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Maricopa County was subject to a complete audit conducted by a firm hired by Arizona Republicans and other Trump supporters specifically to find voter fraud.

the audit ended up ADDING to bidens margin of victory

Arizonas AG (a Republican) then used the audit for a further investigation. It found nothing of merit

so ...no there were no issues in Maricopa county
 
Maricopa County was subject to a complete audit conducted by a firm hired by Arizona Republicans and other Trump supporters specifically to find voter fraud.

the audit ended up ADDING to bidens margin of victory

Arizonas AG (a Republican) then used the audit for a further investigation. It found nothing of merit

so ...no there were no issues in Maricopa county
I am not disputing any of that; however, as of 1/6, these things did not take place as of yet. Timing is of importance.
 
I am not disputing any of that; however, as of 1/6, these things did not take place as of yet. Timing is of importance.
there was no evidence supporting claims of voter fraud...it was all just disputrs based on nothing but people not liking the results

it's not like those that voted to decertify have come out and owned up to anything

Is this what we're good with now? if people don't like the results, just refuse to acknowledge th election...

it's a pattern with trump...he even accused ted cruz of stealing votes in Iowa in 2016 when he lost the caucus. when he loses - he claims fraud...no evidence required
 
there was no evidence supporting claims of voter fraud...it was all just disputrs based on nothing but people not liking the results

it's not like those that voted to decertify have come out and owned up to anything

Is this what we're good with now? if people don't like the results, just refuse to acknowledge th election...

it's a pattern with trump...he even accused ted cruz of stealing votes in Iowa in 2016 when he lost the caucus. when he loses - he claims fraud...no evidence required
WRONG!!! It is well documented that there were voting sites that were having major problems allowing people to vote. This is NOT disputed. You already knew this. Are you trying to be deceptive?
 
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Maricopa County was subject to a complete audit conducted by a firm hired by Arizona Republicans and other Trump supporters specifically to find voter fraud.

the audit ended up ADDING to bidens margin of victory

Arizonas AG (a Republican) then used the audit for a further investigation. It found nothing of merit

so ...no there were no issues in Maricopa county
It’s interesting how some folks don’t read the news or realize the fanatics may be the first to cheat.
 
WRONG!!! It is well documented that there were voting sites that were having major problems allowing people to vote. This is NOT disputed. You already knew this. Are you trying to be deceptive?
there were issues with ballot processing that lead to longer wait times...of about 30 minutes. people were still able to vote, the issue was with scanning them.

At the end of November, Maricopa county election officials (lead by a republican) released a report about the ballot scanning problem, as well as a sampling audit of the votes that showed no issue or discrepancy

So...no. on Jan 6 there was no outstanding issue with Maricopa county. the vote to not certify was due to not liking the results...that's it.
 
there were issues with ballot processing that lead to longer wait times...of about 30 minutes. people were still able to vote, the issue was with scanning them.

At the end of November, Maricopa county election officials (lead by a republican) released a report about the ballot scanning problem, as well as a sampling audit of the votes that showed no issue or discrepancy

So...no. on Jan 6 there was no outstanding issue with Maricopa county. the vote to not certify was due to not liking the results...that's it.
I can’t understand how some fail to grasp that reality. Or that attempts to alter certified election results are felony offenses. Interestingly, swing states targeted, including AZ and GA are controlled by republicans. Republicans certified the results. Apparently Trump seemed to believe those state representatives would be easier to persuade to commit election fraud. I do t think he expected that cohort to uphold the constitution or election integrity. But facts is facts and 92 felony charges over four jurisdictions beg to differ.
 
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It’s almost like there’s no wrestling to talk about right now and the same subjects haven’t been discussed ad nauseum in 20 different threads.

I’ve never blocked anyone. Never have or ever will. Not even a PSU fan, MSU158, or Spoons. I don’t take this that seriously.
Yea I can say the same. I have yet to block anyone. Come close on some of the psu trolls. As for Spooner and I and the issues he has with me all I can say is to each their own. I try to respect my fellow Hawk fans.
 
