tight windows. That's what every high quality QB can do. That's what Sullivan hasn't done.
Sullivan completed 14 of 18 with one TD and 1 int. He was only sacked twice behind the sieve. He picked up a couple 1st downs using his feet. Stanley would have been sacked 6 times and not pick up a single 1st down with his feet. KJ gave credit to Sully for making the defense have to account for him instead of just targeting on KJ. Don't you ever think about these things?
He was terribly inaccurate and had little pocket presence. That being said, he was better than what we've seen since, which is very cringeworthy and embarrassing.
Of course I think about these things. I like Sully. He was great in the first half. Guy can make some great throws and has excellent running ability, but he struggles mightily at times with the mental aspects of the position. He's a runner first and seems to lack the pocket presence and situational awareness that all good QB's possess. Because of this he exits the pocket before he has to. He rarely makes a good throw after escaping a rush and appears completely rattled at times as was the case in the second half against Mizzou. He completed like 5 passes for 40 yards in the second half. It wasn't all in him but that won't win games.
Not better and not even close to as good. Stanley was a very good QB, very underrated
Clearly showing that you dont know much. What does Stanley’s draft profile have to do with anything? Now show Sully’s draft profile….oh, yeah he wont have one
Well a certain poster/Ferentz fluffer is adamant the defensive decline was due to reduced emphasis on the defense because implementing the new offense somehow stole time/resources from the defense.
Belicheat only took that job because he is looking for a younger woman. The 24-year-old has too many miles on her.
I’ll never understand these guys who think offense and defense are a zero sum game
Stanley had Wirfs and Jackson at OT...both NFL starters. He had Hockensen and Fant...both NFL TEs. He had IKM..still in NFL at WR and the other two receivers weren't garbage (unllike the receivers the last few years). Brian Ferentz helped collect a lot of that talent and then he didn't know how to use it. BF and KF let the wheels fall off until they were at the Bottom of college football.
Stanley was a good QB...he was a lot more athletic than BF/KF let him be....Stanley was capable of making some plays with his feet but under BF/KF he was never allowed to run/or never coached to run. Stanley wasn't much of a Deep passer. The offense Peaked for BF in Stanley's last couple years and then the Age of Petras began the steady decline.
Brian is not stupid but he didn't have a creative offensive miknd. He just needs to look in the mirror and recognize he blew it, it was 100% his fault, and try to learn from other coaches if he wants to be an OC or head coach again.
Or go down to Div2.
The OP is correct, BF + this year's defense would have been a losing season.
We scored 3 points in the second half
17 total for offense
He looked very competent for the first few drives. Then after he tried to play hero ball he fell apart.
He will not survive a full season playing as reckless as he does.
He also appears to have some Petras in him that he panics the moment there’s light pressure.
Yes he can scramble, but his sack on the last drive killed any chance.
Let’s not discuss his shitting the bed on the sneak
Honestly, it’s hard to say. Stanley had probably the best receivers since the 2002 team. 3 future NFL players. Sullivan has arguably the worst. I do like Sullivan’s potential. We need to get him some better receivers.
Devils advocate just for fun (bc I am not a Bf fan). But what games did we win this year that we would not have won with BF as OC? Said differently, which games did we win bc of Lester?
Probably the Washington game….or at the very least I think Lester has shown more creative playcalling ability and helps to increase scoring and margin of victory. Passing game needs to take a huge step forward though
It is spin for saying your family member got mistreated and they were right and the world was wrong from 21-23.
One thing I haven't seen discussed is Sullivan doesn't look comfortable taking a direct snap. That was part of the problem on that play but why didn't they sprint to the line and run it before the defense got set? That play was a fail on many levels.
Not buying it. The second half was entirely on the coaches. They shut down and played not to lose. Missouri made adjustments at half and Iowa made adjustments by going into a shell.
Then let’s fire the coaching staff so wr can get some in who know how to use talent
Otherwise what’s going to change ?
Otherwise what’s going to change ?
