this wins the internet today !! this is EXACTLY the scenario that is playing out !! Seems like everyone is innocent of any wrong doing UNLESS you're in an Iowa Singlet
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This might be the best post I’ve read on HR detailing the hypocrisy that exists around the Iowa wrestling team. Well stated, well argued.
Then he brings up us complaining about Penn State paying athletes for years. Well Penn State wrestling was just like SEC football paying before anyone else could . Look what the big 10 was able to do once they were legally able to start paying.
The only difference is Penn State wrestling is like Texas football if you close Texas am, Texas tech, and oklahoma while simultaneously giving Texas all their money. Recruiting haven with the most money, and momentum built from years of being the only payer.
Two things can be true:
1) Willie is pretty consistent about hating the poaching, while saying he would do the same thing because it's apparently legal. Perfectly reasonable opinion.
2) He's a Nebraska homer, had a few beers, and got pissed off because his guys almost beat Iowa for the first time in forever (maybe ever?). The Angelo tweet was bush league. That's just petty resentment.
1) Willie is pretty consistent about hating the poaching, while saying he would do the same thing because it's apparently legal. Perfectly reasonable opinion.
2) He's a Nebraska homer, had a few beers, and got pissed off because his guys almost beat Iowa for the first time in forever (maybe ever?). The Angelo tweet was bush league. That's just petty resentment.
alrighty then, i guess i do have to explain.
Kyle Parco and Stephen Buchanan - both of whom AAd since their very first year and both of whom have one year left, won you the dual on Friday.
that's it. period. it's the gist of my tweet.
if you want to compare Teams A, B, C, D fine, let's do it. but it doesn't change the above fact.
and you can write a cute little paragraph to make yourself feel better but the situations w/ Parco, Teemer and Buchanan are not remotely similar to Mesenbrink or Kerk.
i've been abundantly clear and consistent on the poaching stuff. legal or illegal. i hate it and it doesn't sit well with me.
whether it's Tom or Cael or Dresser or Bormet or John Smith's staff. (this is where you say 'but you don't call them out' even though i have)
Kyle Parco and Stephen Buchanan - both of whom AAd since their very first year and both of whom have one year left, won you the dual on Friday.
that's it. period. it's the gist of my tweet.
if you want to compare Teams A, B, C, D fine, let's do it. but it doesn't change the above fact.
and you can write a cute little paragraph to make yourself feel better but the situations w/ Parco, Teemer and Buchanan are not remotely similar to Mesenbrink or Kerk.
i've been abundantly clear and consistent on the poaching stuff. legal or illegal. i hate it and it doesn't sit well with me.
whether it's Tom or Cael or Dresser or Bormet or John Smith's staff. (this is where you say 'but you don't call them out' even though i have)
Angelo is happy in Iowa City and is and will be taken care of. I can guarantee you that no one has talked to Angelo himself about this or his family. Wrestling twitter is a man's soap opera just stop giving it any validity
another disingenuous post.
i didn't say there was division nor did i ever take shots at Angelo.
Your first comment on Angelo committing was that Carl wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole.
You can think it's scummy all you want but it's not against the rules. So if others are doing it and you're not then you fall behind. Cheating is something that you can say I don't morally agree with but saying people who are following the rules have no morals is a you problem. What about DT and his staff going after Drake was that ok or was it scummy?
So Iowa beat Nebraska playing by the rules. Just as they’ve done since 2005. And if the rules were different history says they Probly still win. No portal or NIL recruiting strategy changes.
Now explain how it’s different from Max Dean and Bernie Truax. They were also buying Wick, but couldn’t get him through admissions. Convenient omissions.
Feel free to also go into detail on Fish, Amine, Hamiti and Hendrickson at Okie St. I’m sure none of them got paid and I’m sure they won’t have any impact on the upcoming dual in Iowa City.
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i literally just said it might be legal and i still disagree with it. part of this whole conversation (and my underlying feelings) is that the whole landscape of ncaa sports is grimy af currently.
I also never said anyone 'didn't have morals'. i said i didn't like it.
that was a response to him joking with a PSU hat. psu wasn't even in the picture.
What's grimy is everyone throwing around #s that can't be confirmed which makes it look even more grimy . Hopefully someday all NIL deals will be made public
Making inflammatory and untrue statements then blaming us for your wrong doing?