I voted for Trump both times and plan on doing it again. If you believe we are better off without him I would say you are crazy. It’s ok we can disagree and that’s fine with me. I can respect what you believe until you don’t respect my beliefs. Oh by the way I know he lost
 
I am not disputing any of that; however, as of 1/6, these things did not take place as of yet. Timing is of importance.

The politicians you support are fascists. This is an indisputable fact. They are not pro democracy.

They tried to overturn a free and fair democratic election. That's as unAmerican as it gets.

You're twisting yourself into a pretzel justifying their actions and your support for them, but there is no reasonable justification.
 
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I voted for Trump both times and plan on doing it again. If you believe we are better off without him I would say you are crazy. It’s ok we can disagree and that’s fine with me. I can respect what you believe until you don’t respect my beliefs. Oh by the way I know he lost

You're a cultist nutjob. Explicitly stating that you're ok with fascism by continuing to support Trump. Pathetic and unAmerican.
 
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there were issues with ballot processing that lead to longer wait times...of about 30 minutes. people were still able to vote, the issue was with scanning them.

At the end of November, Maricopa county election officials (lead by a republican) released a report about the ballot scanning problem, as well as a sampling audit of the votes that showed no issue or discrepancy

So...no. on Jan 6 there was no outstanding issue with Maricopa county. the vote to not certify was due to not liking the results...that's it.
You don't know what you are talking about. Please note the date of this article and linked article contained within. Here, I'll help you. "Feb 22, 2023"
 
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You're a cultist nutjob. Explicitly stating that you're ok with fascism by continuing to support Trump. Pathetic and unAmerican.
It’s ok for you to feel that way I am not going to argue with you. Believe what you want I will believe what I want. To say he is unAmerican is a bit crazy though. He will and has always put America first. I am not going to stoop to name calling and all of that. You can believe what you want and I won’t attack you that’s part of the problem.
 
The politicians you support are fascists. This is an indisputable fact. They are not pro democracy.

They tried to overturn a free and fair democratic election. That's as unAmerican as it gets.

You're twisting yourself into a pretzel justifying their actions and your support for them, but there is no reasonable justification.
Why do you keep on insisting on misrepresenting my position. All I ever wanted was to make sure the election was clean. Yes, Trump carried it too far. I think he really believed that he won and wanted much investigation. That is not a crime. Remember, Al Gore did it too.
 
It’s ok for you to feel that way I am not going to argue with you. Believe what you want I will believe what I want. To say he is unAmerican is a bit crazy though. He will and has always put America first. I am not going to stoop to name calling and all of that. You can believe what you want and I won’t attack you that’s part of the problem.
Pretty sure he’s always put himself first.
 
Why do you keep on insisting on misrepresenting my position. All I ever wanted was to make sure the election was clean. Yes, Trump carried it too far. I think he really believed that he won and wanted much investigation. That is not a crime. Remember, Al Gore did it too.
He didn't just want an investigation. He wanted to overturn the results. Comparing the audit after Al Gore Bush is insanely disingenuous. You just can't be taken seriously and have absolutely no credibility when you make outrageous statements like that.
 
It’s ok for you to feel that way I am not going to argue with you. Believe what you want I will believe what I want. To say he is unAmerican is a bit crazy though. He will and has always put America first. I am not going to stoop to name calling and all of that. You can believe what you want and I won’t attack you that’s part of the problem.

Fascism is unAmerican. Not respecting elections and the peaceful transfer of power is unAmerican. You deserve to be shamed and ridiculed and insulted.

It isn't about "belief". You don't "believe" objective facts. That's a huge problem. You're in a radical cult.
 
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You don't know what you are talking about. Please note the date of this article and linked article contained within. Here, I'll help you. "Feb 22, 2023"
no, that was the results of the fishing expedition that produced -shockingly - NOTHING!

I was talking about the normal audits that occur (here) that shows nothing and Arizona AG - a republican - stating no evidence of voter fraud (here). Both of these happened well before Jan 6. this is why the trump campaign dropped their lawsuit by mid November 2020

I know it's confusing because of the many many failed efforts to throw something against the wall and hope it sticks, but there was no specific issue still to be investigated on Jan 6 other than the fact that Trump didn't have more votes than biden
 
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there were issues with ballot processing that lead to longer wait times...of about 30 minutes. people were still able to vote, the issue was with scanning them.

