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Here is the simple answer:seems to be our designated QB next year. Why?
Love to hear your evaluation. Our program's future in his hands. Comments?
I dunno, in that second half I saw him sitting unhurried in the pocket and lopping it to wide open receivers. Atlanta was rolling with the patented "No Rush No Coverage" defense.I would also add that taking unnecessary deep shots is not always advantageous either, pretty sure I heard a stat that Brady was like 2 for his last 35 pass attempts over 20 yards. Although our fanbase is anti check down, NE is king at check downs. ALso probably not a bad idea to check down to the Wad next year
Completely agree, take what the defense gives you. I was just pointing out that a check down is rarely a bad thing.....especially if we can get a guy like Wadley in the open field. NE doesn't exactly have a "big play" WR that is going to consistently stretch the field and utilize their TE's and RB's better than anybody.....Vandy is a type of WR that thrives in that offense and Fant and Hockenson will also thrive in a similar system. Although I think a guy like Brandon Smith will have the ability to stretch the field which will allow our underneath routes to open up, that is what we lacked last yearI dunno, in that second half I saw him sitting unhurried in the pocket and lopping it to wide open receivers. Atlanta was rolling with the patented "No Rush No Coverage" defense.
I want any QB to find and hit the open guy. Some protection and separation will help that cause. I want playcalling that uses the whole field. Hit short, hit deep, hit outside, hit inside. Scratch where it itches, you might say. NE is king at scratching where it itches.
Maybe post-injury. Late 2014/early 2015 CJ could do it.It was the type of play we rarely saw with CJ. Touch + downfield length "tweener" type pass.
That was a really great pass. Thinking back to Tate, he always seemed to put the correct touch on his throws. Let's hope Stanley has that knack or even half of it.All I needed to know about Stanley was that one pass he threw in an early game, maybe it was NDSU. It was his first play in the game deep into the 3rd quarter after CJ took a bad hit scrambling for a 1st down.
It was a play action left hash where he had to touch pass it to Kittle which went for about 20 or so yards - the throw having to lead Kittle just right, but vertical on the left side where underthrown, it's picked, overthrown it's a badly missed opportunity.
It was the type of play we rarely saw with CJ. Touch + downfield length "tweener" type pass.
It was perfectly thrown. Coming in cold off the bench in a tight game, pressure situation.
CJ seemed to cannonball just about everything he threw, especially quit hitters. If Stanley has touch + arm strength + learns how to read defenses and make good decisions...we're going to be just fine.
I don't know. Beathard definitely looked like an NFL QB last year. Always seemed to come up with a clutch throw or run on third down. This year on the other hand....the regression has been painful to watch.I quit reading after this.
I don't know. Beathard definitely looked like an NFL QB last year. Always seemed to come up with a clutch throw or run on third down. This year on the other hand....the regression has been painful to watch.
Either way, I'd like to see some real competition there.It's possible that there are enough tweeks to the offense that Tyler wins the job. With a new QB coach he might see things differently. I fully expect Nate to be the guy, but you never know.
I'm sure the decision will be in place before fall camp opens.
Agreed. The competition would only be good for both of them, and Tyler has earned the chance to throw his hat in the ring.Either way, I'd like to see some real competition there.
Manzel for he is an.
If he doesn't make at QB he can always tryout for baseball .... 90 MPH fast ball.....
Doesn't really matter unless Brian is going to change things up.... He will be a game manager...
(kills the spirit of the kid, that is why everybody says this will be his best year. The more he is in the system the more he will be coached to tone it down.)
When was the last time we had a quarterback and you really said "WoW.... The only time I said "Wow" in the last 10 years was with Vandenberg performance against Pitt.....Threw for 399 yards that day.....
Breathard made me say "wow" numerous times in 2015.
Because he was playing hurt most of the year.... I was impressed that he could still go out and play at a high level, but if you look at his stats they are good, but they don't blow you away.. Best passing game (278 yards) North Texas...
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/cj-beathard-player-game-log?season=2015
Well, Rudock is an NFL QB right now,...soooooo,,,,I don't think CJ has ever looked like an NFL QB at Iowa. Solid to good P5 QB though and winner/tough guy type, yeah. Better than Rudock, sure.
NFL though...meh. This isn't saying he won't get there, I just don't think he looked like one at Iowa.
