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So, all 3 of the Gomez family members were greeted with racial slurs? And, that's what prompted the "in your head" tweet? Wow, not sure I would have tweeted that after being racially assaulted...just saying
I can understand a young man Austin's age tweeting that. I'd attribute it to trying to strike back in a way to insult those from whom he felt insulted. Maybe the Tweet doesn't reflect the best mature judgment, but I don't expect that kind of judgment 100% of the time from young men his age.
 
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I can understand a young man Austin's age tweeting that. I'd attribute it to trying to strike back in a way to insult those from whom he felt insulted. Maybe the Tweet doesn't reflect the best mature judgment, but I don't expect that kind of judgment 100% of the time from young men his age.
I don't know how to embed Tweets on here, but did any one else notice Hector Gomez tweeted at 3-4 different account including @smalls103 saying Austin hadn't been contacted by Iowa several hours after Austin had posted his tweet stating that he had a phone call set up with U of I Admin.

I have no doubt that there is a REAL possibility that what they are saying happened, but the family is certainly using this to capitalize off the situation and make Iowa and the fan base look as bad as possible.
 
The part I don't understand is that he didn't want to blame the guy or point him out because he wouldnt want him to not able to attend wresting matches again?
Austin said he didn't see who said it. He pointed out the person yelling in the Mineo Tweet pic was not the person from whom he heard the slur. Austin said he knew what the pictured guy said, and he didn't want the pictured guy to be banned.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Austin has not talked to anyone from IOWA yet ! <a href="https://t.co/7LVyTEQ5Yi">https://t.co/7LVyTEQ5Yi</a></p>&mdash; Hector Gomez (@chasingtitles1) <a href="">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don’t owe this to anyone but I wanted to make a statement about what happened this past weekend at CHA. I appreciate all the support from everyone. <br><br>The Wisconsin faculty and I have been contacted and have a phone call set up for tomorrow with personnel from Iowa. <br><br>GO BADGERS <a href="https://t.co/TwNeP0xPvh">pic.twitter.com/TwNeP0xPvh</a></p>&mdash; Austin Gomez (@agomez_149) <a href="">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I don't know how to embed Tweets on here, but did any one else notice Hector Gomez tweeted at 3-4 different account including @smalls103 saying Austin hadn't been contacted by Iowa several hours after Austin had posted his tweet stating that he had a phone call set up with U of I Admin.

I have no doubt that there is a REAL possibility that what they are saying happened, but the family is certainly using this to capitalize off the situation and make Iowa and the fan base look as bad as possible.
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I have no doubt that there is a REAL possibility that what they are saying happened, but the family is certainly using this to capitalize off the situation and make Iowa and the fan base look as bad as possible.
I equally have no doubts that Iowa haters are going to hate, the vast majority of Hawkeye wrestling fans are good people, and the vast majority of recruits are smart enough to recognize this person as an outlier.

That said, I think the comments on this board that continue to impugn Austin's motives or claim he and his family were overly sensitized into mishearing are giving the Iowa fan base a far worse look. Parents and wrestlers read these threads.

Keep making fun of "wokeness" and risk completely missing out on the best of future wrestling generations.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Austin has not talked to anyone from IOWA yet ! <a href="https://t.co/7LVyTEQ5Yi">https://t.co/7LVyTEQ5Yi</a></p>&mdash; Hector Gomez (@chasingtitles1) <a href=" ">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don’t owe this to anyone but I wanted to make a statement about what happened this past weekend at CHA. I appreciate all the support from everyone. <br><br>The Wisconsin faculty and I have been contacted and have a phone call set up for tomorrow with personnel from Iowa. <br><br>GO BADGERS <a href="https://t.co/TwNeP0xPvh">pic.twitter.com/TwNeP0xPvh</a></p>&mdash; Austin Gomez (@agomez_149) <a href=" ">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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I can take Hector's Tweet as an update. I guess the Gomez family thought the Iowa communication was more urgent than it later appeared to them to be. Maybe they are anxious for it to happen to put the whole thing behind them.
 
I equally have no doubts that Iowa haters are going to hate, the vast majority of Hawkeye wrestling fans are good people, and the vast majority of recruits are smart enough to recognize this person as an outlier.

