So just another tidbit in SS payments…

[bagdropper]

Whether it's $9 or $150 I can assure you the project would go over budget and cost three times the estimate. That's not just the government, that's almost every major IT project regardless of sector.

I worked in telecom as recently as mid 2010's - a HUGE company. We dealt with a myriad of different billing and automation systems...something like 70 different systems. COBOL and CICS on the automation side of things (which would feed various billing systems) were still VERY much in use.

I once asked why and they said the cost to migrate away from it - and actually being able to build something "better" - simply wasn't possible at that time from a cost standpoint.

It worked, so why change it?



They may have finally switched away from them by now, but my guess would be to actually do so probably caused a lot of headaches (and cost) to do so.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Why not pay down the debt instead of kickbacks? Wasn't this all about the debt to begin with?

The debt is gone! They are firing 10% of the federal work force (except for the ones they discover serve a vital function who they scramble trying to hire back). That's a whopping 10% of less than 2% of the federal budget. Meanwhile, Eloon continues to get his billions in subsidies.

 

[McLovin32]

My point is someone is getting that money ! So if a 130 year old isn’t , who the Fvck is getting it!?!?

One of the most entertaining things about this message board is when someone posts something, that something gets proven to be incorrect/false, and then the person that posted it doubles down on the stupidity.

 

[Joes Place]

my brother sent me this.
I want a damn refund!


Update: sorry I didn’t see this information passed on in another thread. But I’m still pissed off
!!😡

Ah....the propaganda spins around the world 5 times, before the truth can even get one slipper on...

 

[Tenacious E]

So this is a classic example of not being able to have a civil conversation about a topic without someone chiming in with this crap… well done. On ignore u go sir.,

Not to get in the middle of a food fight, but didn't you call him an idiot, which then precipitated him telling you to go a board for morons? You seem like mutual combatants.

 

[millah_22]

So are tens of millions of people over 100 years old receiving benefits?​

No.

Part of the confusion comes from Social Security’s software system based on the COBOL programming language, which has a lack of date type. This means that some entries with missing or incomplete birthdates will default to a reference point of more than 150 years ago. The news organization WIRED first reported on the use of COBOL programming language at the Social Security Administration.

Additionally, a series of reports from the Social Security Administration’s inspector general in March 2023 and July 2024 state that the agency has not established a new system to properly annotate death information in its database, which included roughly 18.9 million Social Security numbers of people born in 1920 or earlier but were not marked as deceased. This does not mean, however, that these individuals were receiving benefits.

The agency decided not to update the database because of the cost to do so, which would run upward of $9 million.

A July 2023 Social Security OIG report states that “almost none of the numberholders discussed in the report currently receive SSA payments.” And, as of September 2015, the agency automatically stops payments to people who are older than 115 years old.

Tens of millions of dead people aren't getting Social Security checks, despite Trump and Musk claims

The Trump administration is falsely claiming that tens of millions of dead people over 100 years old are receiving improper Social Security payments.

apnews.com

Additionally, only 68 million people receive Social Security payments. If 10s of millions (plural, so at least 20 million) of dead people were receiving SS, that would be nearly 30% of all recipients being dead.

Trump's a fkin idiot asshole.

 

[gohawks50]

I had her cremated. Ordered a stone and interred her ashes next to my dad. Crematorium, but no funeral home or actual funeral.

Okay, I though the crematorium did the same type legal notifications that funeral homes do. Good to know.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Musk will get @LuteHawk ‘s SS card when they pry it out of his cold, dead hands, when he’s 180…

 

[millah_22]

Musk will get @LuteHawk ‘s SS card when they pry it out of his cold, dead hands, when he’s 180…

So 15 years ago?

 

[bcherod]

I don’t care who’s in office but if this sh!t is going on we should all be demanding refunds.

It is t going on.

Dead people and their SS are in the SS Death records index. It’s used extensively for genealogical purposes. No one is getting the money.

Once a person dies, so does their SS. Are there scammers that got into the system? Yes, but this is nothing new. It’s a talking point for DOGE.

And, another thing, if you think that’s billions of dollars , you’d be dumb and crazy.

One of my grandmothers that died at 100, in 1988, was getting a whopping $150/ month.

 

[joelbc1]

My point is someone is getting that money ! So if a 130 year old isn’t , who the Fvck is getting it!?!?

I hate to confess, but everyone J reach into my front pockets, I fish out a fresh SS check…been that way for years.
I once told a friend that I hoped to get to a point in my life that U always had a dollar bill on me…..Well, good things happen to those who wait!

 

[goldmom]

I had her cremated. Ordered a stone and interred her ashes next to my dad. Crematorium, but no funeral home or actual funeral.

I think you may have also needed the Certificate of Death?

 

[goldmom]

It is t going on.

Dead people and their SS are in the SS Death records index. It’s used extensively for genealogical purposes. No one is getting the money.

Once a person dies, so does their SS. Are there scammers that got into the system? Yes, but this is nothing new. It’s a talking point for DOGE.

And, another thing, if you think that’s billions of dollars , you’d be dumb and crazy.

One of my grandmothers that died at 100, in 1988, was getting a whopping $150/ month.

Back almost 40 years ago a lot of people in her age group were getting similar amounts. About $400 in today’s dollars but the minimum someone can receive has increased as well.

 

[bcherod]

Back almost 40 years ago a lot of people in her age group were getting similar amounts. About $400 in today’s dollars but the minimum someone can receive has increased as well.

It’s pretty low. A friend of mine that is 61 is going to get around $800/month when he stops working.

