Robert E. Lee Day
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It's starting to trend that way.
What books do you recommend that would validate your position?
What do you in mean before slavery became an issue? Slavery was an issue at the founding of the nation. The time before slavery was an issue doesn't exist in American history.
Probably A Memoir of the Last Year of the War for Independence, in the Confederate States of America by Jubal Early.
I thought it was called the Confederate States of America. Is this not true?
Do you have some recommendations? I'm guessing Red Fish Blue Fish, Hop On Pop, or Goodnight Moon.
Lived in VA for a number of years and they celebrated MLK with REL/Jefferson Davis day. Thought that was an absolute embarrassment of epic proportions.
Also, the statue of REL on Monument Ave in Richmond used to point north before it was removed, rightfully so (removal, not pointing north but the southerners took his signing the papers of surrender at Appomattox Courthouse as the reason his horse and statue pointed north).
Also, the statue of REL on Monument Ave in Richmond used to point north before it was removed, rightfully so (removal, not pointing north but the southerners took his signing the papers of surrender at Appomattox Courthouse as the reason his horse and statue pointed north).
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There was nothing united about the States back then due in large part to scum like Robert E Lee and the rest of the southern traitors. You seem to have adapted well to to being one of the modern confederates down there in the redneck riviera but Lee should have been hung and put on display like the rest of those treasonous pieces of shit for all the real Americans they murdered in order to preserve slavery
What's truly sad and scary is how much things are similar all these years later in those same shithole states
The same guy who wants to give public dollars to private schools considers a failed traitor an American leader? Color me shocked. What a douche.
Why don't you save me time and quote the part that says he was a United States of America leader?
Hooker had 130k troops and Lee 60k at Chancellorsville. Lee’s army was numerically inferior in pretty much every major engagement of the war…
Agree Gettysburg was his worst battle…
Considering the numerical and material disparities Lee confronted it’s pretty amazing the Army of Northern Virginia lasted as long as it did…
Lee ignored Longstreet, who had a plan to win the war that was 50 years ahead of its time.
Lee was a loser.
Lee attacked the North and engaged them on open battlefields. Longstreet wanted to force the North to attack the South and he wanted to use trench warfare to control the battlefield.
It probably would have worked.
A full year after JEB Stuart pulled the same shit multiple times and should have been relieved of command.
Why are the traitors to a nation regarded as heroes of the right?
Pretty interesting
Have any articles or books on the subject you’d like to recommend?
The major hole in that philosophy as I see it….the north would always have the numbers to outflank any defensive line. Not all union commanders were like Burnside at Fredericksburg. And the confederates didn’t have the numbers to man 1500 miles or so of fortifications….there was always going to be maneuver in the civil war. Too vast and sparsely populated compared to the WW1 western front
Anyway, interesting subject.
I will say Lee should have taken Longstreets advice at Gettysburg. Pick better ground to fight on and make Meade attack them...on ground of their choosing. Meade had to...he had to kick them out of Pennsylvania....
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It's a great scene about leadership. The handling of discipline, firmly making your point clear, not accepting excuses, letting them down softly and building them back up. And just as important, once done...moving on.
You can certainly take snippets from anyone’s out leadership. Sorry if I took your post for something it wasn’t.
Lee was a distinguished officer in the United States Army before switching his allegiance to the confederacy.
But let’s be honest here, Alabama and Mississippi aren’t honoring him because of his exploits in the Mexican-American War.
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No worries. I can see why you thought that given the trajectory of the thread.
Mexican–American War
Robert E. Lee around age 43, when he was a brevet lieutenant-colonel of engineers, c. 1850
Lee distinguished himself in the Mexican–American War (1846–1848). He was one of Winfield Scott's chief aides in the march from Veracruz to Mexico City.[37] He was instrumental in several American victories through his personal reconnaissance as a staff officer; he found routes of attack that the Mexicans had not defended because they thought the terrain was impassable.
He was promoted to brevet major after the Battle of Cerro Gordo on April 18, 1847.[38] He also fought at Contreras, Churubusco, and Chapultepec and was wounded at the last. By the end of the war, he had received additional brevet promotions to lieutenant colonel and colonel, but his permanent rank was still captain of engineers, and he would remain a captain until his transfer to the cavalry in 1855.
For the first time, Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant met and worked with each other during the Mexican–American War. Close observations of their commanders constituted a learning process for both Lee and Grant.[39] The Mexican–American War concluded on February 2, 1848.
There you go you ****ing idiot.
My very uneducated view of Lee is that I sure as hell would not have wanted to be him. State loyalty meant something different then than it does now.
I suspect that there was a large part of Lee that did not want the south to be successful with session. . Any existing descendents of Lee are also descendents of Martha Washington.
His first son was named George Washington Curis Lee..
Anything I know about Lee tells me he was stuck in a southern system he did not morally agree with, but was not willing to go to kill his neighbors to break from it. It was an era of state before country.
Lee, obviously, does not help his case by being a slave holder.
Weirdly, Oliver Howard graduated West Point under Lee. He was present as one of the commanding officers when Sherman accepted the final surrender and then went on to found Howard University. No question that Lee knew who Howard was, as Howard and Lee's oldest son did not get along. George Washington Curtis Lee finished first in their class while Howard finished fourth.
I suspect that there was a large part of Lee that did not want the south to be successful with session. . Any existing descendents of Lee are also descendents of Martha Washington.
His first son was named George Washington Curis Lee..
Anything I know about Lee tells me he was stuck in a southern system he did not morally agree with, but was not willing to go to kill his neighbors to break from it. It was an era of state before country.
Lee, obviously, does not help his case by being a slave holder.
Weirdly, Oliver Howard graduated West Point under Lee. He was present as one of the commanding officers when Sherman accepted the final surrender and then went on to found Howard University. No question that Lee knew who Howard was, as Howard and Lee's oldest son did not get along. George Washington Curtis Lee finished first in their class while Howard finished fourth.
Anything I know about Lee tells me he was stuck in a southern system he did not morally agree with, but was not willing to go to kill his neighbors to break from it. It was an era of state before country.
The man ordered his plantation overseer to salt the wounds of slaves after they were lashed. He was also the only slave owner in his area to break up families.
The man ordered his plantation overseer to salt the wounds of slaves after they were lashed. He was also the only slave owner in his area to break up families.
I refer you to post #112.Mexican–American War
Robert E. Lee around age 43, when he was a brevet lieutenant-colonel of engineers, c. 1850
Lee distinguished himself in the Mexican–American War (1846–1848). He was one of Winfield Scott's chief aides in the march from Veracruz to Mexico City.[37] He was instrumental in several American victories through his personal reconnaissance as a staff officer; he found routes of attack that the Mexicans had not defended because they thought the terrain was impassable.
He was promoted to brevet major after the Battle of Cerro Gordo on April 18, 1847.[38] He also fought at Contreras, Churubusco, and Chapultepec and was wounded at the last. By the end of the war, he had received additional brevet promotions to lieutenant colonel and colonel, but his permanent rank was still captain of engineers, and he would remain a captain until his transfer to the cavalry in 1855.
For the first time, Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant met and worked with each other during the Mexican–American War. Close observations of their commanders constituted a learning process for both Lee and Grant.[39] The Mexican–American War concluded on February 2, 1848.
There you go you ****ing idiot.
Not disagreeing with that at all. Just saying he was at one time a leader the US army As the other poster is clearly a dolt.