That said, I think the comments on this board that continue to impugn Austin's motives or claim he and his family were overly sensitized into mishearing are giving the Iowa fan base a far worse look. Parents and wrestlers read these threads.

Keep making fun of "wokeness" and risk completely missing out on the best of future wrestling generations.
i don't disagree with you regarding many of the posts. However, why is Hector Tweeting out 3 hours after Ausints Tweet that Austin still "had not talked to anyone from Iowa". It is misrepresenting the situation, especially considering he is doing so on Mineo's account who is always trashing Iowa.

At best, he hadn't talked to Austin yet (why tweet this out 3+ times then?). At worst he is fully aware of the situation and is choosing to misrepresent it
 
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i don't disagree with you regarding many of the posts. However, why is Hector Tweeting out 3 hours after Ausints Tweet that Austin still "had not talked to anyone from Iowa". It is misrepresenting the situation, especially considering he is doing so on Mineo's account who is always trashing Iowa.

At best, he hadn't talked to Austin yet (why tweet this out 3+ times then?). At worst he is fully aware of the situation and is choosing to misrepresent it
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Why think ill-intent first?
 
Oh gawd, Dumbeo is involved…this is looking more and more like tweedledee and tweedledum. Gonna have to check out of this thread. Anyone reading on I advise putting your aluminum foil cap on.
 
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Why think ill-intent first?
I don't see how its an update at all. Austin provided the update 3 hours prior that a call was arranged. Do you think this call took place between 9 PM and 12 AM? What is to update?

I didn't think any ill intent in this matter until I saw Hector's tweets.

In regard to the actual matter of something racist being said by an Iowa fan to Austin or his family is completely out of line. Austin handled this situation better than Hector
 
Do you think this call took place between 9 PM and 12 AM? What is to update?
I assume one or more of his Twitter followers who may have asked.

Honestly, who follows Hector Gomez?

FYI - 164 people follow him including other parents of Wisconsin wrestlers, Wisconsin Wrestling coaches, relatives, and Stalemates.

Seems more likely to me that Mineo checked Hector's Tweet and reTweeted it. Maybe to stir the pot. Maybe to create disruption as Coach Brands alleged certain unnamed social media personalities may be want to do.
 
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I assume one or more of his Twitter followers who may have asked.

Honestly, who follows Hector Gomez?

Seems more likely to me that Mineo checked Hector's Tweet and reTweeted it. Maybe to stir the pot. Maybe to create disruption as Coach Brands alleged certain unnamed social media personalities may be want to do.
Maybe I should have shown one of the other tweets. In each instance, Hector is directly replying to someone with a larger audience, not tweeting out to his followers

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Austin Gomez has not been talked too ! <a href="https://t.co/9oNyv0y1qP">https://t.co/9oNyv0y1qP</a></p>&mdash; Hector Gomez (@chasingtitles1) <a href="">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Austin Gomez has not been talked too yet ! <a href="https://t.co/Q3nJbDpAGK">https://t.co/Q3nJbDpAGK</a></p>&mdash; Hector Gomez (@chasingtitles1) <a href="">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Edit: to add this is my last post on this subject. I don't like being this negative regarding people, particularly ones that I don't know. Just asking for patience to let the U of I do some due diligence without the mob jumping down their throats for one fan's (or handful of fans?) actions.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They did not talk to Austin ! <a href="https://t.co/zusEzbwPBg">https://t.co/zusEzbwPBg</a></p>&mdash; Hector Gomez (@chasingtitles1) <a href="">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Additionaly, he tweeted this out this morning:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/jyqvhsmXDh">https://t.co/jyqvhsmXDh</a></p>&mdash; Hector Gomez (@chasingtitles1) <a href="">February 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Also Mineo posted screen shots of Hector saying the same thing on his Facebook group.

He literally posted it everywhere. I'm not sure how this isn't a malicious thing to demonize Iowa, it's wrestling program, and/or it's fanbase.

I absolutely understand his outrage about the comment and wanting something done about it. But you have to give the University time to investigate so they know who the correct party is to be punished. Of course Tom Brands can't speak on it at his press conference until an investigation is done.
 
