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Snyder to the UFC

"I want to fight. Basically what that tweet means. I love wrestling, I really do. I would want to continue wrestling but I want to do both at the same time," Snyder revealed. "I want to pursue my wrestling career, wrestle in World Championships and the Olympic games, but if the scheduling could work out and I can become an elite fighter, then I want to fight in the UFC as well.

"They put on a great show, it's really exciting. I think it's something that I could excel in. I haven't done much boxing or jiu-jitsu or striking or stuff like that but I think that I could pick it up pretty quickly. The crowd and the way they made the whole thing a big show was just exciting for me. It's something that I want to do."

Be really tough to do...I would think college is out while training for freestyle and fighting.
 
"They put on a great show, it's really exciting. I think it's something that I could excel in. I haven't done much boxing or jiu-jitsu or striking or stuff like that but I think that I could pick it up pretty quickly. The crowd and the way they made the whole thing a big show was just exciting for me. It's something that I want to do."

Not to sh$t on the guys dreams here, but jiu-jitsu, striking and stuff like that is like two thirds of the sport! It takes a long time to learn jiu-jitsu and become an effective striker. Its gonna take a couple of years of full-time MMA training for him to reach the UFC level. Sure, he can fight is some Ham and Egger leagues, take dudes down and smash them, but the UFC is the pinnacle of the sport. It's gonna take a while bro.
 
He wants to learn and educate himself on the areas of his game that aren't up to par with his world class wrestling skills because when Snyder debuts, he wants to show the entire world what he's capable of doing.

"Hopefully, sometime soon — not soon as in like this year or something like that — but within the next couple of years when I get my grounds in this sport," Snyder said.
 
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Not to sh$t on the guys dreams here, but jiu-jitsu, striking and stuff like that is like two thirds of the sport! It takes a long time to learn jiu-jitsu and become an effective striker. Its gonna take a couple of years of full-time MMA training for him to reach the UFC level. Sure, he can fight is some Ham and Egger leagues, take dudes down and smash them, but the UFC is the pinnacle of the sport. It's gonna take a while bro.

But this is where wrestlers have the advantage over the rest. A guy like Kyle doesn't need to be taught how to train (cardio, weights, diet)...a lot of the fighters don't know ****all about preparation. If he could strike and had submission counter/avoidance, he could fight tomorrow. It won't take him long, especially the jiu jitsu.
 
"They put on a great show, it's really exciting. I think it's something that I could excel in. I haven't done much boxing or jiu-jitsu or striking or stuff like that but I think that I could pick it up pretty quickly. The crowd and the way they made the whole thing a big show was just exciting for me. It's something that I want to do."

Not to sh$t on the guys dreams here, but jiu-jitsu, striking and stuff like that is like two thirds of the sport! It takes a long time to learn jiu-jitsu and become an effective striker. Its gonna take a couple of years of full-time MMA training for him to reach the UFC level. Sure, he can fight is some Ham and Egger leagues, take dudes down and smash them, but the UFC is the pinnacle of the sport. It's gonna take a while bro.
He could walk in right now and be at the UFC level. Wrestling is much more than 1/3 of the sport. Give him a few months and he would likely handle himself well against a guy ranked just outside the top 10. If he dedicated himself he would likely be in the top 10 within the 2 years.
 
He could walk in right now and be at the UFC level. Wrestling is much more than 1/3 of the sport. Give him a few months and he would likely handle himself well against a guy ranked just outside the top 10. If he dedicated himself he would likely be in the top 10 within the 2 years.
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.

Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.

He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.
 
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.

Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.

He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.

Would he consider fighting 205? The elite wrestlers get away with a lot more inexperience. Mocco and Conrad don't have near the quickness of Snyder. He might never make the top of the rankings but he will be holding his own sooner than later. That is if he can take a punch.
 
Looks like click bait to me. Dana white likes to sign people that will make him money (which we just saw this weekend....) so that probably plays a part in why mocco and Conrad aren't there. Snyder however brings them a good storyline that people would like to follow so I'm sure he wouldn't have as tough a time getting in once he's got a few fights and training under his belt
 
Terrible news if you ask me, although I'm not sure how serious he is about it.

I'm not a huge fan of UFC but I do watch it from time to time as I find it entertaining. However, I don't have very much respect for the fighters. I view many of them as barbaric punks that like to fight.

It really bothers me when our wrestlers turn to UFC because there's little to no money in wrestling.
 
I saw his comment that he wanted to fight in the UFC on Twitter earlier today and thought it was a joke. Guess not.

Interesting -- I always figured he'd move on before finishing his college career at tOSU, but I didn't figure it would be for MMA. Then, again, he may very well finish out first and go MMA later. No time like the present, Kyle! Seize the day and go MMA full-time now!;)
 
We all know Ohio State is very shady with academics so they may let him train full time and keep passing him. Speaking of UFC, am I the only one that dislikes Henry Cejudo more every time he gets camera time? He has been terrible on this season of TUF.
 
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.

Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.

He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.


Cole Konrad retired several years ago. He was undefeated and the Bellator champion.
Mocco is 5-1 with 4 of those wins coming via TKO/submission.

If Konrad was still fighting he'd most certainly have had a shot with the UFC, especially with how decimated the HWT division has been.

Nor sure if Mocco is still fighting, he hasn't fought in almost a year and a half.
 
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.

Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.

He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.

Incorrect. Kevin Jackson won the UFC 14 tournament to become middleweight champion, submitting both of his opponents. It was a different time then, but I still consider UFC champions to be elite..
 
