You’re right it’s crazy to think Trump and his base would try to overturn the election results.Lib fear porn.
You’re right it’s crazy to think Trump and his base would try to overturn the election results.Lib fear porn.
I could be missing out. Of course there were a gaggle of Trump related predictions that didn't turn out. So I need some evidence to get me there.You’ll get your evidence in November. I’ll say it again, Marc Elias has been fighting this crap for 4 years. If he says it’s happening, it’s happening. He’s also very concerned it’s going to work. Not good at all.
That’s the part that is becoming concerning.MAGAs won’t even care. These guys seem really confident so they know something.
Oh here we go with the left denying the election results again. 0
The issue isn’t whether or not a final tally would have given Gore the win. The issue is that the final tally was not allowed to be made.Wait, you’re an election denier?
I mean, even after the New York Times and other new agencies went over the votes together?
Wow. What do you think happened that the NYT and others missed?
EXAMINING THE VOTE: THE OVERVIEW; Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/...d-florida-ballots-finds-justices-did-not.html
She could have spun a bunch of bullshit right there.
What we need is evidence of a republican plan to styme election results across states. That's what I'm looking for. That they have bunch of their people in place that plan to do X.
Trump spouting off is hard to take conclusively one way or another. (aside from being obviously stupid and creepy)
This thread is trolling gold. Gotta hand this one to OP.
Thing is, a good % of Maddow viewers will absolutely believe this.
That is one helluva conspiracy theory.
It's interesting that the idea of circumventing the traditional election process is being dismissed as absurd considering that is exactly what happened last time around.
The Dems accepted it so well in 2016... Burning cities and destroying business nationwide is so much more admirable than what right wing extremists did on Jan 6...Because certainly nothing we have seen in the last four years suggests anything but the most gracious of behavior and acceptance of the will of the people on the part of the GOP.
This has the same energy as saying that nobody had anything to worry about with abortion.This thread is trolling gold. Gotta hand this one to OP.
Thing is, a good % of Maddow viewers will absolutely believe this.
They will have thought at that point they saved America. They won’t start thinking they screwed up until shit really goes down and those rural middle class Magas resemble how Russians live outside of their large cities…MAGAs won’t even care. These guys seem really confident so they know something.
Link to burning cities and business being destroyed in 2016.The Dems accepted it so well in 2016... Burning cities and destroying business nationwide is so much more admirable than what right wing extremists did on Jan 6...
sorry, not much high ground to be had by either party there.
The video clips were cut very short to remove context, per usual. There's a very real reason MSNBC doesn't show trump live... He doesn't sound dangerous if you hear all of what he says.
Do you think the Dems new word..."weird" is good strategy? I'm not so sure. Although I saw Kamala pivoted her message to trying to sound like she was tough on illegal immigrants, which is smart. Maybe they're giving up on "orange man bad" and going to talk policy? That would be refreshing.
Link to burning cities and business being destroyed in 2016.
How do they stop them if the GQP send a replacement group of electors.For a while I've worried that SCOTUS will buy whatever flimsy argument Trump gives them to hand him the election. This clip doesn't make me feel much better about my paranoia.
That said, Dems are raising record amounts of cash. July alone should top $450 million. I hope that they are using a good portion of that to safeguard against the guaranteed rigging the Rs have in store for us.
Biden uses the immunity ruling?How do they stop them if the GQP send a replacement group of electors.
Link to burning cities and business being destroyed in 2016.
Lemme guess, it is on page 25 of project 25, and it is spelled out clearly!!Conspiracy theories suggest work done undercover and secretively to fool everyone. This is completely in the open with no attempt to fool a soul - just take power by any means necessary.
Really?!? Were you 10 years old then? Here's one link that literally took 10 seconds of googling to find, but you might want to educate yourself a bit.Link to burning cities and business being destroyed in 2016.
Burning cities? LOL, just STFU. What a fantastic fairytale. Were there protests? Sure, but your description is humorous and hysterical. What a snowflake you are.The Dems accepted it so well in 2016... Burning cities and destroying business nationwide is so much more admirable than what right wing extremists did on Jan 6...
sorry, not much high ground to be had by either party there.
The video clips were cut very short to remove context, per usual. There's a very real reason MSNBC doesn't show trump live... He doesn't sound dangerous if you hear all of what he says.
Do you think the Dems new word..."weird" is good strategy? I'm not so sure. Although I saw Kamala pivoted her message to trying to sound like she was tough on illegal immigrants, which is smart. Maybe they're giving up on "orange man bad" and going to talk policy? That would be refreshing.
The Dems accepted it so well in 2016... Burning cities and destroying business nationwide is so much more admirable than what right wing extremists did on Jan 6...
sorry, not much high ground to be had by either party there.
The video clips were cut very short to remove context, per usual. There's a very real reason MSNBC doesn't show trump live... He doesn't sound dangerous if you hear all of what he says.
Do you think the Dems new word..."weird" is good strategy? I'm not so sure. Although I saw Kamala pivoted her message to trying to sound like she was tough on illegal immigrants, which is smart. Maybe they're giving up on "orange man bad" and going to talk policy? That would be refreshing.
Fair point. I sometimes fail to remember that leftists are incapable of understanding language, and everything must be stated literally. Sorry, please don't read my posts, I rarely speak in literal terms.Burning cities? LOL, just STFU. What a fantastic fairytale. Were there protests? Sure, but your description is humorous and hysterical. What a snowflake you are.
those protests "burned down cities" in the same way january 6 "burned down the US capitol"Fair point. I sometimes fail to remember that leftists are incapable of understanding language, and everything must be stated literally. Sorry, please don't read my posts, I rarely speak in literal terms.