Yeah, I think that we need to reconsider beer sales at Carver. Maybe that works for volleyball, but wrestling, like all other "combat" sports, tends to bring out a lot of bluster, particularly if it's lubricated with sufficient alcohol. I like beer as much as almost anyone, maybe more, but aggression commonly rises after a few too many.

This is not to excuse racist remarks or taunting of the any visiting athlete's family, as that sort of ugly behavior should have no place in Carver. If they catch some jerk on tape doing this, then ban them for five years.
It's a two hour match, how do you manage to drink enough at Carver to become an a$$hole? Either the problem is pre-match alcohol consumed somewhere else, or the person is already an a$$hole and just happens to be holding a beer purchased at Carver.
 
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Maybe I should have shown one of the other tweets. In each instance, Hector is directly replying to someone with a larger audience, not tweeting out to his followers
I see your point.

What more can I say? I believe a concerned father wanted to make clear that Iowa Administrators had not yet spoke with his son, for whatever reason. Perhaps he wanted to clarify what others had thought in speaking with him. Perhaps he wanted to keep the pressure on Iowa Administrators to follow through.

It's clear that they "reached out to" does not mean they had spoke with, hence the planned call for today.
 
It's a two hour match, how do you manage to drink enough at Carver to become an a$$hole? Either the problem is pre-match alcohol consumed somewhere else, or the person is already an a$$hole and just happens to be holding a beer purchased at Carver.
Good points. However, from my personal experience, one can get sh*tfaced faster than you might think.
 



I would hope and even ask that Jack share this with the proper people at Iowa. No need for the public to know, but at least provide it to the University so they can properly deal with it. No reason to say you have video of it then not do anything with it.
Obscenities or racial slurs? There is a huge difference, not that either is warranted.
 
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I equally have no doubts that Iowa haters are going to hate, the vast majority of Hawkeye wrestling fans are good people, and the vast majority of recruits are smart enough to recognize this person as an outlier.

That said, I think the comments on this board that continue to impugn Austin's motives or claim he and his family were overly sensitized into mishearing are giving the Iowa fan base a far worse look. Parents and wrestlers read these threads.

Keep making fun of "wokeness" and risk completely missing out on the best of future wrestling generations.
Some bad apples do poison the well for everyone else, but if we are less than charitable to Gomez and his family, we make things much worse. If some loudmouth is shown harassing Gomez on video, let's find him, and U of I can make an example of him.
 
I see your point.

What more can I say? I believe a concerned father wanted to make clear that Iowa Administrators had not yet spoke with his son, for whatever reason. Perhaps he wanted to clarify what others had thought in speaking with him. Perhaps he wanted to keep the pressure on Iowa Administrators to follow through.

It's clear that they "reached out to" does not mean they had spoke with, hence the planned call for today.
agreed. appreciate the reasonable discourse. I usually avoid posting due to many internet warriors only wanting to 'fight'
 
If we want to be open-minded and sensitive---given all thd crowd noise and disputed ability to hear--the UNSUB could have been a woman with a deep voice, and "him" my not be their preferred pronoun.
Could have….

But it’s a scientifically proven fact that the average man does dumber things in social situations than the average female.
 
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agreed. appreciate the reasonable discourse. I usually avoid posting due to many internet warriors only wanting to 'fight'
I suspect that the people following Austin's Twitter may not be the same who follow Hector's. Hector may not even fully aware of Austin's 9PM Tweet. Hector follows over 500 others, and a quick scan revealed Mineo but I didn't see Austin (granted it may be there).
 
Could have….

But it’s a scientifically proven fact that the average man does dumber things in social situations than the average female.
But fan is short for FAN-atic, as I have recently read on HR at least twice. And if I know fanatics, they do things with a gusto well above average. They may only be exceeded by zealots. I might put a zealot cisgender female Iowan ahead of an average cisgender male Iowan.
 
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They definitely don’t like to hear the truth over there
What are the odds they drag the Gomez controversy out as long as they tried to keep the Iowa/ISU post match theatrics alive?

Bunch of snowflake pussies reside there.

Continually getting piss pounded can do that to you.

They need a diversion.
 