Incorrect. Kevin Jackson won the UFC 14 tournament to become middleweight champion, submitting both of his opponents. It was a different time then, but I still consider UFC champions to be elite..
Definitely a tougher time back then. There weren't many rules or much weight restrictions if any
 
Give me a break. There's no equivalency in the respective risks.
There's a wrestler right now at Hofstra wearing a specific head gear due to concussions, a certain amount and his career will be over. I also had a teammate in college with the same issue There's some equivalency
 
Does this mean it just isn't exciting for him (or anyone else for that matter) to wrestle in front of 4,387 fans on average at tOSU?
What it means is he has a good grasp of the kind of money some of those cats make. I think they're all nuts, but whatever floats their boat is fine by me.
 
There's a wrestler right now at Hofstra wearing a specific head gear due to concussions, a certain amount and his career will be over. I also had a teammate in college with the same issue There's some equivalency

What I am saying is I think concussions are much more frequent in mixed martial arts, not that they don't occur from time to time in collegiate wrestling.
 
What I am saying is I think concussions are much more frequent in mixed martial arts, not that they don't occur from time to time in collegiate wrestling.
And they also occur with people who don't have an athletic bone in their entire body. Or bike riders and Soccer players, hardly the warrior types.

Don't want to risk a concussion? Stay home and wrap yourself in bubble wrap and watch life pass you by as you brag about not being concussed and how brilliant you are because of it (not speaking to you specifically, a generalization).

You can then take your newfound mental health and become a College Professor and let us all know about the inherent dangers of "mean" looking mascots..........
 
And they also occur with people who don't have an athletic bone in their entire body. Or bike riders and Soccer players, hardly the warrior types.

Don't want to risk a concussion? Stay home and wrap yourself in bubble wrap and watch life pass you by as you brag about not being concussed and how brilliant you are because of it (not speaking to you specifically, a generalization).

You can then take your newfound mental health and become a College Professor and let us all know about the inherent dangers of "mean" looking mascots..........

According to this study, most concussions come from Ice Hockey, football (duh), girls soccer, wrestling, girls basketball. For boys only, highest concussion rate was football, hockey, and lacrosse. Interestingly enough, one of the highest injury rates was cheerleading, although it wasn't considered a sport until recently. So like Sloe said, stay home and play Xbox...but than you could end up with bad thumbs.

http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/40/4/747
 
Boom! I've been told off! Good points fellas.

Damn Gus, I wasn't trying. The only difference between MMA and boxing for example, is that boxers take a whole hell of lot more shots to the head. But the top boxers that are big draws make a heck of a lot more money.
 
A whole lot of stupid in this thread. Striking skills are a natural thing and can easily be improved. Jiu Jitsu is way easy to pick up, and at his weight it probably won't be an issue. Mocco is a fat turd and Brock is retarded...apples to oranges.

He should definitely quit college wrestling and go mma full time.
 
Boom! I've been told off! Good points fellas.
No offense intended, just really tired of all the "concussion" B.S. and the sniveling about how "dangerous" sports are, football specifically.

Contrary to some popular belief, the meek ain't inheriting the Earth anytime soon. Last I checked, talking someone to death takes a lot longer than other modern warfare "alternatives" and hasn't seemed to work out all that well in past conflicts ........
 
A whole lot of stupid in this thread. Striking skills are a natural thing and can easily be improved. Jiu Jitsu is way easy to pick up, and at his weight it probably won't be an issue. Mocco is a fat turd and Brock is retarded...apples to oranges.

He should definitely quit college wrestling and go mma full time.

I'm guessing all this knowledge comes from your 12 year old boys that have had black belts for 6 years. There is nothing "natural" about high level striking. And many months are typically spent with high level wrestlers just getting them comfortable working from guard where they've spent their entire career avoiding position. Colby Covington took several years to get to where he's at in the UFC. There will be no competitive fights against top 10 UFC guys at any weight for Snyder for a few years. But hey, your avoidance of reality coupled with your trolling skills are still spot on.
 
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I'm guessing all this knowledge comes from your 12 year old boys that have had black belts for 6 years. There is nothing "natural" about high level striking. And many months are typically spent with high level wrestlers just getting them comfortable working from guard where they've spent their entire career avoiding position. Colby Covington took several years to get to where he's at in the UFC. There will be no competitive fights against top 10 UFC guys at any weight for Snyder for a few years. But hey, your avoidance of reality coupled with your trolling skills are still spot on.


High level striking doesn't exist in mma.
 
High level striking doesn't exist in mma.
I'll agree that traditional boxing doesn't exist much, but by definition, high level striking does. People with high percentages in punches/kicks landed demonstrate that. Snyder has great work ethic. If he decides MMA is what he wants, and he can stay motivated with success at levels much lower than he's used to, he'll probably do very well. This notion that he can scrap world class wrestling career and just show up and have success in the UFC is non sense.
 
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95% of UFC fighting in the upper weights is striking. He will have to be a tremendous natural to even have a chance. I can't see him contending at heavyweight with his lack of height and weight. That leaves 205. Rashad Evans and Daniel Cormier have both been champions without even pretending to have a submission game. So he can learn that aspect within a year or two. I think Pico has a much better chance of UFC success.
 
Konrad was similar to Askren in that he was super effective but developed a "boring" rep. I think he hung it up right after Brock was shut down. I think he still works for Marty Morgan's real estate company (I am sure u loyalists can find a joke in there somewhere).

Mocco runs a wrestling academy out of American Top Team I think. I am sure the Flodoc on him will shed more light on him.
 
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