Session II Thread
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It's ok to get snarky right about now but he would have a legit shot at AA. Meyer really screwed the pooch for us today. I didn't expect Coop to get pinned but I also didn't think he'd get by Kent State either.
Tom had very good teams his first couple years but the past 5 yrs have not been pretty. Last years senior class was a top recruit class that regressed by the time they reached their senior season.
There has only been one match that surprised me today and it was Meyer. Other than that we are right where we realistically should be. Meyer needs to win some matches on the backside and our guys tomorrow need to show up and win. Simple as that. This ain't over.
Sadly, it's a lot more exciting hanging around for the wrestlebacks when we're actually wrestling for something. Still hoping for Cooper to work some magic...he finished the season strong and ran into a tough TD that led to him getting pinned.
Sadly the 2, 3 and 4 seeds at 174 also lost. Meyer is screwed...
Kilmara 2 & out is at least worth a bout of incontinence.
Nah, no reason to be snarky. I feel bad for Stoll, that dude has the attitude that many of us are craving. I believe he would have been AA this year, minimum. The Cooper pin surprised me. I think we expected too much from Meyer. I know the weight class emptied out after last year, but honestly why should we have expected Meyer to place highly? He has shown some flashes, but I think we are guilty of very wishful thinking.
Top Scorers...not the pattern we're looking for, and unfortunately it's become our norm these last few years... 
Alex Dieringer (Oklahoma State) 6
Jason Nolf (Penn State) 5.5
Kyle Snyder (Ohio State) 5.5
Zain Retherford (Penn State) 5.5
Adam Coon (Michigan) 5
Amarveer Dhesi (Oregon State) 5
Morgan McIntosh (Penn State) 5
Alex Dieringer (Oklahoma State) 6
Jason Nolf (Penn State) 5.5
Kyle Snyder (Ohio State) 5.5
Zain Retherford (Penn State) 5.5
Adam Coon (Michigan) 5
Amarveer Dhesi (Oregon State) 5
Morgan McIntosh (Penn State) 5
I agree about meyer, the hole at 41 didn't help. We essentially had 3 big holes counting Stoll, & I am not counting Meyer in that.
Wasn't too much to ask of Meyer...he could have got himself to the quarters. We always seem to have a guy like this that craps out in the first round in the past four or five years.
Top Scorers...not the pattern we're looking for, and unfortunately it's become our norm these last few years...
Alex Dieringer (Oklahoma State) 6
Jason Nolf (Penn State) 5.5
Kyle Snyder (Ohio State) 5.5
Zain Retherford (Penn State) 5.5
Adam Coon (Michigan) 5
Amarveer Dhesi (Oregon State) 5
Morgan McIntosh (Penn State) 5
It is shocking to me that Bo's not on that list.
Well, you'd better make the first one count
Sure, the development of last year's highly touted senior class was disappointing, but my point was that we didn't just recently start getting away from Iowa style, aggressive wrestling over the last few years -- which were all markedly better than what we had during Zalesky's last few years. PSU's emergence under Cael and tOSU's perfect storm last year have a lot to do with that perception, too.
Of course, every Iowa fan wants to see team titles every year. The last few haven't been what we wanted, but let's not get too carried away. Titles are always what we're after, but we've still been the most consistent program in the nation and have easily the longest team trophy streak, plus we won Big Tens and finished 2nd just last year.
We want more, but recruiting is picking up and we're far better off than a decade ago. Just trying to keep it real.
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Better of than a decade ago, but how about the past 5 years? And granted, we've had some injuries (and Nick Moore), but still, we've been pretty stagnant as far as progressing...
Excellent, they win the "Minkel Trophy" two years in a row.
You may be right, I am just saying that I didn't see the evidence that the guy was a top 8 kind of guy. Won't question the motor, just not sure of the rest. We need at least one more guy who just dominates. And maybe it's just me, but we look like robots now. Give me a little more Rico Chiaparelli. I like a little funk. I think we can be technically sound, but still be creative and fun to watch. I guess I just showed my age.
My buddies who wrestled at ISU always said Brands benefited from 2 recruiting classes when he started at Iowa (the Iowa recruits and the Va Tech recruits. Cael benefitted from this too. I unfortunately am beginning to believe my buddies are right.
Rico who? he didn't march by the beat of his own drum did he? Guess I'm right there with you Sidewinder.
Guess I'm right there with you Sidewinder.
Yeah but they're biased and will say anything to try and make an Iowa team look bad. Don't let your buddies get the best of you!