But fan is short for FAN-atic, as I have recently read on HR at least twice. And if I know fanatics do things with a gusto well above average. They may only be exceeded by zealots. I might put a zealot cisgender female Iowan ahead of an average cisgender male Iowan.
Huh? Statistics say Iowa Man is more prone to violence than Iowa Woman. That’s a fact.
 
Sad and pathetic if true. Question though.... Hundreds of people if not thousands were around him. How come no one else heard this slur except a guy who loathes the Hawks? I will wait for independent confirmation before passing judgement.

Does treating some one as guilty before proof count as "boorish behavior"? Or is innocent until proven guilty irrelevant for racist/sexual allegations against white males? Wokeism is racist and intolerant hypocrisy .

As loud as Carver gets I suspect Gomez heard what he wanted to... and he is just where he wants to be... at the center of attention. I will be happy to admit I am wrong should the proof be provided. But meanwhile, Is his perceived slur the same as an actual/real slur?
How come no one turned in the guy who threw the water bottle at Starocci? The silence is deafening.
 
How come no one turned in the guy who threw the water bottle at Starocci? The silence is deafening.
Well, are you sure it happened? We’ll need to see notarized witness statements along with their personal contact info… You know…. just to be super sure.

Btw, please quit conflating our (supposedly) drunken fan’s behavior with (made up,) racist, drunken fans.
 
What are the odds they drag the Gomez controversy out as long as they tried to keep the Iowa/ISU post match theatrics alive?

Bunch of snowflake pussies reside there.

Continually getting piss pounded can do that to you.

They need a diversion.
It’s 7 pages long on that shitty board 😂
 
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How come no one turned in the guy who threw the water bottle at Starocci? The silence is deafening.
While I am sure that someone had to see who it was...I can also say from personal experience that one could have been as close as 15' to 25' away from the perpetrator and also not be able to clearly identify them. It was a full crowd and people were mostly focused on the action down below on the mat.

FWIW, there were several PSU fans closer to the thrower than I was and judging by their collective reaction...they couldn't tell who it was either.

I think it is worthwhile for UI officials to lay down a clear understanding of what repercussions would be, should it ever happen again. And those repercussions should be stout, including some form of criminal assault charges, etc., not to mention banishment from future athletic contests.
 
Didn't read all 4 pages but here is a gem from the Original Poster on the basketball forum



Besides the Murrays, we have no freaking talent. Someone refute me on this point. The other players play like they have a combination of Parkinson's and Huntington's Diseases. Why is recruiting so freaking pathetic? Perkins? Toussaint? Is one of the criteria to be recruited to Iowa that you have 0 ball handling skills, and play out of control the whole freaking time?

You know what was hilarious? They zoomed in on the bench during one of the time outs and all I was was short white guys pretending to be black making some signs in the air. This is the future. Holy crap. We are doomed.
 
How can any PSU fan come to another board and try to get into a battle of university wide moral behavior?
Well, it’s like the this…. lol

Some of those fans are prolly celebrating the fact that there is trouble in River City after so many opposing fans visited their sites hurling insults due to the whole “bad touch,” era.

But you didn’t hear that from me….
 
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How can any PSU fan come to another board and try to get into a battle of university wide moral behavior?
You're kidding right? Sandusky has been all over this board, and our board, for over 10 years. Here you guys sit on your high pedestal denying your racist environment that using @armbartilt phrase "Hundreds of people if not thousands were around" to witness. Further, at TWO different events this happened yet Iowa fans turned there collective heads. What a shame.

And now, when trapped in a corner you respond seamlessly with...but, but what about Sandusky? Karma!
 
A-hole’s are everywhere and guys like Gomez baiting them brings out their worst. Sounds like two offending parties who deserve to be stuck in a car with each other for 12 hours. Ha.

Nothing tops Philadelphia Eagles fans throwing battery packed snowballs at Santa Clause. Except maybe Philadelphia Flyers players and fans fighting in the stands. Knew a guy involved in those brawls he enjoyed it but was also dumb and in his 20’s. Times were different in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Ill take the name calling we have to put up with these days even though I don’t like it.
funny story--an nfl olineman was asked who the worst fans were and he said the raiders, Said they would have batteries and stuff lobbed at them in warmups. Said there was one guy that used to throw bullets but they were the same kind this lineman used so he liked going there, picked them up when ever he could
 
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