While entire cities didn't burn. My point remains "mostly true."
While it’s disappointing to see vandalism associated with a protest and I’m against such actions, not a single fire is seen in that clip. Your exaggeration and embellishing of reality is noted.Really?!? Were you 10 years old then? Here's one link that literally took 10 seconds of googling to find, but you might want to educate yourself a bit.
Hillary called trump illegit for a long time, as did many leading Dems.
If you're under the age of 25, it's ok, it's not your fault. It was 8 years ago, and continued through...well...most of Trump's presidency.
UnrealLink to burning cities and business being destroyed in 2016.
Cities is plural, Portland is a city not cities. Which businesses were destroyed?Really?!? Were you 10 years old then? Here's one link that literally took 10 seconds of googling to find, but you might want to educate yourself a bit.
Hillary called trump illegit for a long time, as did many leading Dems.
If you're under the age of 25, it's ok, it's not your fault. It was 8 years ago, and continued through...well...most of Trump's presidency.
Fair point. I sometimes fail to remember that leftists are incapable of understanding language, and everything must be stated literally. Sorry, please don't read my posts, I rarely speak in literal terms.
While entire cities didn't burn. My point remains "mostly true."
The issue isn’t whether or not a final tally would have given Gore the win.
Final tally was made.The issue is that the final tally was not allowed to be made.
The denial that this is probable is disturbing.It's interesting that the idea of circumventing the traditional election process is being dismissed as absurd considering that is exactly what happened last time around.
What the hell are you talking about?The Dems accepted it so well in 2016... Burning cities and destroying business nationwide is so much more admirable than what right wing extremists did on Jan 6...
sorry, not much high ground to be had by either party there.
The video clips were cut very short to remove context, per usual. There's a very real reason MSNBC doesn't show trump live... He doesn't sound dangerous if you hear all of what he says.
Do you think the Dems new word..."weird" is good strategy? I'm not so sure. Although I saw Kamala pivoted her message to trying to sound like she was tough on illegal immigrants, which is smart. Maybe they're giving up on "orange man bad" and going to talk policy? That would be refreshing.
So, 10 times what eloon donates to trump.For a while I've worried that SCOTUS will buy whatever flimsy argument Trump gives them to hand him the election. This clip doesn't make me feel much better about my paranoia.
That said, Dems are raising record amounts of cash. July alone should top $450 million. I hope that they are using a good portion of that to safeguard against the guaranteed rigging the Rs have in store for us.
Every one will help raise the average IQ of America.There's gonna be a lot more Ashley Babbitts next January.
I thought we cared about democracy.
The NYT and others followed up, reviewed all the ballots, and concluded Bush won the election.
Are you an election denier too?
Final tally was made.
The Democrats tried to apply different recount standards to Democratic leaning counties and the Supreme Court said that violates equal protection.
Regardless, the votes were counted, and the NYT and other news organizations observed that Bush won the election in Florida.
So I want to know why @What Would Jesus Do? is denying the results of the 2000 election.
Gotta be a Russian stooge fomenting public distrust with these evidence free allegations!
The denial that this is probable is disturbing.
BUT if that is all you have rattling around in your head and you choose to fill it up with Rachel Maddow and similar ilk you may not have the ability to recognize how taxing it is.The fear tactic is starting to get taxing, isn't it?
Interesting. Not 100% accurate, but interesting.I know you are deliberately pretending to not understand, and so it is pointless to go on, but I can't help myself.
There was plenty of time to recount all of the votes in Florida, but because Bush was ahead he sued to stop the recount and thus was awarded Florida's electoral votes prematurely. I, for one, was relieved to see the newspaper post-facto counts that confirmed Bush's win. Although prior to that I already felt the total was closer than the margin of error, and so it was almost irrelevant. The issue was the Supreme Court ruling (and, btw, at that time I was fascinated by what was happening and read every court ruling from top to bottom throughout those weeks) was a Catch-22 that was easy to foresee.
Florida law said that during recounts you should look for the clear intention of the voter. The Florida Supreme Court had two choices. They could leave it exactly as their law stipulated, which we all knew SCOTUS would claim was an equal rights violation and thus reject. Or they could have created a standard for all counties to follow, which we all knew SCOTUS would claim was "creating a new law" and thus reject. They said each county should follow the law, and of course their ruling was overturned.
Among those sober-minded people following things closely, the main issue was the predictability that SCOTUS was going to overturn the ruling no matter what, meaning the Electoral Votes were going to be awarded without a recount.
Of course, given everything that has transpired in the last four years, the issues with 2000 now seem quaint.
Good to see people calling you out for being full of crap with this take.The Dems accepted it so well in 2016... Burning cities and destroying business nationwide is so much more admirable than what right wing extremists did on Jan 6...
sorry, not much high ground to be had by either party there.
The video clips were cut very short to remove context, per usual. There's a very real reason MSNBC doesn't show trump live... He doesn't sound dangerous if you hear all of what he says.
Do you think the Dems new word..."weird" is good strategy? I'm not so sure. Although I saw Kamala pivoted her message to trying to sound like she was tough on illegal immigrants, which is smart. Maybe they're giving up on "orange man bad" and going to talk policy? That would be refreshing.