It seems like they don't run a screen to rb anymore either. They run one yesterday and get a TD. I also wish they would utilize a fullback more often as well.
So how did they break Cade?
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I love that you claim to attempting to be objective (or, non-emotional, at the very least ... maybe I can grant you that).
The problem is that you're misapplying data to draw inferences.
It's almost like you don't recognize that I'm a quant.
How is it that you're misapplying data? Well ... you're looking at a guy who was still rehabbing during the spring ... so he didn't do much more than work on 7-7 stuff during that period.
Then, when he'd see some of the most formative experience with our O during fall camp ... he missing a substantial portion of those practices with his tweaked muscle from the open scrimmage.
Thus, you're trying to claim that Iowa "broke" him ... when you're talking about a QB who last saw saw action nearly a year ago. Then, on top of that rust ... you're looking at a guy who has missed a lot of important time drilling in the O so that it could efffectively become more automatic for him.
If you wanted to have a better "control" on your data ... in order to allow for more of an apples-to-apples comparison ... it would have required him to have been healthy and been a full-go for each of the camps. That way we'd be able to draw better comparisons to his performance at Michigan vs Iowa.
Of course, as others have indicated ... there still is the issue of how things work with the different talent-level surrounding him at Iowa vs Michigan.
“They” broke Cade when Harbaugh opened the quarterback competition in the spring after he led them to the playoffs the fall before. Add in a couple injuries that seem more on the serious side and we have what we have. He was a broken piece when he arrived at Iowa, trying to rebuild what he once was or what he believes he can become. If he was freshman playoff Cade, he’d still be starting at Michigan. It’s going to take time and the injury slowed everything down even more. His attitude and work ethic is exactly what this team needs, and with time, I think the physical and mental will get on track and he will be a special player. It might not happen as fast as we’d like, and might not even happen until next year but I believe he’ll get there.
Iowa has what you may want to call a QB whisperer, Jon Budmayr, He was the Offensive Coordinator at Colorado St for one year, Before that at Wisconsin with QB responsibilities. Cades younger brother was recruited by Colorado St, so the familly was familiar with Jon and I believe that was a key to Cade transferring to Iowa. Remember Jon was being paid by Col. St. for the first year at Iowa as a Analyst or something similar two years ago. Last year he was on the staff in a non coaching position and now is a Specialist to the head coach, not sure of the title.Maybe Iowa can find a QB Whisperer somewhere, much like Tom Booker broke Pilgrim....
Thought I'd repost this from last year after Cade's 3rd game. What's changed since last year besides the OC and perhaps his health? There were a lot of folks still arguing that Cade was the man. I'm not seeing a lot of that after Saturday's performance. Are there any of you left who still believe that Cade is the guy to resurrect this offense?
I wasn’t a fan when they brought him in, wasn’t a fan last year and still am not a fan this year. The guy wasn’t that great at Michigan with way more talent and better health. Why the heck would people thought he was going to be something here still blows my mind.
No. Cade has a very noticeable hitch in his giddy-up.
Why we are playing a permanently-less-than-100% player at our greatest position of need is beyond me. Year. After Year. After Year, we have the same problems.
I can’t get behind Kirk anymore.
Great original post dating back to 2023. I'm not sure what's happened the last 4-5 years as we've always been a conservative, don't take a lot of chances offense but damn Cade is broke, not only physically but also mentally. He's locked onto 1 guy in the route and that's it. If it's not there he's either still going to throw it, like the huge INT at the beginning of the 2nd half, or just throw it where nobody can catch it. He had plenty of time to throw on Saturday. He doesn't step into throws, and he's wildly inconsistent. What I find interesting is over the years we have had some don't give a F Quarterbacks. Tate, Stanzi, and Beathard. All kind of gunslingers honestly. Now I watch a game and at least on TV nobody seems open, the QB's look scared and afraid to make a mistake. It's terrible.
It's a over a year later. Is he still improving? Is he in game shape yet? Just wondering what everyone else is seeing. 🙄