At the end of November, Maricopa county election officials (lead by a republican) released a report about the ballot scanning problem, as well as a sampling audit of the votes that showed no issue or discrepancy

So...no. on Jan 6 there was no outstanding issue with Maricopa county. the vote to not certify was due to not liking the results...that's it.
You sure sugarcoat what went on in Maricopa County
 
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You sure sugarcoat what went on in Maricopa County
feel free to actually say what went on in Maricopa county instead of vague references

and then tell me why the republican AG said there was no proof of voter fraud

the objections were based on trump not winning - that was the only real problem. admitting the truth will set you free
 
Fascism is unAmerican. Not respecting elections and the peaceful transfer of power is unAmerican. You deserve to be shamed and ridiculed and insulted.

It isn't about "belief". You don't "believe" objective facts. That's a huge problem. You're in a radical cult.
I don't know how you are claiming that fascism is in the Republican party? There may be a few closest cases, but I haven't seen it.

The only fascism I've seen lately is people burning and looting cities for a race. Believing one race is better than another is the true definition of fascism. In Nazi Germany, there were Socialist Nazis and Right wing Nazis. It was the believing that one race was better than another.
 
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I don't know how you are claiming that fascism is in the Republican party? There may be a few closest cases, but I haven't seen it.

The only fascism I've seen lately is people burning and looting cities for a race. Believing one race is better than another is the true definition of fascism. In Nazi Germany, there were Socialist Nazis and Right wing Nazis. It was the believing that one race was better than another.
I’m sorry that’s not fascism. Trump is a psychopathic authoritarian dictator wannabe. That’s fascism.
 
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I don't know how you are claiming that fascism is in the Republican party? There may be a few closest cases, but I haven't seen it.

The only fascism I've seen lately is people burning and looting cities for a race. Believing one race is better than another is the true definition of fascism. In Nazi Germany, there were Socialist Nazis and Right wing Nazis. It was the believing that one race was better than another.
I’ve never seen so many wrong things one after the other posted to this forum.
 
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"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"​

 
I’m sorry that’s not fascism. Trump is a psychopathic authoritarian dictator wannabe. That’s fascism.
He was elected and then unelected. Dictators aren't elected then unelected. Throwing terms out there that aren't true is reckless. And it is fascism. No comment about what happened with the riots and how they were closer fascism than Trump? And don't give me a wiki crap. Anyone can get on there and change it.

Trump's a spoiled brat who's used to getting his way. That's it nothing more. He has always gotten what he wants. He didn't this time and threw a fit. I don't believe (and you'll never change my mind) that he ever wanted to take over the US. He just wanted to do things that he thought he would get praised for. He's egotistical and likes the attention. You don't like him, I myself don't like him, but to make him out to be the boogy man isn't accurate at all.
 
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I’ve never seen so many wrong things one after the other posted to this forum.
Thanks. And you did such a great job explaining how I was wrong that I bow to such articulated intelligence.

Brainwashed is no way to go through life.
 
I’m sorry that’s not fascism. Trump is a psychopathic authoritarian dictator wannabe. That’s fascism.
Straight from Webster's dictionary

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

I see the democratic party closer to this definition than anything.
Look at California. In many voting districts there's only one party that gets out of the primary's. (Regime)
Exalts nation and often race (that's everywhere in the party)
The forcible suppression of opposition. They have countless times of this and well documented.
In my opinion, Obama turned the FBI, IRS and others into Brown shirts.
 
He was elected and then unelected. Dictators aren't elected then unelected. Throwing terms out there that aren't true is reckless. And it is fascism. No comment about what happened with the riots and how they were closer fascism than Trump? And don't give me a wiki crap. Anyone can get on there and change it.

Trump's a spoiled brat who's used to getting his way. That's it nothing more. He has always gotten what he wants. He didn't this time and threw a fit. I don't believe (and you'll never change my mind) that he ever wanted to take over the US. He just wanted to do things that he thought he would get praised for. He's egotistical and likes the attention. You don't like him, I myself don't like him, but to make him out to be the boogy man isn't accurate at all.

