Should the ACC Champion & Notre Dame be eligible for the CFP or just one of these teams?

[Franisdaman]

Notre Dame plays 5 ACC conference games yet maintains their independence.

Lets say Notre Dame wins out.

Should the ACC Champion & Notre Dame be eligible for the CFP or just one of these teams?

Notre Dame is an ACC team, imo, and I feel that just one team from each Power 5 conference should be eligible for the Final 4.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Nothing makes a team "eligible" for the CFP. The top 4 in the CFP rankings are in. Conference affiliation is meaningless.

This could very well become evident this season, as 2 SEC teams and 2 B1G teams have the inside track at this point.

 

[naturalmwa]

No conference should get more than one slot.

 

[Franisdaman]

check out this video, where Clemson and Notre Dame are projected as CFP participants.

What happens if there is a crazy good SEC championship game and 2 SEC teams get in as well?

Joey Galloway's Top 4:

ACC--Notre Dame
ACC--Clemson.
SEC--Alabama
SEC--Georgia


Left out:
PAC12 champ
Big 12 champ
B1G champ


Link to video: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21203541

 

[Clifford C. Clavin]

Since there is nothing against 2 ACC teams (or 2 teams from any conference) making it, I don't know how you can say only 1 ACC/Notre Dame is eligible.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

check out this video, where Clemson and Notre Dame are projected as CFP participants.

What happens if there is a crazy good SEC championship game and 2 SEC teams get in as well?

Joey Galloway's Top 4:

ACC--Notre Dame
ACC--Clemson.
SEC--Alabama
SEC--Georgia


Left out:
PAC12 champ
Big 12 champ
B1G champ


Link to video: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21203541

I don't have a problem with those rankings at this point, but there is no chance in bloody heck that Ohio St (or Wisconsin, for that matter) will be on the outside looking in if they win out.

 

[millah_22]

Any remaining undefeated
Then highest ranked conference champs

Notes Dame should only ever get in if they’re undefeated.

 

[WhoaNellieCy]

Ya, stating the obvious, but CFP needs to expand to 8. 5 P5 Conf Champs plus 3 wildcards.

Everyone loves the playoffs and found they can work within the bowl system; 8 team playoff is next step.

 

[Michael1969]

The initial rankings won't indicate it, but right now it's coming down to the following:

Alabama-Georgia winner
Ohio State-Wisconsin winner
Clemson-Miami FL winner
Notre Dame

Notre Dame's game against Stanford on Thanksgiving weekend & conference championship game weekend would essentially be quarterfinal games.

Of course, any of those 7 teams get tripped up in the next 4 weeks before conference championship weekend (which is likely to happen) will shake it up even further and open up the door for other teams (Iowa has a great opportunity to play a part in that shake up facing Ohio State and Wisconsin the next 2 weeks). But the Big 12 & Pac 12 need a lot of help at this point, precisely needing Notre Dame to lose somewhere along the way.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

No conference should get more than one slot.

THIS!!!!!

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

The initial rankings won't indicate it, but right now it's coming down to the following:

Alabama-Georgia winner
Ohio State-Wisconsin winner
Clemson-Miami FL winner
Notre Dame

Notre Dame's game against Stanford on Thanksgiving weekend & conference championship game weekend would essentially be quarterfinal games.

Of course, any of those 7 teams get tripped up in the next 4 weeks before conference championship weekend (which is likely to happen) will shake it up even further and open up the door for other teams (Iowa has a great opportunity to play a part in that shake up facing Ohio State and Wisconsin the next 2 weeks). But the Big 12 & Pac 12 need a lot of help at this point, precisely needing Notre Dame to lose somewhere along the way.

Pretty much agree with all of this. The only addendum I'd add is that you might not have seen that Miami and ND play each other in 2 weeks, with the loser likely out (ND) or having a hard time getting back in (MIA). Also, if 'Bama and Georgia win out through Thanksgiving weekend, the loser of the SEC Championship game is going to be in, like it or not.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

Ya, stating the obvious, but CFP needs to expand to 8. 5 P5 Conf Champs plus 3 wildcards.

Everyone loves the playoffs and found they can work within the bowl system; 8 team playoff is next step.

Yep. Pretty simple and will happen. Hopefully in a couple years. I think the 4 team playoff has been VERY popular and hasn't killed the bowl games like some feared. Also makes for more games and more money for the NCAA and everyone else that has their hands out. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.....MONEY!

 

[Big Hawk D-Port]

The point being that the last month of the cfb season will be awesome, and the committee likely will have a tough job and leave some deserving people out.

 

[Michael1969]

Pretty much agree with all of this. The only addendum I'd add is that you might not have seen that Miami and ND play each other in 2 weeks, with the loser likely out (ND) or having a hard time getting back in (MIA). Also, if 'Bama and Georgia win out through Thanksgiving weekend, the loser of the SEC Championship game is going to be in, like it or not.

I did miss that about Miami FL-Notre Dame. And I'd agree that the loser of that game could end up saving a team from another conference, like you said, the loser of the SEC title game.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

Make ND play Clemson in the ACC title game. Forget Miami.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

Where would a 2-loss B12 team place if ND losses again?

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Where would a 2-loss B12 team place if ND losses again?

Depends on how the rest of the season goes, but I would predict that even a 1-loss Big 12 Champ would end up right behind 1) 13-0 'Bama/Georgia; 2) 13-0 Wisconsin/12-1 Ohio St; 3) 13-0 Miami/12-1 Clemson; and 4) 12-1 'Bama/Georgia. Might even end up behind the Pac-12 champ and/or another B1G or ACC team.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Depends on how the rest of the season goes, but I would predict that even a 1-loss Big 12 Champ would end up right behind 1) 13-0 'Bama/Georgia; 2) 13-0 Wisconsin/12-1 Ohio St; 3) 13-0 Miami/12-1 Clemson; and 4) 12-1 'Bama/Georgia. Might even end up behind the Pac-12 champ and/or another B1G or ACC team.

