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Russian Invasion YESTERDAY! - How Did It Go?

Point remains... Putin has a headwind with the current leadership of the West.
Scholz has refused to publicly affirm Biden's declaration regarding Nord Stream 2.
When given the chance.

At the White House and in an interview on CNN's "The Lead with Jake Tapper," German Chancellor Olaf Scholz revealed a distinct gap between himself and his American counterpart on the massive pipeline. During a news conference after an Oval Office meeting, Biden was explicit the project wouldn't go forward if Russia invades Ukraine. It's the stance he and US officials have taken for weeks, and has been a key point of discussion with the new Scholz government, according to senior administration officials.
But Scholz himself refused to even name the project during the news conference, and declined to commit to ending the pipeline if an invasion moves ahead -- a stance causing problems for his foreign minister during a visit to Ukraine.



Germany also opposes shipping weapons to Ukraine.

So setting aside Merkel's retirement, your point about NATO 'unity' is undercut by the fact that differences in approach remain.

The US and UK are beating war drums that other NATO members are not.
Neither leader in those countries is popular.
I'm sure it's utterly coincidental.

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This is why Europe wants a Greater Eurasia. It will also give them access to Africa which is increasingly being dominated by Beijing-Moscow. China alone will give them a market of 1.4B to sell autos.

Once comparable in principle with the American one, the European economy is falling back. From rough parity in 2008, the U.S.’s economy is now one-third bigger than the EU and the UK combined.

In 2008 the EU’s economy slightly exceeded America’s: $16.2 trillion against $14.7 trillion. By 2020, the U.S. economy had grown to $20.9 trillion, whereas the EU’s had fallen to $15.7 trillion. The former major general in the People’s Liberation Army Air Force Qiao Liang’s studies brilliantly pointed out that Washington is ruling through a weaponised dollar. The world’s primary reserve currency accounts for about 60% of official foreign exchange reserves, while the euro for only 21%. Sadly smiling, one could remember the 2000’s Saddam’s switch from the dollar to the euro for oil trading. It was an attempt to rebuke Washington’s hard-line on sanctions and encourage Europeans to challenge it. We know how it ended.

 
Those alleged French White Flag factories have moved to Germany!

(Got to keep that power supply flowing no matter what.)
 
This is why Europe wants a Greater Eurasia. It will also give them access to Africa which is increasingly being dominated by Beijing-Moscow. China alone will give them a market of 1.4B to sell autos.

Once comparable in principle with the American one, the European economy is falling back. From rough parity in 2008, the U.S.’s economy is now one-third bigger than the EU and the UK combined.

In 2008 the EU’s economy slightly exceeded America’s: $16.2 trillion against $14.7 trillion. By 2020, the U.S. economy had grown to $20.9 trillion, whereas the EU’s had fallen to $15.7 trillion. The former major general in the People’s Liberation Army Air Force Qiao Liang’s studies brilliantly pointed out that Washington is ruling through a weaponised dollar. The world’s primary reserve currency accounts for about 60% of official foreign exchange reserves, while the euro for only 21%. Sadly smiling, one could remember the 2000’s Saddam’s switch from the dollar to the euro for oil trading. It was an attempt to rebuke Washington’s hard-line on sanctions and encourage Europeans to challenge it. We know how it ended.

Nut grain is back! What up comradeski? Those rust bucket T-55's I see on tv looking good!
 
Russia is hardly a "friendly neighbor".

People don't enjoy fascism like you do.
They were friendly until Obama overthrew them.

The fascism comment is just hilarious. Coming from a guy who pimps the MIC, Big Pharma, works for Bayer who banked IG Farben, maker of Zyklon B and the neo-Nazis who now run things in Kiev. But, u go boyyyyyy!
 
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Once comparable in principle with the American one, the European economy is falling back. From rough parity in 2008, the U.S.’s economy is now one-third bigger than the EU and the UK combined.
Was it P.J. O'Rourke who said the French send the socialists to Paris, but their money to New York?
 
Scholz has refused to publicly affirm Biden's declaration regarding Nord Stream 2.
When given the chance.

