Not to sh$t on the guys dreams here, but jiu-jitsu, striking and stuff like that is like two thirds of the sport! It takes a long time to learn jiu-jitsu and become an effective striker. Its gonna take a couple of years of full-time MMA training for him to reach the UFC level. Sure, he can fight is some Ham and Egger leagues, take dudes down and smash them, but the UFC is the pinnacle of the sport. It's gonna take a while bro.
He could walk in right now and be at the UFC level. Wrestling is much more than 1/3 of the sport. Give him a few months and he would likely handle himself well against a guy ranked just outside the top 10. If he dedicated himself he would likely be in the top 10 within the 2 years."They put on a great show, it's really exciting. I think it's something that I could excel in. I haven't done much boxing or jiu-jitsu or striking or stuff like that but I think that I could pick it up pretty quickly. The crowd and the way they made the whole thing a big show was just exciting for me. It's something that I want to do."
Not to sh$t on the guys dreams here, but jiu-jitsu, striking and stuff like that is like two thirds of the sport! It takes a long time to learn jiu-jitsu and become an effective striker. Its gonna take a couple of years of full-time MMA training for him to reach the UFC level. Sure, he can fight is some Ham and Egger leagues, take dudes down and smash them, but the UFC is the pinnacle of the sport. It's gonna take a while bro.
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.He could walk in right now and be at the UFC level. Wrestling is much more than 1/3 of the sport. Give him a few months and he would likely handle himself well against a guy ranked just outside the top 10. If he dedicated himself he would likely be in the top 10 within the 2 years.
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.
Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.
He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.
Good way to get a concussion and long-term brain damage. Please, please think this one over.
News Flash: Wrestling is also a good way to get a concussion and long-term brain damage.
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.
Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.
He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.
I agree with your second part regarding the two year plan. The first part...not so much.
If Snyder stepped into the Octagon with a seasoned UFC heavy right now, he would lose badly. Without striking training, he's going to get punched in the face. When wrestlers get punched in the face that aren't used to getting punched in the face, they panic and take desperation shots. If he takes a bad shot, he's going to get choked by a seasoned fighter. It takes time.
Cole Konrad and Steve Mocco have been at it for four or five years each. Neither of them have sniffed the UFC. They are winning close bouts in Indian Casinos over UFC has beens. Sure Snyder is probably a better wrestler that Konrad and Mocco, but they would undoubtedly handle him in an MMA fight if they fought tomorrow. These two train full time at MMA academies. Mocco is at one of the top academies in the country American Top Team. Plenty of amazing wrestlers tried their hand at the UFC without much MMA training and got wrecked. Elite wrestlers don't always become elite MMA fighters. See Kevin Jackson, Tounsend Saunders etc. These guys have a combined 0-4 record in the UFC. As much as he was hyped, Brock Lesner went 5-3 in the UFC and got knocked out by two current top 10 UFC fighters, Cain Velasquez (AA AZ St) and Allistair Overheem.
He's got a couple of years before he sees success at the UFC level.
News Flash: Wrestling is also a good way to get a concussion and long-term brain damage.
Definitely a tougher time back then. There weren't many rules or much weight restrictions if anyIncorrect. Kevin Jackson won the UFC 14 tournament to become middleweight champion, submitting both of his opponents. It was a different time then, but I still consider UFC champions to be elite..
There's a wrestler right now at Hofstra wearing a specific head gear due to concussions, a certain amount and his career will be over. I also had a teammate in college with the same issue There's some equivalencyGive me a break. There's no equivalency in the respective risks.
What it means is he has a good grasp of the kind of money some of those cats make. I think they're all nuts, but whatever floats their boat is fine by me.Does this mean it just isn't exciting for him (or anyone else for that matter) to wrestle in front of 4,387 fans on average at tOSU?
There's a wrestler right now at Hofstra wearing a specific head gear due to concussions, a certain amount and his career will be over. I also had a teammate in college with the same issue There's some equivalency
And they also occur with people who don't have an athletic bone in their entire body. Or bike riders and Soccer players, hardly the warrior types.What I am saying is I think concussions are much more frequent in mixed martial arts, not that they don't occur from time to time in collegiate wrestling.
And they also occur with people who don't have an athletic bone in their entire body. Or bike riders and Soccer players, hardly the warrior types.
Don't want to risk a concussion? Stay home and wrap yourself in bubble wrap and watch life pass you by as you brag about not being concussed and how brilliant you are because of it (not speaking to you specifically, a generalization).
You can then take your newfound mental health and become a College Professor and let us all know about the inherent dangers of "mean" looking mascots..........
Boom! I've been told off! Good points fellas.
No offense intended, just really tired of all the "concussion" B.S. and the sniveling about how "dangerous" sports are, football specifically.Boom! I've been told off! Good points fellas.
A whole lot of stupid in this thread. Striking skills are a natural thing and can easily be improved. Jiu Jitsu is way easy to pick up, and at his weight it probably won't be an issue. Mocco is a fat turd and Brock is retarded...apples to oranges.
He should definitely quit college wrestling and go mma full time.
I'm guessing all this knowledge comes from your 12 year old boys that have had black belts for 6 years. There is nothing "natural" about high level striking. And many months are typically spent with high level wrestlers just getting them comfortable working from guard where they've spent their entire career avoiding position. Colby Covington took several years to get to where he's at in the UFC. There will be no competitive fights against top 10 UFC guys at any weight for Snyder for a few years. But hey, your avoidance of reality coupled with your trolling skills are still spot on.
I'll agree that traditional boxing doesn't exist much, but by definition, high level striking does. People with high percentages in punches/kicks landed demonstrate that. Snyder has great work ethic. If he decides MMA is what he wants, and he can stay motivated with success at levels much lower than he's used to, he'll probably do very well. This notion that he can scrap world class wrestling career and just show up and have success in the UFC is non sense.High level striking doesn't exist in mma.
High level striking doesn't exist in mma.
May well be one of the dumbest post ever.High level striking doesn't exist in mma.