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Your quoted post was from an individual fan, not a fan base. Lmk if you need help understanding the difference
Rutgers fan here. Rutgers likes to run and thrives in transition. Our half court O is mediocre. And RU is much deeper than most teams. We substitute lines of players like hockey. IMO the keys to victory for Iowa are to have a couple of hot shooters from outside so we can't key on one guy, have the refs call a lot of fouls generally, or get Myles Johnson in early foul trouble.
On the other side, if Rutgers dominates the paint and gets a lot of second chance points. if Myles Johnson has a strong game and is on the floor 25 minutes or more, and if the refs let them play, those are good signs for RU.
I believe they started to cheer just before Weezy let it go, thinking it would be a miss.
After it was made a deafening silence came over the crowd.
Looks like a bunker.
Do the fans get to leave after the game?I was there... as soon as we saw the RU player tip it toward the Iowa guy set up for 3, we panicked.I believe they started to cheer just before Weezy let it go, thinking it would be a miss.
On a different note, I saw Baker with the cast/splint on his thumb during the Minny game. He must be a tough kid to play with that. Hurts to look at it.
On the other hand, we have Garza who has been through the wars. I can see a game late in the season where we're in a tie game with 5 seconds to go. After a timeout, Garza comes in with his leg in a splint, on crutches, both nostrils stuffed with cotton, and two stitched lips. All the while this is going on, his dad Frank is screaming, "Let the peacock fly!!!!!"
Still the best shot EVER in a basketball game. Gotta tip your hat to a play like that!I believe they started to cheer just before Weezy let it go, thinking it would be a miss.
Looking forward to the game! We won’t have the revenge factor like last year, though.
Strength on Strength and though defense does travel, there isn’t much of an answer to Garza. Lottery pick! Our best chance is to keep throwing fresh bodies at him and wearing him down, if possible.
We play a nine man rotation so hopefully that’s more than y’all?
Indeed looking forward to it. We only play once this season notwithstanding a possible matchup in the BTT, so this is huge. Enjoy!
This is Rutgers best team in a long time. They are going to be a handful.
Looks like a bunker.
The Rutgers fans get to leave. Opposing fans are magically never heard from again
As for Geo's thumb, if you looked close at the end of the Minny game, he was such a badass that he took the cast off of his thumb and played bare handed.
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I understand the caveats. The reason for my comment is the only team that has won by the numbers you are talking about in the last 2 years is Rutgers. Based in recent history it seems far likelier that Rutgers will dictate the style than Iowa.
I understand the caveats. Most understand the likelihood of them coming true is very very small.
I guess I am not sure where you are getting this info? KenPom has Iowas SOS at 8, Rutgers at 50. Non Conference KenPom has Iowa at 63 and Rutgers at 282.
I am hoping the RU players aren’t thinking that. Their youth concerns me a bit for this one.
I think hes looking at the NET Team Sheets the committee will use for seeding. They have:
Iowa Overall SOS: 100
OOC SOS: 164
Rutgers Overall SOS:16
OOC SOS: 29
I don't know why there is such a discrepancy with kenpom and other metrics but these are the numbers the committee will see
Our youth concerns us, too, except, oddly enough, this crew doesn't let the environment rattle them. It's almost unnerving that four sophs and a Freshman don't seem phased by much...yet.
Anyway, if you ask me, patterning our programs after Iowa's in most sports (only because I know nothing of your sports outside Football, Hoops, and of course, Wrestling) isn't a bad thing.
Plus, I'm still digging the props y'all provided our Punter for his performance against you this past fall!
(Just realized you might be from RU
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Yeah, it’s pretty hideous. But it’s ours, and even better, it is loud.Looks like a bunker.
Our youth concerns us, too, except, oddly enough, this crew doesn't let the environment rattle them. It's almost unnerving that four sophs and a Freshman don't seem phased by much...yet.
Anyway, if you ask me, patterning our programs after Iowa's in most sports (only because I know nothing of your sports outside Football, Hoops, and of course, Wrestling) isn't a bad thing.
Plus, I'm still digging the props y'all provided our Punter for his performance against you this past fall!
(Just realized you might be from RU
I thought it would be more obvious than it was.
“Everything sucks!
Bon Jovi forever!
Schiano deserves a shrine!”
There.
Interestingly, Rutgers has done a superb job against zone of getting shots in the paint. A 2-3 zone makes it pretty easy to get the ball into the high post around the foul line, and we've been using 6-6 playmaker Paul Mulcahy in that spot, and he has such good vision and passing ability that he's able to find guys for shots from that perch, or, if the bigs down low aren't open, he has a knack for driving down the lane to get his own shot.
Still, I find it curious that more teams haven't tried playing zone against us, as we're only shooting around 29-30% from deep, whereas our 2-pt FG percentage is over 50% (one of the best in the conference).
With your injury issues and 8-man rotation, I suspect Fran will try some zone, and we'll see whether that high-post game is working for us.
Thats all good, but if your boys can slow down Garzilla, you'll be the first ones this season. You don't average 28 points a game in conference by accident. Even then you'll have the bomb squad to deal with Wieskamp and Fredrick drop three bombs. Rutgers hasn't been as good on the road, just like most of the league, and we've beaten better teams at home and on the road, but we'll see on wednesday......