At the White House and in an interview on CNN's "The Lead with Jake Tapper," German Chancellor Olaf Scholz revealed a distinct gap between himself and his American counterpart on the massive pipeline. During a news conference after an Oval Office meeting, Biden was explicit the project wouldn't go forward if Russia invades Ukraine. It's the stance he and US officials have taken for weeks, and has been a key point of discussion with the new Scholz government, according to senior administration officials.
But Scholz himself refused to even name the project during the news conference, and declined to commit to ending the pipeline if an invasion moves ahead -- a stance causing problems for his foreign minister during a visit to Ukraine.



Germany also opposes shipping weapons to Ukraine.

So setting aside Merkel's retirement, your point about NATO 'unity' is undercut by the fact that differences in approach remain.

The US and UK are beating war drums that other NATO members are not.
Neither leader in those countries is popular.
I'm sure it's utterly coincidental.

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What you also need to understand with Western European countries is the delicate balancing act they must do strictly from a geographical POV.

They can't take the same hardline stance that Biden can take.
 
What you also need to understand with Western European countries is the delicate balancing act they must do strictly from a geographical POV.

They can't take the same hardline stance that Biden can take.

"NATO is united and the reason is Biden and Merkel."

But Merkel is retired and you acknowledge that nations in NATO 'can't take the same hardline stance' as Biden.

What you need to understand is those facts undercut your thesis.

Pay more attention to Macron, than Merkel. Macron wants the EU, not NATO (read: U.S.), in the driver's seat of European foreign policy.

The sanctions the White House wants will hurt Europe way more than the U.S., hence their reticence.
 
"NATO is united and the reason is Biden and Merkel."

But Merkel is retired and you acknowledge that nations in NATO 'can't take the same hardline stance' as Biden.

What you need to understand is those facts undercut your thesis.

Pay more attention to Macron, than Merkel. Macron wants the EU, not NATO (read: U.S.), in the driver's seat of European foreign policy.

The sanctions the White House wants will hurt Europe way more than the U.S., hence their reticence.
You may very well be correct.

And this isn't an excuse, but Biden is still trying to repair the NATO alliance after the division created from 2017-2021.
 
Only way for fascists and oligarchs to retain power. Control the people with jingoism and false propaganda. Steal their livelihoods from them and consolidate the money into the pockets of the few.
Wait. That sounds like the GOP plan for America.

I thought we were talking about Russia.

[And, of course, our wingnuts will say it's the Dem plan for America.]
 
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NTELLIGENCE UPDATE: Russia retains a significant military presence that can conduct an invasion without further warning. Below demonstrates President Putin's possible axis of invasion. He still can choose to prevent conflict and preserve peace.
 
You may very well be correct.

And this isn't an excuse, but Biden is still trying to repair the NATO alliance after the division created from 2017-2021.
Afghanistan debacle didn't help matters. Australian sub deal didn't either...


 
Russia can just wait until June when NS2 gets certified to operate. In the meantime, they can get rich with the high gas prices. Also, the EU has f'ed themselves. Russia got tired of dealing with them and signed a deal with China to start construction on the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline that will transport 50bcm of blue fuel through Mongolia. The source for this pipe is Yamal, the same region that supplies the NS2. OTOH, Washington has been trying desperately to derail this pipe since its inception.
Big Oil everywhere is laughing all the way to the bank. No actual war, yet oil is over $90/bbl.
 
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"This crisis directly affects every member of this council and every country in the world, because the basic principles that sustain peace and security, principles that were enshrined in the wake of two world wars and the Cold War, are under threat — the principle that one country cannot change the borders of another by force," Blinken said.


Does this mean NATO will stop partitioning Serbia?
 
"This crisis directly affects every member of this council and every country in the world, because the basic principles that sustain peace and security, principles that were enshrined in the wake of two world wars and the Cold War, are under threat — the principle that one country cannot change the borders of another by force," Blinken said.


Does this mean NATO will stop partitioning Serbia?

Yeah, Blinken is going to regret that comment....
 
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Soros?

What was his role?


In addition to his admitted role here, he also, in partnership with the Dutch embassy, owned Hromadske TV. After the 11/21/13 EU Association meeting in Vilnius (the precursor to joining NATO) where Yanukovych gave his decision to NOT ally with the West, his foot soldiers were activated by his network to violently take it to the streets. Snipers were in position in Maidan. Rest is history.
 
