Simone Biles
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The appropriate analogy would be coming into work sick, exposing everybody, and leaving saying maybe you should not have come in
This is what an acquaintance who was an elite gymnast said. Getting lost in rotation and missing an element is how people get paralyzed.
Very good thread explaining Simone's issues.
Actually, it's a perfect analogy. If your lawyer has screwed up multiple pretrial motions due to mental health issues and was certain that his or her continued involvement could significantly impact the case and their long term health...I'm sure you'd be telling your lawyer to "rub a little dirt on it" and continue with your case.
Would your reputation be ended were you struggling with pneumonia and had to miss the presentation? Maybe it's time we started regarding mental issues in the same light as physical ailments. Whatcha think?
I think this should be the focus . It was more her getting Chuck Knoblach syndrome more than anything.
She could even become an outspoken advocate for treating mental health issues as real and serious HEALTH issues.
She didn't have to do the commercials and the promos and wear the GOAT leotard. She participated in the hype and then she quit. I don't feel sorry for her. I don't think she should be praised for being "brave". She quit. She doesn't want the pressure. Everybody just leave her alone. Somebody else will take her place and will do her best to win a medal.
I'm fine with Biles decision as it's her life and her decision. But don't tell me she's brave or this should be celebrated.
She quit for her safety.
She walked away from it all, knowing morons like yourself would ridicule her for days/months/years.
She took care of herself.
That's being brave.
That should be celebrated.
Sure but should she be more celebrated than the three teammates who were put in a tough situation and performed under the immense pressure of losing your best athlete in the middle of the competition?
Just another thread which shows trumpbaggers to be the scum of the earth.
Again, moron.
YOU keep posting threads about Simone, but not one about her team mates.
Sure. I hope she does.
My post was more for her own peace of mind. A lot goes through your head when you lay down alone in your thoughts to go to sleep at night.
Some of this just doesn't sit right. I'm sorry.
Healthy poeple don't have mental breakdowns randomly (assuming she's healthy and not a mental patient as she has yet to remove herself from any other competition ever). I know you don't agree, but it just doesn't sit right to do it in the middle of the competition. This wasn't a problem that just sprung up overnight. It was building. But, instead she took someone else's spot and then, possibly, cost her team. Sorry it just doesn't sit right for me.
I mean the Nassar stuff jsut seems odd. Yes she was abused. But he was charged years ago, sentenced years ago. Now, the issues related to it just completetly overwhelm her in the middle of this olympics? Why not a previous one. Its not a new issue. If COVID was problem and making it worse, she still could compete in the all the qualifying and other events, but not this one. It was just too much?
I'm all for metnal health discussions, I'm all for protecting mental health. But, the ole just be done in the middle of a two week event that is held every four years when you've shown no past issues, I'm sorry just doesn't sit right with me.
Strug didn't "quit" and it ended her career at 18.
I was orginally very opposed to Biles quitting at the highest level and thought she displayed very poor mental toughness. But after seeing that vault I am glad she did. That vault was scary to watch. She was a danger to herself that night. And she absolutely made the right decision not just for her own safety but the medal chances of her teammates.
So now I applaud her quitting. It took more mental toughness to quit than to succumb to the pressure to perform that night.
Again you lie. In fact I haven’t criticized Simone once in any threads but you keep being you.
Did you see the follow up post I posted?
You said it doesn't sit right with you 3x, I get it. It doesn't have to sit right with any of us.
Her performances were significantly affected. If you watched that last fault, she could have injured herself. I suspect she sucked it up—as everyone wants her to now—through the trials. But it created at the Olympics.
I'm not ridiculing her. I said I don't care. It's her decision to pull out.
That said. We don't need to celebrate her either.
Yeah, i watched her last vault in slow motion last night. She looked panicked during her rotation and relieved that she actually landed it. It was scary. While I am still disappointed she has dropped out due to my own selfish reasons, I am coming around and get it.
I feel terrible for her. To work as hard as she has for most of her life only for it to end like this has to be brutal for her.
That she stayed on cheered? Great. Who cares? She did what any injured person should/would do.
As I said something doesn't pass the smell test here. I know you disagree and are just gonna rip people who think differently. That's fine. But, sorry I just don't buy everything was building and then magically all comes together on the biggest stage that happens every four years. There are few documented cases like that.
(and you say the same phrase 3x for emphasis. Called reptition for effect. A common literary device)
As I understand that may be the case, but it just seems odd. Like she was able to suck it all up for months and years and then Kablam-o in the middle of the olympics is like "nope." It just rubs me the wrong way, maybe its the tennis person and the fear that this will become more common the whole, I need a break cause its stressful thing.
No, the twitter thread that explained what was going on with her mentally, which was very dangerous.
FWIW the biggest criticizers of Biles that I have seen have come from my wife (no pic) and my friend's wife (no pic). Both were college athletes and were VERY critical of her and the timing of her decision. If anything, the guys I have talked to about it are less critical of Biles because she is a woman. csb.
My biggest question is how do you not have your head on right going into the Olympics? She's making a lot of money and this will likely cost her a lot of money. How do you not have a therapist and/or a sports psychologist on hand to make sure your head is on right prior to the biggest event in 5 years?
My biggest question is how do you not have your head on right going into the Olympics? She's making a lot of money and this will likely cost her a lot of money. How do you not have a therapist and/or a sports psychologist on hand to make sure your head is on right prior to the biggest event in 5 years?
I got no problem with her withdrawing. And it sounds like she did it for the right reasons.
I think doing so, however, takes her out of the GOAT conversation. GOATs might make mental mistakes, but they don't withdraw because their head isn't right. Not at the highest level of competition. Just my opinion.
I think doing so, however, takes her out of the GOAT conversation. GOATs might make mental mistakes, but they don't withdraw because their head isn't right. Not at the highest level of competition. Just my opinion.
She’s not physically injured. She essentially got Chuck Knoblach syndrome or Rick Ankiel syndrome in the middle of the competition.
It's odd solely for the reason that it is not a regular occurrence. I tend to avoid doing a deep dive into someone's mental focus or lack thereof. She was extremely successful before and this Olympics the pressure caused her to lose her focus and make some very bad mistakes in her routines. Maybe it's age--no she is more self-aware of the pressures (pressure to win, to earn money for her and her family) when, before, she was just a kid and was just happy to be there. Maybe add in the strangeness of Covid protocols, isolation, etc. It all just crested as she was trying to perform an extremely difficult sport and she decided to withdraw.
I wonder how much the Covid delay affected a number of sports. A lot of these people take significant time off and then start building on a schedule to peak at the right time. Pushing that back a whole year has to have some impact. Some of the winning swimming times are very mediocre.
I wonder how much Covid protocol is affecting the athletes. The Olympic village--for good and for bad--is a giant orgy/party to blow off steam, make friends, let your mind break from the extreme focus. It's my understanding that is not what is going on in Tokyo --