There is ZERO reason to have georgia AND bama in the playoffs! They play their last game of the year vs each other in a neutral environment!
If they both make it then why do we even have conf championships?
Completely unfair to the team that wins that game, why should they have to beat the other team twice or why should they get punished for going 1-1 vs them?
If we're talking about a game like osu/psu, then I can see 2 teams getting in. A 1 point home win doesn't mean much to me. An end of season neutral win, by any amount, should be the deciding factor.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Where would a 2-loss B12 team place if ND losses again?

Unless OK wins out and ISU wins out and get stomped by OK in the championship game, I don't see b12 having any chance.
If ND loses again they should be done.
Both will need a lot of help to get in w/ 2 losses imo.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Eight teams. P5 Champs are in. Three at large.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

There is ZERO reason to have georgia AND bama in the playoffs! They play their last game of the year vs each other in a neutral environment!
If they both make it then why do we even have conf championships?
Completely unfair to the team that wins that game, why should they have to beat the other team twice or why should they get punished for going 1-1 vs them?
If we're talking about a game like osu/psu, then I can see 2 teams getting in. A 1 point home win doesn't mean much to me. An end of season neutral win, by any amount, should be the deciding factor.

Just wanted to point out that this was my prediction on how things would end up, not my opinion on how I think they should be.

 

[HawkNole09]

check out this video, where Clemson and Notre Dame are projected as CFP participants.

What happens if there is a crazy good SEC championship game and 2 SEC teams get in as well?

Joey Galloway's Top 4:

ACC--Notre Dame
ACC--Clemson.
SEC--Alabama
SEC--Georgia


Left out:
PAC12 champ
Big 12 champ
B1G champ


Link to video: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21203541

This would be the end of the CFP as we know it.

 

[Franisdaman]

Nothing makes a team "eligible" for the CFP. The top 4 in the CFP rankings are in. Conference affiliation is meaningless.

This could very well become evident this season, as 2 SEC teams and 2 B1G teams have the inside track at this point.

So if undefeated Georgia and undefeated Bama play an epic SEC title game, you would be ok with both of these SEC teams making the CFP? 50% of the CFP represented by one conference?

 

[Franisdaman]

I don't have a problem with those rankings at this point, but there is no chance in bloody heck that Ohio St (or Wisconsin, for that matter) will be on the outside looking in if they win out.

what about a one loss OSU vs a one loss Georgia (whose only loss is to Bama in a close game in the SEC title game)? in this scenario, i think Georgia
has the better resume and Georgia would be ranked higher than OSU and Georgia and Bama make the CFP leaving OSU on the outside looking in

 

[Franisdaman]

check out this video, where Clemson and Notre Dame are projected as CFP participants.

What happens if there is a crazy good SEC championship game and 2 SEC teams get in as well?

Joey Galloway's Top 4:

ACC--Notre Dame
ACC--Clemson.
SEC--Alabama
SEC--Georgia


Left out:
PAC12 champ
Big 12 champ
B1G champ


Link to video: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21203541

This would be the end of the CFP as we know it.

yeah, can you imagine a one loss, B1G champ OSU being passed up by:

* A one loss ND, which did not have to play in a conf title game
* A one loss Bama or Georgia, who did not win their conf title game

At least once it was stated by CFP selection committee members that winning a conf championship carries a lot of weight

 

[El Simbolo]

There is ZERO reason to have georgia AND bama in the playoffs! They play their last game of the year vs each other in a neutral environment!
If they both make it then why do we even have conf championships?
Completely unfair to the team that wins that game, why should they have to beat the other team twice or why should they get punished for going 1-1 vs them?
If we're talking about a game like osu/psu, then I can see 2 teams getting in. A 1 point home win doesn't mean much to me. An end of season neutral win, by any amount, should be the deciding factor.

If you allow two teams from one conference you may get an inbred champion, not a national champion. The cross conference games are necessary to verify the winner is th best in the country. This is the reasoning that led to Florida playing OSU 10 years ago. Though Florida proved people wrong, going into the bowls most people thought OSU and Mich were the best two teams. The logic made sense then and it makes sense now

 

[SoDakHawk]

I know there is a lot of Notre Dame hate but can some of you seriously believe that if they win out they should not be in? Who cares about no CCG, have you looked at their schedule? If they win out they've earned their way in.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

So if undefeated Georgia and undefeated Bama play an epic SEC title game, you would be ok with both of these SEC teams making the CFP? 50% of the CFP represented by one conference?

Not really, but it's not up to me.

what about a one loss OSU vs a one loss Georgia (whose only loss is to Bama in a close game in the SEC title game)? in this scenario, i think Georgia
has the better resume and Georgia would be ranked higher than OSU and Georgia and Bama make the CFP leaving OSU on the outside looking in

I supposed that's possible. As I said above, I think a 12-1 Georgia team is in. I just don't think it would be at the expense of 12-1 Ohio St or 13-0 Wisconsin; it would much more likely be at the expense of the Big 12 champ, the Pac-12 champ and N.D.

 

[83Hawk]

I don’t see the PAC-10 getting anyone in this year. Too weak.

 

[BioHawk]

Sure, why not. The first and second place teams in every other conference are eligible.

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

I know there is a lot of Notre Dame hate but can some of you seriously believe that if they win out they should not be in? Who cares about no CCG, have you looked at their schedule? If they win out they've earned their way in.

11-1 No, 12-0 Yes