Just out of curiosity, what sort of creative accounting did you use to come up with the transfer numbers? I count 2 in the lineup for team A and 3 total on the roster (third is out for the season), and both starters transferred before or during their respective redshirt years and are not mercenaries bought after multiple AA years. On the other hand, I count 5 total transfers in the lineup for team C and 6 total on the roster (sixth hasn't cracked the lineup since transferring last year). Of the 5 starters, only 2 are long term transfers and 3 mercenaries.
Max Dean was leaving Cornell. there was beef there. Bernie went in the portal. Wick went in the portal. nothing similar to what's happened recently.
Hamiti and Hendrickson was 'tampering,' legal or illegal i hated it. and it was a wrap before NCAA's was over. IDK what Fish's situation was. Amine had a falling out at UM and frankly i don't recall the timeline or details (or if he went in the portal). i was close with him and his dad during the recruiting process and OKST was his dream school but the family tradition won out originally.
this is all to say - yes - it's sh!t show and i wish there were actual portal rules. cold calling is bs imo. maybe legal. and maybe you're gonna do what ya gotta do to win. but i don't have to like it.
You know Bernie was contacted in January and that deal was done before NCAAs.
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To bad he’s so psycho. He could have wrestled anywhere, if he didn’t have the load of BS he carries around.
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he'll be Iowa's 97 next year
have you talked about how Hamiti was in Stillwater right after nationals last year/before entering the portal? is that not poaching?
edit: I see that you have now done so in this thread. i have not seen you publicly talk about hamiti/ hendrickson/ or OKST poaching guys at all until now.
Maybe I'm missing it when you do, but it seems most here haven't seen it either
you seem to be revealing more info here now then you have done in the past - which is all we really want. If you're going to release the "numbers" about Iowa or take shots about poaching, then do it all around.
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This is going just how this pathetic loser planned. He’s nothing more than a simple troll here.
I’m sure I missed your tweet but how much did osu pay to beat Little Rock?
Oklahoma State 25, Little Rock 13
125: #4 Troy Spratley (OKST) over Jayden Carson (LR) (TF 18-1 4:11)
133: #8 Nasir Bailey (LR) over #18 Reece Witcraft (OKST) (MD 12-0)
141: #6 Tagen Jamison (OKST) over Brennan Van Hoecke (LR) (Dec 8-2)
149: #20 Jordan Williams (LR) over #12 Carter Young (OKST) (TB-1 3-2)
157: #22 Matty Bianchi (LR) over #12 Caleb Fish (OKST) (Fall 5:26)
165: #6 Cameron Amine (OKST) over #31 Joseph Bianchi (LR) (Dec 4-2)
174: #3 Dean Hamiti (OKST) over Tyler Brennan (LR) (Dec 6-1)
184:#3 Dustin Plott (OKST) over #15 Brock DelSignore (LR) (Dec 7-2)
197: #7 Luke Surber (OKST) over #5 Stephen Little (LR) (Dec 5-4)
285: #3 Wyatt Hendrickson (OKST) over Keith Miley (LR) (TF 16-1 2:30)
Nagao to PSU was known before he entered the portal as well.
you have a point there. that actually crossed my mind at the time.
however, you'd have to do some work to figure out if they truly won solely do to the transfers and then plug in who their backups would be. (also Jordan Williams was a okst defector)
Chill chill chill. You’re hitting a little too close to home for me too, brother. Choker chains and doc martens should still be tits.
oh neat. now you know what i was aware of in January of 2023.
i don't recall what i knew then. wasn't he in the portal for quite a while? he definitely received an offer from iowa.
And would you look at that?
Tagen Jamison - 3 pts
Cam Amine - 3 pts
Dean Hamiti - 3 pts
Wyatt Hendrickson - 5 pts
14 points....it appears to be transfers made the difference in Okey St. beating little ol' Little Rock.
Without the portal guys with the current roster and who's healthy it would be
157 Cutter Sheets
165 Colin Young
174 Ben Mower
Hwt Doucet
Flip the results at 165 and 174 it's 19-19. And I highly doubt Doucet would tech.
I don't forget much and I know it was discussed in a chat that you were in. Iowa did try to offer him but he was set on Penn st .
hey, Socrates,
now account for who would be in the lineup instead. you can't assume they all still lose.
Ohhhh yeah, my bad....when it's Iowa having transfers it's bad. Okey St. is good. I forgot the rules of Willie-opoly.