I'm sure you read bac2theRac response to your post on the Rutgers site? Below is his posted after your first response.
yet the NET is what the committee is using for selection process. I do think that KenPom overall number is on there at the top. Here is the official team sheet they use as an example. I know people personally love KenPom, I do bracket projections here and for that purpose I find it generally worthless. I use the methodology that the NCAA has explained
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/mens-basketball-selections-101-selections
The committee often refers to "team sheets" when comparing team performance. The team sheets contain in-depth team information about strength of schedule, performance against teams sorted by quadrants and results.
Starting with the 2017-18 season, the team sheets took on a new look. They now not only include each team’s NET, but also include a team’s ranking in five other metrics: the ESPN strength of record and BPI rankings, as well as the KPI, KenPom and Sagarin rankings
here is an example of a team sheet
Our grounds crew actually rubs dirt on the exterior of the RAC to make it look ugly and like you're about to enter a house of horrors. Seems to be working as no one has gotten out alive.Looks like a bunker.
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This made me chuckle.
Playmaker Paul is averaging 19 MPG, 3.8 PPG and 2.5 APG this season.
Thanks for posting this... All I can say is
'WTF NCAA? What type of ass backwards mathematics did you use to calculate SOS? Rutgers is 5-3 in Quad 1 and 2 games; Iowa is 8-4. Do the sub 300 teams really hurt IA's SOS that much?
Mulcahy is a reserve, but he will almost certainly see heavier minutes if we see a 2-3 zone. The few times teams threw that defense out there, we carved it up for a few plays with Mulcahy at the foul line and they've bailed out of it quickly.
Adjusted per 40 min, Baker has 5.3 assists to 2.5 tov, while Mulcahy has 5.2 assists to 2.0 tov. But while he's an efficient scorer (.635 eFG%), he generally doesn't look for his shot (just 5.6 FGA per 40 min).
I mean, if you haven't watched any of our games, I'm not really sure how you can comment (or chuckle for that matter). Teams haven't played a lot of zone against us, but when they do, I'm telling you exactly what we've done. Not understanding the snark here.
That aside, how many other players in the conference average 2.5 assists in just 19 minutes per game off the bench? (as a true freshman)? I'd venture a guess, not many (if any). The kid AVERAGED a triple-double as a high school senior last year, the first player to do that in NJ in something like 20 years.
Which schedule do you think is better? I didn't include road/home/neutral locations or scores. But we are all smart here. Look it up.
Rutgers-
Bryant W
Niagra W
Drexel W
St Bonaventure L
S.F. Austin W
NJIT W
Umass W
Pitt L
Seton Hall W
Lafayette W
Cadwell W
Iowa-
SIU Edwardsville W
DePaul L
Oral Roberts W
North Florida W
Cal Poly W
Texas Tech W
San Diego St L
Syracuse W
Iowa State W
Cincinnati W
Kennesaw State W
Largely because we have a lot of depth at guard, and he doesn't have to. If this were two years ago, he'd have been relied on much more heavily in the guard rotation, and thankfully we don't have to throw a true freshman to the wolves this year like we did with Baker. He thrives against a zone, though.
Right now, he's still working on his man defense, and while he is good at protecting the ball and finding open men, he doesn't look for his own shot that often.
Our guard depth right now only has Baker with more than 23 min:
Baker (6-4, Jr) - 29.3 min, 10.7 pts, 2.5 rb, 3.9 ast, 1.9 tov
McConnell (6-6, So) - 22.7 min, 7.4 pts, 4.5 rb, 1.9 ast, 1.6 tov
Mathis (6-4, So) - 22.3 min, 6.9 pts, 3.4 rb, 1.4 ast, 1.1 tov
Young (6-1, RS Jr) - 21.2 min, 8.9 pts, 2.8 rb, 2.0 ast, 2.3 tov
Mulcahy (6-6, Fr) - 19.2 min, 3.8 pts, 2.8 rb, 2.5 ast, 0.9 tov
I would make Rutgers beat me from 3 and pack in the paint. If we have a hot night so be it.
Agreed. Teams haven't played much zone which is odd since we aren't good from 3. We are very good at attacking the offensive glass and it's hard to defensive rebound out of a zone so that might have something to do with it.
Paul has done phenomenal against the 2-3 zone at the foul line. He finds the right pass. Takes it in occasionally. Looks to dump it down low. Iowa doesn't have great athletes he would struggle with so I expect a good game from him here.
No one on the team has amazing stats. It's spread around. He's also a true freshman off the bench. You clearly haven't seen him play. His court vision and passing are elite. This reminds me of the Minnesota board not thinking Young would be the quickest fastest player on the court and laughing at me for saying so. He clearly was. You'll see Paul's game. He is a true pass first play maker
I think NET is bringing your SOS down because of your three lowest games (312 Cal Poly, 343 SIUE, 349 Kennesaw St) vs. our three lowest (231 Bryant, 279 Niagara, and 301 NJIT). But, imo, all Q4 wins are pretty much created equal - who cares if it's a team ranked 280 or 350?
Looking only at the Q1-Q3 games on our schedules, I'd say you have had a bit of a tougher road so far.
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And Weiskamp banked it off the backboard at an angle that physicists have been unable to explain.
Quick- tell them about the Knight Rider light that sweeps across it!Our grounds crew actually rubs dirt on the exterior of the RAC to make it look ugly and like you're about to enter a house of horrors. Seems to be working as no one has gotten out alive.