 

[GES4]

My point is someone is getting that money ! So if a 130 year old isn’t , who the Fvck is getting it!?!?

At first I thought you were just stupid. But there is also some sort of mental impairment here.

 

[GES4]

Okay, I though the crematorium did the same type legal notifications that funeral homes do. Good to know.

They do. They provide the death certificate and notify SS. Ignore the troll.

 

[GES4]

It is t going on.

Dead people and their SS are in the SS Death records index. It’s used extensively for genealogical purposes. No one is getting the money.

Once a person dies, so does their SS. Are there scammers that got into the system? Yes, but this is nothing new. It’s a talking point for DOGE.

And, another thing, if you think that’s billions of dollars , you’d be dumb and crazy.

One of my grandmothers that died at 100, in 1988, was getting a whopping $150/ month.

How much does she get now?

 

[hawksurprize]

my brother sent me this.
I want a damn refund!


Update: sorry I didn’t see this information passed on in another thread. But I’m still pissed off
!!😡

Wow, way to self own. You just called yourself out as a social media beta who believes any bit of crap that he reads LOL

 

[the24fan]

Wow, way to self own. You just called yourself out as a social media beta who believes any bit of crap that he reads LOL

not really. Usually Im very cautious in believing anything that's on social media. This one just hit me wrong for some reason.
I freely admit should have thought a bit before posting.

 

[bcherod]

How much does she get now?

Zero. It goes through the channels that you mentioned. This is all fake news that dead people’s checks are going somewhere.

But the idiots who don’t understand the records think it’s going somewhere.

 

[Hans81]

Is your brother special needs? If that’s the case, who is receiving all this money? How do they cash these checks or get them deposited?

I assume relatives of the deceased get the funds? 🤔

 

[uihawk82]

I don’t care who’s in office but if this sh!t is going on we should all be demanding refunds.

This stuff has been repeately debunked. Musk got caught in his lies at the oval office meeting. Do you live in silo or bat shit crazy news? Do ever try to verify stuff on your own?

This was debunked about a week ago. And Musk jumped the gun without even knowing the codes and numbers that SS people have in their system.

Musk is a liar, and he doesnt know anything about these systems

 

[srams21]

COBOL was old 20 years ago

That doesn't mean it's necessarily bad or HAS to be updated. It's actually still widely used as the backbone of many financial systems. And there are younger folks who work in this area.

It's amazing how many people not in software development automatically assume it's bad.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

That doesn't mean it's necessarily bad or HAS to be updated. It's actually still widely used as the backbone of many financial systems. And there are younger folks who work in this area.

It's amazing how many people not in software development automatically assume it's bad.

Fair enough

 

[goldmom]

It’s pretty low. A friend of mine that is 61 is going to get around $800/month when he stops working.

Is he minimum wage?

 

[bcherod]

Is he minimum wage?

He was. Now he’s a bit above it. But, he works. Not everyone had the opportunity to go to college.

I used to look down on some of the uneducated, then I realized I was one of the lucky ones. I had the opportunities, and an easy path. Not everyone had that.

I watched a number of coworkers save their money and get a college degree in their 40’s and 50’s.

I admire that.

Now I understand much much better that not everyone had the opportunities I had.

 

[Gimmered]

Why the F are they still using COBOL?

Because Congress will not approve funds to update their computer system.

 

[tumorboy]

Seriously here is the thing, When you see Trump say something or Musk tweet something don’t automatically take it at face value. Wait for actual reviews of what fraud and or waste actually transpired before becoming outraged. It has been proven numerous times that they are being disingenuous and then “oops, We made a mistake”.

For efficiency experts. They’re awfully inefficient.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Why the **** are coding experts such as Musk and his employees claiming they don’t understand COBOL?

Maybe because it’s an ancient programming language from 1959?

First appeared	1959; 66 years ago

COBOL - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Nole-4-Life]

I think you may have also needed the Certificate of Death?

Nope....did it over the phone. Only needed the COD to get her little life insurance payout. Cancelled her SS and her retirement payments with a phone call.

 

[Nole-4-Life]

Okay, I though the crematorium did the same type legal notifications that funeral homes do. Good to know.

If they did they didn't tell me about it. I did it the day after she passed.

 

[NI hawk]

SS isn't free

These are....

Farm subsidies
Tax Breaks for Billionaires
PPP loans - Likely one of the largest ripoffs ever.

Agree PPL loans are the biggest ripoff ever.

 

[franklinman]

Nope....did it over the phone. Only needed the COD to get her little life insurance payout. Cancelled her SS and her retirement payments with a phone call.

Penna, demands you have birth certificate to get a death certificate. The funeral director had the wrong birth date, and had to re issue with a new death certificate. took bout a week to get thing correct.

 

[Nole-4-Life]

Penna, demands you have birth certificate to get a death certificate. The funeral director had the wrong birth date, and had to re issue with a new death certificate. took bout a week to get thing correct.

I got death certs from the crematorium. Didn't have to give a birth certificate.

 

[cohawk]

Maybe because it’s an ancient programming language from 1959?

First appeared	1959; 66 years ago

COBOL - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It was also invented by a woman. Grace Hopper.

What’s your point?

 

[theiacowtipper]

When my mom passed there was no funeral home involved. I called SS and had her check stopped.

I’m sorry about your mother but yes there was, or at least a licensed mortician. In every jurisdiction that I know of the only person who can move a deceased is a medical examiner, a licensed mortician, or an ambulance transporting at the direction of a licensed mortician or medical examiner.

The individual who transported your mother to the crematorium would have been working under the license of a mortician. The mortician should have told SS