Oh don't worry, some armchair coach is going to show up and tell you that he's not an NFL QB. Despite the NFL coaches believing he is, you're wrong.Rudock is now a second string NFL QB.
Despite a billion "that guy is NOT an NFL QB" proclamations on Hawkeye boards. Very supportive.
You clearly missed the point of this thread. Your post is simply accurate and reasonable.Here is the simple answer:
He came in as a True Freshman and won the #2 job last year over the other QB on the roster. He won the job even though the coach has traditionally been heavily slanted to upperclassmen and redshirting freshman. That indicates the coaches think there was clear separation on who was the better player in practice.
As far as how good he is, he's a true Soph with limited snaps and an unproved WR corps. Expect some bumps.
A little tidbit of information for you...there is not a college football coach on this planet that is interested in your "wow" meter. Win, win,win,win,and did I say win. Not interested or care how many yards a QB throws for. Take a look around college football and the coaches that are playing into that game are not winning on a consistent basis.If he doesn't make at QB he can always tryout for baseball .... 90 MPH fast ball.....
Doesn't really matter unless Brian is going to change things up.... He will be a game manager...
(kills the spirit of the kid, that is why everybody says this will be his best year. The more he is in the system the more he will be coached to tone it down.)
When was the last time we had a quarterback and you really said "WoW.... The only time I said "Wow" in the last 10 years was with Vandenberg performance against Pitt.....Threw for 399 yards that day.....
Manziel but close enough.I think our incoming true-freshman QB recruit comes in and wins the job. He reminds me a little bit of Peyton Manning, a little bit of Johnny Mansell.
A little tidbit of information for you...there is not a college football coach on this planet that is interested in your "wow" meter. Win, win,win,win,and did I say win. Not interested or care how many yards a QB throws for. Take a look around college football and the coaches that are playing into that game are not winning on a consistent basis.
Think Fant could line up at WR?
It was brutal if you were on Pluto while the game was being played. As far as "pulling" him....that tells me you never played at a high level and definitely will never be a coach. KF showed the loyalty to the kid just as much as the kid showed the program. Dudes like you do not get that but the locker room does and it went a long way. But keep on keeping on and when you look in the mirror in the morning you are still not as smart as any college football coach.Easy tough guy.... I guess the "Wow" meter is not working all that great at IOWA... Your Win , win, win, is not in line with IOWA football... Because we would have pulled CJ in the Florida game..... If you are in Win, win at all costs.... you go with the players that are going to win and pull the players (even if they are the team leaders) when they are hurt. I was there were you, it was brutal???
("First of all, he thought he could go back and play, which he always does. But then secondly, when he was playing, certainly he was limited in what he could do," Ferentz said. "He wasn't going to run, but he wanted to compete. I think we certainly owe it to him. He's had a tremendous career and laid it out there for us game in and game out." ) see link below...
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/iowa-qb-beathard-plays-through-injury-outback-bowl-loss
It was brutal if you were on Pluto while the game was being played. As far as "pulling" him....that tells me you never played at a high level and definitely will never be a coach. KF showed the loyalty to the kid just as much as the kid showed the program. Dudes like you do not get that but the locker room does and it went a long way. But keep on keeping on and when you look in the mirror in the morning you are still not as smart as any college football coach.
Iowa QBs haven't been coached to be game managers. However, it certainly is true that they MUST manage the game as well. Given how porous our D was against the run last year ... and given how inconsistent our WRs were last year ... it makes sense that even Beathard would be able to decide for himself that ball-security would be critical for us to pull out victories.If he doesn't make at QB he can always tryout for baseball .... 90 MPH fast ball.....
Doesn't really matter unless Brian is going to change things up.... He will be a game manager...
(kills the spirit of the kid, that is why everybody says this will be his best year. The more he is in the system the more he will be coached to tone it down.)
When was the last time we had a quarterback and you really said "WoW.... The only time I said "Wow" in the last 10 years was with Vandenberg performance against Pitt.....Threw for 399 yards that day.....
Love him or hate him ... Greg Davis had a great track-record as it relates to developing QBs. Among a single group of QBs ... he helped guide/shape Sokol, Rudock, and Beathard. Each ended up being pretty successful starting QBs. And that was just his track record at Iowa. Obviously if you look at the likes of Colt McCoy and Vince Young ... he was proven with other guys too.Having a dedicated QB coach should prove to be a factor. Not on topic but throwing it out there.