He is a failed dictator. Make no mistake, if he had it his way, he would still be "president" (dictator) despite losing the election. He made attempts at overturning the election in multiple ways. We are just very fortunate that he is an incompetent and incapable man.

The joint chiefs of staff put out a public message explicitly stating that they wouldn't partake in a coup and they would uphold the constitution and the result of the 2020 election.


Mark Milley, the nation's highest general explicitly stated that he feared Trump would attempt a coup. For this, Trump called for Mark Milley's execution.


You're a delusional brainwashed cultist for not recognizing the reality of the 2020 election and Trump's response. Trump has finally been indicted for his crimes. He will be tried. He will be found guilty. And he will be sentenced to effectively life in prison. That's my prediction. I feel extremely confident about his guilt. I feel slightly less confident about him being held to true account. I fear that the DOJ and judges will give him house arrest instead which would not be justice. I fear that they will let the GQP continue their politization of calling the indictments and trials witch hunts and that Trump and the GQP politicians and propaganda networks will continue to stoke violence and stochastic terrorism as a reaction to his trial which will deter the judges from giving him the sentences that he deserves.

Patriotic Americans are going to continue to defend the constitution, and condemn Trump, MAGA, and anyone supporting him. The time to jump ship was years ago. If you're still sympathizing and defending him today (which you clearly are), you are going to be ostracized and outcast by normal Americans who aren't indoctrinated into the cult. We think you're crazy and complicit with the attack on democracy.
 
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1 shithead cop.
huh? Is this in reference to Derek Chauvin? You think only 1 cop has committed police brutality? That's a wildly insane level of ignorance. There are countless examples of police brutality captured on video just within the past few years. And the majority of these resulted in no consequences for the police. The protests against police brutality has brought about positive change. There is no widespread usage of body cams, and police are finally being held accountable in a way that they hadn't in the past.
 
He is a failed dictator. Make no mistake, if he had it his way, he would still be "president" (dictator) despite losing the election. He made attempts at overturning the election in multiple ways. We are just very fortunate that he is an incompetent and incapable man.

The joint chiefs of staff put out a public message explicitly stating that they wouldn't partake in a coup and they would uphold the constitution and the result of the 2020 election.


Mark Milley, the nation's highest general explicitly stated that he feared Trump would attempt a coup. For this, Trump called for Mark Milley's execution.


You're a delusional brainwashed cultist for not recognizing the reality of the 2020 election and Trump's response. Trump has finally been indicted for his crimes. He will be tried. He will be found guilty. And he will be sentenced to effectively life in prison. That's my prediction. I feel extremely confident about his guilt. I feel slightly less confident about him being held to true account. I fear that the DOJ and judges will give him house arrest instead which would not be justice. I fear that they will let the GQP continue their politization of calling the indictments and trials witch hunts and that Trump and the GQP politicians and propaganda networks will continue to stoke violence and stochastic terrorism as a reaction to his trial which will deter the judges from giving him the sentences that he deserves.

Patriotic Americans are going to continue to defend the constitution, and condemn Trump, MAGA, and anyone supporting him. The time to jump ship was years ago. If you're still sympathizing and defending him today (which you clearly are), you are going to be ostracized and outcast by normal Americans who aren't indoctrinated into the cult. We think you're crazy and complicit with the attack on democracy.
Why are your posts all the same?
Here I'll help you out. You can copy and paste this to save you some time in the future.

Blah blah blah blah Trump's a fascist blah blah blah blah blah blah Jan 6th blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah MAGA cultist blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Trump blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Jan 6th blah blah blah dictator blah blah blah blah blah MAGA cultist blah blah blah blah blah blah.

There I hope that helps you.
 
huh? Is this in reference to Derek Chauvin? You think only 1 cop has committed police brutality? That's a wildly insane level of ignorance. There are countless examples of police brutality captured on video just within the past few years. And the majority of these resulted in no consequences for the police. The protests against police brutality has brought about positive change. There is no widespread usage of body cams, and police are finally being held accountable in a way that they hadn't in the past.
I'm sorry 100% of all cops have taken the Hitler course of law enforcement and are set on continuing the legacy. Get a life. Look at the FBI findings. The race that were killed by police the most were white people.
 
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