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Problems in the locker room?

BonzoFury

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It was implied somewhere else that there is some internal conflict on the team. Anyone have some insight into this?
 
I NEVER said there was a problem I did "imply "IF there was a problem because it has happened before! Not just the pregnancy thing, the Pierce thing, the Kingsberry thing among a few others. It may explain the last 3 games. As far as pure speculation 3/4s of the comments on the site are speculations, who's going to stay who's going to leave, why is Fran doing this or that.
 
I NEVER said there was a problem I did "imply "IF there was a problem because it has happened before! Not just the pregnancy thing, the Pierce thing, the Kingsberry thing among a few others. It may explain the last 3 games. As far as pure speculation 3/4s of the comments on the site are speculations, who's going to stay who's going to leave, why is Fran doing this or that.
wasn't referring to you.
 
I NEVER said there was a problem I did "imply "IF there was a problem because it has happened before! Not just the pregnancy thing, the Pierce thing, the Kingsberry thing among a few others. It may explain the last 3 games. As far as pure speculation 3/4s of the comments on the site are speculations, who's going to stay who's going to leave, why is Fran doing this or that.
Not sure it's fair to suggest trouble on the team without evidence, even on an anonymous message board. Ugly rumors get started that way.
 
Kris definitely appeared disconnected. I know the kid rarely smiles but he had a different demeanor the last couple weeks . None of them really looked enthralled with the game. Except for Payton! Love his attitude
I don't know if this was a side effect of the supposed internal conflict or not, or whatever is going on .... but very early in the game on Thursday night, Kris was in the general vicinity of a potential defensive rebound but he just stood there and watched an Auburn guy grab the loose ball. He didn't even take the tiniest step towards it.

I remember being stunned and frustrated at the absolute lack of energy or awareness on that sequence.
 
I don't know if this was a side effect of the supposed internal conflict or not, or whatever is going on .... but very early in the game on Thursday night, Kris was in the general vicinity of a potential defensive rebound but he just stood there and watched an Auburn guy grab the loose ball. He didn't even take the tiniest step towards it.

I remember being stunned and frustrated at the absolute lack of energy or awareness on that sequence.
I saw the same thing...even early in the game when guys should be fired up... flat-footed staring at defensive rebounds while Auburn guys went after them. Fran may be losing more than just some of the fans. Having your kid, much less two of them, on the team is always tricky.
 
I don't know if this was a side effect of the supposed internal conflict or not, or whatever is going on .... but very early in the game on Thursday night, Kris was in the general vicinity of a potential defensive rebound but he just stood there and watched an Auburn guy grab the loose ball. He didn't even take the tiniest step towards it.

I remember being stunned and frustrated at the absolute lack of energy or awareness on that sequence.
There was at least one other time I recall that same scenario with Kris. Don’t remember the game, later in the B1G season, big game. Connor jumped all over him (and rightfully so).
 
I think Fran's '2 Foul Jail' is nearly as big a wedge maker in any team cracks as his sons' playing time.

How many times in the past 2 years did Kris (or anyone else) pick up an early 2 fouls - rightfully or not - and was left to rot on the bench until after halftime?

Way too many.
 
I have absolutely NO info on this, but just going by body language and attitudes the last few games, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if there was some internal conflict amongst the team.
Yeah something more than basketball is going on. No idea what it is.
 
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I don't know if this was a side effect of the supposed internal conflict or not, or whatever is going on .... but very early in the game on Thursday night, Kris was in the general vicinity of a potential defensive rebound but he just stood there and watched an Auburn guy grab the loose ball. He didn't even take the tiniest step towards it.

I remember being stunned and frustrated at the absolute lack of energy or awareness on that sequence.
Wonder if you have made a similar post for Pat and his effort level
 
Kris definitely appeared disconnected. I know the kid rarely smiles but he had a different demeanor the last couple weeks . None of them really looked enthralled with the game. Except for Payton! Love his attitude
Yes it's most noticeable in Kris and it's more than just 3 games, 5 or 6 at least. I thought it was just something with him but maybe it's more. Who knows.
 
I think Fran's '2 Foul Jail' is nearly as big a wedge maker in any team cracks as his sons' playing time.

How many times in the past 2 years did Kris (or anyone else) pick up an early 2 fouls - rightfully or not - and was left to rot on the bench until after halftime?

Way too many.
You gotta be phuquin' kidding me, right?
 
Players looking unhappy during a 3 game losing streak? Big news, if true.

Iowa was down 17 with 10 minutes left. They could have easily folded and given up. They fought back and cut the lead to 4 in the closing minutes. That doesn't happen if the players are checked out.

Fans are frustrated, want a change, and are making shit up.
 
Wonder if you have made a similar post for Pat and his effort level
That would hardly be earth shattering since there are countless posts on this site about that very subject, which I'm sure your aware. Pmac also isn't supposedly a first round draft pick, which just MAY raise the level of the fans expectations of said player?
 
Haven’t heard a peep of locker room issues I think they just never fully jelled as a team - we do know Patrick had massive anxiety but they all seemed supportive. Seems more like an on-court issue to me…
 
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That would hardly be earth shattering since there are countless posts on this site about that very subject, which I'm sure your aware. Pmac also isn't supposedly a first round draft pick, which just MAY raise the level of the fans expectations of said player?
Besides leading the team in scoring Kris led the team in rebounding too at 7.9. What exactly are your expectations if 7.9 boards a game isn't good enough? 9? 10? Kid must have had a great season if people can remember the handful of lapses over a 33 game season FFS. Shame on him for not being perfect

And no Pat won't sniff the NBA but it didn't keep Fran from starting Pat and playing him more all last season. People should just be thankful Kris came back, I'm surprised we didn't hear about more problems with Fran's blatant nepotism. It's bullshit
 
I NEVER said there was a problem I did "imply "IF there was a problem because it has happened before! Not just the pregnancy thing, the Pierce thing, the Kingsberry thing among a few others. It may explain the last 3 games. As far as pure speculation 3/4s of the comments on the site are speculations, who's going to stay who's going to leave, why is Fran doing this or that.
Refresh. Pregnancy thing?
 
That would hardly be earth shattering since there are countless posts on this site about that very subject, which I'm sure your aware. Pmac also isn't supposedly a first round draft pick, which just MAY raise the level of the fans expectations of said player?
First team All Big 10 and 3rd team AA, clearly didn't do enough for this team.

Must defend the coaches son's and be critical of the other players. It was so cool when Connor would yell at the other players
 
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