Read what?

Europe DOES NOT GO THRU ASIA TO TRADE WITH AFRICA

#Seaports
Umm...the link provided.

This is why Europe wants a Greater Eurasia. It will also give them access to Africa which is increasingly being dominated by Beijing-Moscow.
If you quote the whole sentence and not half of it, like you did, it takes on a whole different meaning. The continent of Africa is coming under Russia-China dominance...Iran to a lesser extent. They (Europeans) will likely have to get their blessing to deal with African leaders. So, you see SPUD...it sounds much different. I wasn't even thinking trade routes.

I posted you the link for a Halford Mackinder-garten lesson. Reading it will help you understand geopolitics. When looking at a globe, Europe-Asia-Africa actually looks like 1 world island and not 3 separate continents. That's what the Belt and Road Initiative is....connecting the 3 totaling 6.5B of the world's 8B people.
 
"This crisis directly affects every member of this council and every country in the world, because the basic principles that sustain peace and security, principles that were enshrined in the wake of two world wars and the Cold War, are under threat — the principle that one country cannot change the borders of another by force," Blinken said.


Does this mean NATO will stop partitioning Serbia?
I wonder if he ever heard of Kosovo. Was he consulting for the weapons manufacturers then? Someone should also bring him up to speed with Occupied Palestine, Golan Heights, Gaza, and West Bank.
 
I wonder if he ever heard of Kosovo. Was he consulting for the weapons manufacturers then? Someone should also bring him up to speed with Occupied Palestine, Golan Heights, Gaza, and West Bank.
Nut Grain nut grain, it's all nutty and grainy. Nut grain.
 
Umm...the link provided.


If you quote the whole sentence and not half of it, like you did, it takes on a whole different meaning. The continent of Africa is coming under Russia-China dominance.

Then rather than condoning Putin's attempts to take over more countries, you should be very very concerned by it.

Because that's precisely what putting more oligarchs in power will do.
 
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Any geo political incident pushes oil up.

Been that way for decades.
Sure. But cui bono?

Looks like it could work really well for Russia AND for US and multinational fossil energy corporations.

Not incidentally, this could also benefit nations like Iran and Venezuela.

Now ask yourself who it hurts. Average consumers. Biden and the Dems (since things are tanking on their watch, so FOX, et al, are happy to pile on).

And let's not fail to identify the MISC as beneficiaries, too. [That's the military/industrial/security complex, if that isn't obvious.]

Next let's ask ourselves where the money is coming from. Not the rich, that's for sure. Not from corporations. No, it's either adding to the growing national debt or being siphoned away from other crucial programs, like fighting climate change. So ask yourself who doesn't want to fight climate change. And we're right back to Big Oil.
 
Or same old, same old?


Feb 17 (Reuters) - Russian-backed rebels and Ukrainian forces traded accusations on Thursday that each had fired across the ceasefire line in eastern Ukraine, raising alarm at a time when Western countries have warned of the possibility of a Russian invasion any day.

The details of the incidents could not be independently confirmed, and the initial reports suggested they were on a similar scale to ceasefire violations that have been common throughout the eight year conflict.

A diplomatic source said a longstanding monitoring mission from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe had recorded multiple shelling incidents along the line of contact in the early hours of Thursday.
Since a 2015 ceasefire brought an end to major combat in the separatist conflict, the OSCE has typically reported dozens of ceasefire violations each day, with significant shelling or clashes leading to injuries or death several times a month.
The self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, one of two rebel regions, said Ukrainian forces had used mortars, grenade launchers and a machine gun in four separate incidents on Thursday.
"Armed forces of Ukraine have crudely violated the ceasefire regime, using heavy weapons, which, according to the Minsk agreements, should be withdrawn," the separatists said in a statement.
Referring to the rebels, Ukraine's military said: "With particular cynicism, the Russian occupation troops shelled the village of Stanytsa Lugansk in the Luhansk region. As a result of the use of heavy artillery weapons by terrorists, shells hit the kindergarten building. According to preliminary data, two civilians received shell shock."
 
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